XKeyscore: NSA tool collects 'nearly everything a user does on the internet' - With Slides

reply to post by supermarket2012


You make very good observations about what you say and do on a computer. I go back to the Wired article by Bamford from a few years ago. He lays out almost exactly what Snowden says. I posted it on page 1 but will do so again. I encourage anyone interested in this to read it. It is very alarming.

Under construction by contractors with top-secret clearances, the blandly named Utah Data Center is being built for the National Security Agency. A project of immense secrecy, it is the final piece in a complex puzzle assembled over the past decade. Its purpose: to intercept, decipher, analyze, and store vast swaths of the world’s communications as they zap down from satellites and zip through the underground and undersea cables of international, foreign, and domestic networks. The heavily fortified $2 billion center should be up and running in September 2013. Flowing through its servers and routers and stored in near-bottomless databases will be all forms of communication, including the complete contents of private emails, cell phone calls, and Google searches, as well as all sorts of personal data trails—parking receipts, travel itineraries, bookstore purchases, and other digital “pocket litter.” It is, in some measure, the realization of the “total information awareness” program created during the first term of the Bush administration—an effort that was killed by Congress in 2003 after it caused an outcry over its potential for invading Americans’ privacy. But “this is more than just a data center,” says one senior intelligence official who until recently was involved with the program. The mammoth Bluffdale center will have another important and far more secret role that until now has gone unrevealed. It is also critical, he says, for breaking codes. And code-breaking is crucial, because much of the data that the center will handle—financial information, stock transactions, business deals, foreign military and diplomatic secrets, legal documents, confidential personal communications—will be heavily encrypted. According to another top official also involved with the program, the NSA made an enormous breakthrough several years ago in its ability to cryptanalyze, or break, unfathomably complex encryption systems employed by not only governments around the world but also many average computer users in the US. The upshot, according to this official: “Everybody’s a target; everybody with communication is a target.”

www.wired.com...

I applaud what you say about the PC. I think actually the smart phone is more dangerous and reveals more to the NSA or whoever than what we do on a PC. It tracks your every movement. The Govt can track your moves and every contact. It can give away content of your texts etc.. Even when your phone is OFF.

Bamford wrote the book The Shadow Factory about the NSA which I also encourage everyone to read.

www.amazon.com...
Here is a link to the PBS nova show the Spy Factory.


www.pbs.org...

A PBS look at the FISA court.

www.pbs.org..." target="_blank" class="postlink">FISA court

blog.visual.ly...
If anyone is interested I have a blog and have written a ton about the NSA. I have written about Drones... Plan of War with China... Continuality of Govt etc. the NSA is my main subject however.
drakeequation.wordpress.com...

Originally posted by supermarket2012
Just a few comments I want to make:

1) I often hear people , especially on sites like these, say things like, "Well, we already KNEW they were doing this." While that is true that many speculated, and accurately said domestic spying like this was possible and occuring.....this is actual PROOF. This is EVIDENCE, and not just evidence, but an emerging scandal and more or less creating the platform for global discussion on this kind of surveillance.

2) I think now more than ever, with the release of these slides by the Guardian, and new revelations from Snowden regarding not just prism, but now Xkeyscore, it is apparent that Edward Snowden is going to be revealing MUCH MORE than just Prism. Most of wondered why the federal government got its panties in a wad over Snowden....and I think now the picture is becoming clear. I think Prism, and the initial release to the press, was just the beginning phase of Edward Snowden's whistleblowing. I think we are going to see a LOT more revealed. I think his mission to blow the whistle was planned, and well executed....not just a spur of the moment decision. He more than likely was snooping around, and searching for evidence LONG ago. The very letter his father wrote to Obama should give insight into Snowden's mindset. He is a man on mission, and the government knows this. I'm eager to see what else he reveals.

3) As mentioned in #2, I think Prism and Xkeyscore are the tip of the iceberg. What else are we going to find out?

4) This should provoke people, more than EVER before, to stop posting anything online you wouldn't shout out of your window. I've lived by these standards, and I'm going to sit down and re-evaluate my relationship with my PC, and the internet in the coming days and weeks. I encourage everyone else to do the same. Privacy is paramount.

9/11 is Snowden's life insurance.
So don't expect much more info being made public. He would be a fool if he wasted his life insurance in return for what most of us already know. However, if he unexpectedly dies ... then, .... who knows?

The human minds behind NSA and such agencies - are CREEPS.

Seriously; what kind of life, day-in-day-out is it to creep, spy and eavesdrop on anyone you dont know? That is ultimately creepy. Some random guy/girl we dont know, siting in front of their little monitors everyday creeping in on casual, everyday people

Something is messed up with people who agree to do this "for a living". I bet they had poor parenting as a child lol. Even worse is the people who orchastrate such USELESS 'activities'. What do these agencies ultimately achieve by creeping and spying on its own innocent people? NOTHING. Just an ego boost from their large pay check..

The world is a sick place because of the human minds who are behind such agencies and dis-honest acts of human behavior. Sitting in their chairs, spying and breaking anyones privacy "because they can". How many people you pass by on the street or at work, do you think are wasting their life spying on innocent-random people?

NONE. Why? Because its pointless and a waste of life-span to spy on people who are just doing the everyday thing in society.

I regret being born in this era...

Hey CREEPS, READ THIS - *middle finger* - now go tell your boss and have black suited CREEPS show up at my door

Losers.

The above rant was neccesary because I (and milllions and milllions of others) are tired and sickend by these creeps living to only spy on other innocent people.

FOR A PAY CHECK.

Get a life..

I think I speak on behalf of almost everybody reading this.

Thanks for the information OP

They can collect F you.... Great post NASA sure wants us to think we have a free Internet, yea right. Nonetheless i would say COME AND GET THEM ^^.

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Well, I have to say 'that's a lot of Info' for the NSA!

Not really surprised as we already know that these Agencies have and will keep on collecting data on us even when they print in the Media that 'they aren't doing it yet and will seek to gain permission to do so'

Anyone know if a simple IP Blocker can restrict any Spying or are they pointless against this type of Spying Software?

I really think they are Paranoid a bit too much and with the Internet able to reach all around the World, they aim to make the rest of us Paranoid too.

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
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Anyone know if a simple IP Blocker can restrict any Spying or are they pointless against this type of Spying Software?

this

Originally posted by xavi1000

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
reply to post by xavi1000

 

Anyone know if a simple IP Blocker can restrict any Spying or are they pointless against this type of Spying Software?

this

edit on 1-8-2013 by xavi1000 because: (no reason given)

O'Well... back to the drawing board for those Programmers who came up with IP Blockers! I've seen a lot of them advertised on CNET .

Who cares, I'll gladly show them myself what porn sites I visit if they want to know that badly.

I'm starting think the NSA might be leaking this on purpose to try to convince people with the help of the sensationalist media that they are more powerful than they actually are. Even in the event they can spy on everything everyone does it would be impossible to process even the tiniest amount of that data. You would have more chance of winning the lottery than actually getting spied on by them. It's still wrong of course but it's very unlikely the government is actually watching you.

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It is impossible for Google to handle the amount if search requests they have each day as well..that is why both Google and the NSA have algorithms that sift through the data and provide results. I think if anything these leaks are the tip of the iceberg and in reality the NSA is way more intrusive than has been leaked thus far. Bluffdale for example has supercomputers than can perform quadrillions of calculations a second. .

It makes me feel hopeless.
I heard 40 plots prevented but i am not allowed details. They are classified.
I am not told how many were blackmailed.

I feel liberty is in cardiac arrest, scared to death by terrorism.

Pretty crazy stuff.... I would imagine the bad guys are already figuring out how to defeat such a system. I'm sure there are methods/etc to stay anonymous. With such vast/enormous sums of data every day, blending in probably can't be too difficult? I'd be interested in what keywords they look for...

I'm sure a site like this probably has a live feed at HQ of the NSA

I've talked to a some folks about Snowden (well..me and the NSA analyst listening to us) and nobody had even heard of the guy! A lot of people just don't care... pretty sad. The one guy I was telling just changed the subject to his new Vizio LED tv! Oh well...when they install the mandatory toilet cams and #ter seatbelts...maybe it will raise a few eyebrows..

S + F for topic.

Not sure if we should be surprised by this. Monitoring internet is far easier them monitoring phones and cellphones, so this should really be no surprise to anyone.

Voice recognition software does amazing thing with phones, and here you don't even need to transfer from analog to text... everything is there to be collected...

And response from government most likely will be - everyone else is doing it....

I really hate that our own Govt. treats all its citizens like enemies of the state. They monitor us like the FBI watches the Italian Mafia....

The government claims they develop programs like this to prevent terrorist attacks but terrorists attack because of things like this. People say things like "Well as long as they aren't spying on Americans its alright" but its not. Dividing the world into Americans/Europeans etc. is the same as White/Black or Male/Female. Its just another classification to keep us divided and cause us to fight amongst each other. When will people see each other as PEOPLE? Instead of this "As long as it isn't me" mentality we need to realize that if they do it to someone else its only a matter of time until they do it to us. The way I see it there is only one division that matters: the Oppressed vs. the Oppressors. The only way we can be saved now is to be united. We all get on sites like this to talk about injustice and the like but I never see SOLUTIONS only problems. The conversations held here need to start taking place in our communities so we can get in place to do something about this. Government is organized its about time we are too. When we (whether Americans, Mexicans, Europeans, whatever) see a group fighting government, whether its our own or not, we need to do whatever we can to help. Any organization that has "top secret" files and hidden missions cant be good. Truth does not need to be hidden unless the truth is evil. I say this to all that are oppressed, regardless of your age, race, sex, religion whatever, don't fight for your country fight for your people. I intend to do just that because as far as I am concerned anyone treated wrongfully is one my people and they are all over the world. They want a one world government, its time we start treating them like they are and make a stand against them cause the truth is, like Tupac said, "They don't give a F*** about us".

Originally posted by grobi77
Just looked at the presentation.
Do they really have about 25 sites along the coast of Antarctica?

Maybe a mistake, but it caught my eye

page 6:

if I was in a top seat I would hide all my # there.

I have a friend in the USN who works in intelligence and he was telling me (about ~3 years ago) about these EXACT things. He claimed he could get into anyone's facebook, email and into any smart phone with the programs they have access to. Also claimed that one of his final projects for one class was to track a "person" (fake person) including phone calls, texts, bank statements and email.

It is most definitely in the military also.

Originally posted by InverseLookingGlass
Yes we have a totalitarian government in the US. Let's face that right now. They can control elections and the banks and corporations are in symbiosis with the Executive Branch.

The sad part is, I think we lost it in the early 1900's

So Democracy is theater and corporations are in charge of all food and water supplies, health care and they are in charge of making war. See the picture yet?

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Yes, so what do we do about it?

Oh right- either move to France or nothing

reply to post by xavi1000


Use a proxy.
It won't stop them but it will make it harder for them and gov workers are at their core lazy.