British troops with chemical warfare kits head to Syrian doorstep

reply to post by neo96


mature response!

Saddam had no weapons left after the UN destroyed them.
This is why we found none.
This is why they used none.
This is why even George W himself came out and said they didn't have any.
To this date none have been found or used.. it was all bunk, crap! Everyone fell for it in 2002, I believed them.

We were all fooled..

Syria doesn't need them, Syria has their own and they do have a shelf life. its been 10 and a half years since we went into Iraq.. Sorry to say Neo, but Iraq's mythical weapons of mass destruction are BS!

Also,
You really think back in the early 70's and 80's that Germany, Italy and all those countries would have given Iraq weapons if it wasn't for the US saying so? I know it wasn't 100% of the US giving and giving, but the US played a big part.

Cheers for the political dishonesty!

reply to post by Agit8dChop


Your problem is your willingness to continue and play the blame game, without naming the other countries that have even more of a part in it.

Why is that ?

Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by Agit8dChop

 

Your problem is your willingness to continue and play the blame game, with out naming the other countries that have even more of a part in it.

Why is that ?

edit on 22-8-2013 by sonnny1 because: (no reason given)

Guess that is what 'mature' response's must mean.

reply to post by sonnny1


in what, Saddam's chemical weapons of the 80's?

Everyone's got some kinda of responsibility. Even though in the back-end the CIA drove a lot of it, yes everyone does has some responsibility.

BUT, how many countries stabbed them in the back then invaded and destroyed them for having them?
how many of those countries chant about freedom and democracy while bombing villages and governments from the air?

Its not about blame, this started about chemical weapons being trucked to Syria and them being used against civilians which is a load of CRAP

Sarin degrades after a period of several weeks to several months. The shelf life can be shortened by impurities in precursor materials. According to the CIA, some Iraqi sarin had a shelf life of only a few weeks, owing mostly to impure precursors.[12]

wiki

Saddam's chemicals weapons are over a decade old. (If you believe GWBushs WMD lies)
Saddam's chemicals weapons are over 2 decades old. (If you believe the UN didnt destroy them all)


but yes... Lets keep up the Iraq WMD lies and tell people Syria's chemical weapon strike was Saddams weapons that were shipped over the border 11years ago.

looks like it may very well be, uninhabitable,,"The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap."
So undeniable.

Originally posted by Agit8dChop

Everyone's got some kinda of responsibility. Even though in the back-end the CIA drove a lot of it, yes everyone does has some responsibility.

Too rich...... Had to get a US jab in, even as you claim everyone has a responsibility.



I guess Iran's and Russian arms, technology have no play in the War in Syria.

Many of those weapons are used to kill. I'm tired of people like you who claim "shock and horror" at atrocities committed, but at the same time conveniently turn your back on the other parties who are adding to the misery.

Because that is what you are doing...........

There are other reports that Syria has benefited from sales and technology transfers from Iran.

And:

The same reports did not i ndicate that a contract had been signed, but that the draft agreements would lead Iranian scientists from the Iranian Defense Industries Organization to assist Syria in establishing the infrastructure and location of the new chemical facilities. It will al so supply Syria with reactors, pipes, condensers, heat exchangers, and storage and feed tanks as well as chemical detection equipment for airborne agents. Then Iran will assist in producing and piloting the first four or five CW facilities throughout Syria , producing precursors for VX and sarin nerve agents and mustard blister agents.

csis.org...

Iran is responsible for Assad's wmd's.

Hmmm

reply to post by sonnny1


sooo... your saying all those countries that gave weapons and munitions to Iraq during and prior to the Iran-Iraq war had no influence from the CIA?

I guess Iran's and Russian arms, technology have no play in the War in Syria.

no no no, i haven't said anything. Neo and I were talking about Iraq's weapons right?

I am disgusted as everyone else is by the use of these weapons in Syria and I surely hope we find who did it and how they got the weapons.

But lets not for a second pretend the chemicals used were Iraqi of nature, do we agree on that?
Also, why would they need Russian chemical weapons?
Assad has one of the largest stock piles, the rebels have taken various Assad bases. So both parties probably have these munitions. They could be US or Russian technology that made them, who the hell knows.

all due respect i think your getting confused between this BS being raised about Iraq wmds and Assads.

Iraq's wmds were from the US and its allies (under US influence)
Syria's wmds were Syria's, they made no secret of their production capabilities.

reply to post by Agit8dChop


No.

I'm saying if you are going to be so hard on the United States, you better damn well be hard on ALL the players in the game.

Get it?

Its hypocritical at best......

Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by Agit8dChop

 

No.
I'm saying if you are going to be so hard on the United States, you better damn well be hard on ALL the players in the game.
Get it?
Its hypocritical at best......

Damn right I'm hard on the US.

It wasn't 'the others' that invaded Iraq was it?

I'm just as critical of Israel too,

I've stated many times in this board I don't think the US is the one doing this crap in Syria, I still don't, I don't think they want anything to do with it and are being dragged in..

get it ?

I am not blaming the US for anything in Syria, I do however blame the US for everything in Iraq.

big difference!

reply to post by Agit8dChop


How about blaming Saddams boys, for beating the feet, of the Olympic Soccer Team,,for losing,,too the point of crippling the entire team, and they stood there and took it,, why? ,cause they knew if they didnt there wives, fathers, girlfriends, brothers, sisters,, would die worse,,,
how about a little blame in there direction?

Originally posted by BobAthome
reply to post by Agit8dChop

 

How about blaming Saddams boys, for beating the feet, of the Olympic Soccer Team,,for losing,,too the point of crippling the entire team, and they stood there and took it,, why? ,cause they knew if they didnt there wives, fathers, girlfriends, brothers, sisters,, would die worse,,,
how about a little blame in there direction?

really?

no doubt you'll get a star for that too from sonny and neo!
this place is like a school yard..

you need me to say Saddam was a bad mofo cause he beat his soccer team? is there really any question of that?
Do I need to mention everyone that's done something bad to justify saying something bad about the USAs conduct for liberty?

How about Mugabe and Kim Ill while I'm at it... lets go back further and have a shot at Hitler..

Just because someone else is a bad mofo, doesn't mean someone being critical of the US needs to acknowledge them all.

Yes, there are bad people out there, but the US is meant to be the 'beacon' for freedom and liberty. the USA is meant to be the good guy on the block, but after the illegal invasion and occupation of IRAQ on lies and crooks for corporate greed you'll perhaps forgive me if I say the US aint so peachy.

Look the point I was trying to make

1. Iraq had no WMD's in 2003
2. Iraq's WMDs didnt go to syria (he didnt have any)
3. This chemical attack in Syria was not Iraqi WMD's
4. Iraq was supplied technology and chemicals by the USA (yes sonny and other countries)
5. Sarin has a short shelf life so It couldnt be those mythical Iraqi wmd's



cheers for the debate im off to lunch in the real world!

Originally posted by Agit8dChop

Damn right I'm hard on the US.

So am I. I just dont sound like an Iranian intelligence officer when I do.

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
It wasn't 'the others' that invaded Iraq was it?

Iranians had no problem giving their "expertise" on how to kill US troops, or to kill other Muslims.....in the Iraq wars...... But lets not hold them to any of the senseless murders and atrocities. Evil 'Merika.......The Great Satan.

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
I'm just as critical of Israel too,

No way! Never would have guessed?

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
I've stated many times in this board I don't think the US is the one doing this crap in Syria, I still don't, I don't think they want anything to do with it and are being dragged in..

I'm sure that will change. Sleep on it.......

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
I am not blaming the US for anything in Syria, I do however blame the US for everything in Iraq.

big difference!

I dont. I blame a bunch of Countries. And there's the difference. You blame the US for EVERYTHING that happened there.

reply to post by Agit8dChop


its all about the Patent

and how good your chemists are.
but there are ALWAYS, traceable Flags,, which lead to,, home.

reply to post by EvanB


The question is why these troops are needed in Jordan.
Why 5000 US troops are needed in Jordan for an 'exercise'.

Why this game of smoke and mirrors?

Originally posted by BobAthome
reply to post by Agit8dChop

 

its all about the Patent

and how good your chemists are.
but there are ALWAYS, traceable Flags,, which lead to,, home.

Assad has some good chemists then from Russia, and Iran, and China, and a few other countries.

reply to post by neo96


my opinion of these types of chemists ranks right up there with meth makers.

Originally posted by Agit8dChop

Originally posted by BobAthome
reply to post by Agit8dChop

 

How about blaming Saddams boys, for beating the feet, of the Olympic Soccer Team,,for losing,,too the point of crippling the entire team, and they stood there and took it,, why? ,cause they knew if they didnt there wives, fathers, girlfriends, brothers, sisters,, would die worse,,,
how about a little blame in there direction?

really?

no doubt you'll get a star for that too from sonny and neo!

this place is like a school yard..

you need me to say Saddam was a bad mofo cause he beat his soccer team? is there really any question of that?
Do I need to mention everyone that's done something bad to justify saying something bad about the USAs conduct for liberty?

How about Mugabe and Kim Ill while I'm at it... lets go back further and have a shot at Hitler..

Just because someone else is a bad mofo, doesn't mean someone being critical of the US needs to acknowledge them all.

Yes, there are bad people out there, but the US is meant to be the 'beacon' for freedom and liberty. the USA is meant to be the good guy on the block, but after the illegal invasion and occupation of IRAQ on lies and crooks for corporate greed you'll perhaps forgive me if I say the US aint so peachy.

Look the point I was trying to make

1. Iraq had no WMD's in 2003
2. Iraq's WMDs didnt go to syria (he didnt have any)
3. This chemical attack in Syria was not Iraqi WMD's
4. Iraq was supplied technology and chemicals by the USA (yes sonny and other countries)
5. Sarin has a short shelf life so It couldnt be those mythical Iraqi wmd's

cheers for the debate im off to lunch in the real world!

How do you know Iraq had 'no WMDs' in 2003? Who certified that?

Iraq dispersed its weapons before the invasion, but still a lot was found by US forces.

Iraq had one of the largest chemical weapons program under Saddam.

reply to post by GargIndia


Really?

Are you referring to the half dozen ancient and forgotten about mustard gas mortars found in the bottom of a lake to justify ''but still a lot was found by US forces'' ?

How do you know Iraq had 'no WMDs' in 2003? Who certified that?

whats this certify nonsense?.. none were found, none were used, no production facilities were discovered.. ergo none existed!

www.bbc.co.uk...

Former US President George W Bush still has "a sickening feeling" about the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, US media report.

please.. do point out how you have come into knowledge that these weapons were found ?

reply to post by Agit8dChop


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