Troubles at Fukushima. From BAD to WORSE

This could not be avoided. We are storing our radioactive water. Everyone needs to stop talking about boiling seas and third arms. Think. You have a biological backround? How do microbes react to radiation in water? How does that effect the clean up effort? You have a chemical backround? Can we just put Viagra in it and it won't be radioactive in four hours? No, then spend more time working on chemicals that could. You have a physics backround? Good, stare at a periodic table until you can think of how to stop or isolate radioactive decay in water solutions. You smoke pot? These people need to be helped, get them some pot. Let's come together as a scientific commuinity and show politicians how conflicts are resolved.
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Viagra??

Jesus, I'm not swimming in a sea where there are Dolphins with rampant erections!

Then again, I'd be f****d either way...

Sorry, thread needed some humour as it was morbid..

You know, I was just thinking to myself, "I don't buy that simulation, it looks like the radiation stays in the Pacific Ocean's Northern Hemisphere..... wouldn't it move?"

Lo and behold, I read the video's description...

The simulations do not include any data assimilation, and thus, do not account for the actual state of the local ocean currents during the release of highly contaminated water from the damaged plants in March--April 2011.

It does go on to say...

An ensemble differing in initial current distributions illustrates their importance for the tracer patterns evolving during the first months, but suggests a minor relevance for the large-scale tracer distributions after 2--3 years.

Pretty sure the currents would be the 'be all and end all' of how the radiation would spread... wouldn't it?

This image is of the ocean's 'conveyor belts'


I'm by no means saying that I am right and the simulation is wrong, I'm merely pointing out that it isn't an entirely accurate depiction of how the radiation would spread.

Kai

fukushima storing the water is like pumping water from a sinking ship and storing it on the same ship!

Surround the entire plant with a huge concrete barrier, fill it with treated water, submergng the entire thing.
Or fill it with concrete mixed with lead till its completely covered, or a mixture or "layer" of materials and filters
what materials resist and filter radiation?
maybe we need to invent a "sand" that is highly resistant to heat or radiation
we need answers, nobody is going to do it for us.

would this work build a montain on top of it to contain radiation yes it would be very expensive but really shouldn't that work. something on the order of 30 million metric tonnes i would think should be able to block radiation

Originally posted by proteus33
would this work build a mountain on top of it to contain radiation yes it would be very expensive but really shouldn't that work. something on the order of 30 million metric tonnes i would think should be able to block radiation

ho do u build the mountain underneath?

The stuff is melting into the ground and u cant get near it to stop it...., all the people saying to just put a cover over it.. it need to be encased completely.. imposs to do

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Surely a highly liquefied concrete/lead mix would encase it, throwing in steel as they fill.

Originally posted by PtolemyII
First symptoms of radiation poisoning are hair loss and bleeding gums

Oh oh. I guess I have had radiation poisoning for years. I must not be eating the radiation though, my gums don't bleed.

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or this...

Originally posted by Mclaneinc
Viagra??

Jesus, I'm not swimming in a sea where there are Dolphins with rampant erections!

Then again, I'd be f****d either way...

Sorry, thread needed some humour as it was morbid..

'Ohh look its a whale giving birth, ohh wait that's a male. Called Moby'

I have an American friend who lives in Japan (she's been there for 5 years). She recently came to the states, once last summer and this past August. Both times I inquired about Fukushima and both times she said that Japan isn't making a big deal about it and that outside countries like US are using the situation for sensational news and fear mongering-that the media is making it to be a bigger deal than it is. (I feel the opposite is true). She said she's "not worried about it"!. I thought this was interesting. I'm wondering how this topic is treated in Japanese media. Does anyone have any input from Japan/ friends in Japan?

Well we could have done it without destroying ourselves, but there wasn't enough profit in it.

Originally posted by MariaLida
New Radiation Readings At Fukushima Strong Enough To Kill A Human In FOUR HOURS!

High radiation readings at Fukushima tanks
6:08am September 1, 2013

The operator of Japan's stricken Fukushima nuclear power plant says it has found new radiation hotspots near tanks storing toxic water, with one reading peaking at 1,800 millisieverts per hour - a potentially lethal dose.

news.ninemsn.com.au...

According to Dr. Brainwash, if you smile and are happy, the radiation can't harm you.

www.youtube.com...

Bingo !!!

Originally posted by doobydoll
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I just hope that the underground bunkers of those that have created this also fail and they get what we do...They truly deserve it, the idea that they could survive and pick up where they left off disgusts me..

I hope they do survive.

I'd really like to see them trying to survive after they emerge from their bunkers - nobody left on the planet to tax except each other, nobody left to put to work except each other, nobody left to parasite off of except each other, and nobody left to fight with except each other.

All the things they like to do to us today, they can enjoy doing to each other when they've killed us all off.

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This is hair loss in giant clumps.Like horror movie effect hair loss.
And the gum bleeding is profound.

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Although Japan has been burying their head in the sand a little. Or at the very least playing it down. However I feel from day 1 it is something the whole world should of been more involved in.

I understand there are certain rules. regulations and policies. But now 2.5years down the track foreign nations are beginning to raise an eyebrow. Seems silly. Although in all reports of the initial video people were hesitant or not of agreement on this being the worlds biggest nuclear disaster. It is slowly coming into debate and if that is even being asked at this point, surely others should of jumped in earlier.

Worse still did not come but it will, it's inevitable because of many many reasons : (

Tanaka also warned that the toxic water is not the only big challenge at the site -- there's also the decommissioning of the reactors, which is likely to take 30 to 40 years and cost more of $100 bn ..

"We have a long road ahead of us," he said.

100,000,000,000 $

This steel tanks looks like vulnerable to very high radioactive water ..

Just imagine numbers of this storage tanks of high radioactive water with every next day or decades

About 400 tons of groundwater flow into the site each day, and TEPCO also pumps large amounts of water through the buildings to keep the crippled reactors cool.

Also very vulnerable spent fuel pools of 11,138 spent fuel rods, the No. 4 pool is about 100 feet above ground and is already damaged ..

They also need to be cooled ..

Fukushima radiation levels '18 times higher' than thought

www.bbc.co.uk...

At 33:00 in

Nathaniel White-Joyal, Host: It’s clear that the west coast of the United States will be affected by the radiation from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant.

Akio Matsumura, Diplomat: Let me clarify. We are facing global disaster — catastrophe — occurring. From that perspective, over 40 years, 50 years, or maybe 100 years. We cannot escape from this fact. For that we have to keep in mind. […] This radioactive material, or contaminated water, any cases, reach out to your west coast as well. If you are counting on Japan, I can assure you now they do not take serious action.

Fukushima should be the focus of an International Geophysical Year.

en.wikipedia.org...

It should be an opportunity for the entire world to study, in a focused, coordinated way, the complete spectrum of issues connected to radioactivity. Can you imagine the time when primitive people used fire but didn't know how to make it or stop it, the time when, if the fire got out of control, everyone just ran away?

That approximates our situation with radioactivity.

We should put the Middle East and gay rights and NSA surveillance on the back burner for a concentrated year and do something about the situation at Fukushima.

In that sense Fukushima presents an opportunity for humanity.

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I agree 100%, but it seems that our world leaders and corporate interests seem starting wars in other regions is much more important.

Hey the ship is on fire, so let's go look for another ship to attack.

The madness and lack of logic is over-whelming in our faces.

Our current MO and way of life needs to be change by a completely new mindset and almost all the old ways discarded because if we don't this ship is going to sink.

It's not if, it's when.