Golgotha "Place of the Skull"

Originally posted by vethumanbeing

Remembering who you are at birth is not allowed. You must remember your pasts as you live this life, big difference, you never are given that 'free pass' you start over from scratch everytime you reincarnate. Jesus was given that pass above all others? and that is one reason I think his tale of authenticity Son of god is DENIED as FALSE. Souls dont grow up, they progress in enlightenment, no one that incarnates on this planet is allowed PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF SELF. NEVER EVER. Its against the rules because it provides A POTENCIAL UNFAIR ADVANTAGE.

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Do you believe a person can access the memories of a prior life with regression therapy?

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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by TheOd

 

Right about what exactly? The "spiritual world" is inside of you, it is the flip-side of the physical world and the two are part of the same system and same source. You cannot have one without the other, there is no evidence to the contrary.

I have to admit that MUch like The Od, I am left confused.

When you die (the body's expiration of use; true clinical death) do you understand the spirit to detach then fold into the expired body? Or that it is transported, the spirit that is, to another dimension or plane outside of our own spiritual and physical experience?

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We are reincarnated back into the universe.

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by TheOd

 

Yes I did read it.

So this guy entered the spirit world? Funny that the spirit world looked exactly like this world except with a slight haze isn't it?

You posting the experience of another person in no way proves your point. How can you be so sure what they are saying is true?

What you're showing is confirmation bias, and another poster on these boards who is a devout, no-holds barred Catholic uses this same tactic of posting personal stories to "prove" that the bible is the ineffable, infallible word of god.

I believe your have misinterpreted much of what you have read. Perhaps that is because there is only a snippet of a 400p manuscript.

Borgia meets the test for authenticity or I should say the discarnate Rev. Benson (Catholic Monsignor) does by passing through his medium information that could only be known by those who intimately knew the Monsignor in life. This test is the most common test of spirit-discarnate communication from the afterlife. There are dozens others which Benson met.

The world as described by Msgr. Benson was drastically different than of a slightly hazy material earth. Let me emphasize drastically. Again, you only reviewed a snippet. The Borgia manuscripts are Borgia's, they are free to download from a number of sources. I have the audio files if you prefer. They are not personal to The Od but are in the public domain. I believe you would enjoy reading them.

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by MuMuMu

 

We are reincarnated back into the universe.

When we are through reincarnating, then we are in the same place as we are today? I ask this since you made the comment that the material world of Borgia/Benson is one that matches earth except hazier.

He never read it or he rad it so fast he didn't make any sense of it. Which is like not reading it as far as I can tell. All you're going to get is new Age fluff that doesn't make any sense and is not concrete in any stretch. H doesn't believe in the separation of the ethereal from the physical I guess I don't know I can't make a bit of sense of New Age ramblings.

He can believe in the metaphysical afterlife in an abstract manner. This is contrary to my clinical practice and personal experiences without a doubt but he can believe that is he so chooses

Originally posted by MuMuMu
He can believe in the metaphysical afterlife in an abstract manner. This is contrary to my clinical practice and personal experiences without a doubt but he can believe that is he so chooses

It's not going to make a hoot's difference what you have experienced, what I have experienced or the testimony of thousands of spirits from the afterlife. They are not interested in the truth only in supporting their fantastical, shoot-from-the-hip positions.

It's the flip-side to literalism and fundamental religiosity with the same paranoid zest.

Give up. I did.

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Originally posted by MuMuMu

Originally posted by veteranhumanbeing

Remembering who you are at birth is not allowed. You must remember your pasts as you live this life, big difference, you never are given that 'free pass' you start over from scratch everytime you reincarnate. Jesus was given that pass above all others? and that is one reason I think his tale of authenticity Son of god is DENIED as FALSE. Souls dont grow up, they progress in enlightenment, no one that incarnates on this planet is allowed PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF SELF. NEVER EVER. Its against the rules because it provides A POTENCIAL UNFAIR ADVANTAGE.

MuMuMu
Do you believe a person can access the memories of a prior life with regression therapy

YES regression therapy is valid, but what is the point? to understand the correction of past lives with this life? (Karma). NOT possible if you as a general number have had 200+300 or so (which is the normal understanding of how many YOU WILL EXPERIENCE). Its a neverending story that continues. As I see it is something to recognise as a reality, OH YES, but the notion/glad tidings eventual fruition of/to solving all Karmic pasts in this ONE lifetime (YOU ARE LIVING) is patently absurd. Why didnt you figure it out with the first 30? 50 lives WHO set the standard?

Originally posted by MuMuMu

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by MuMuMu

 

We are reincarnated back into the universe.

When we are through reincarnating, then we are in the same place as we are today? I ask this since you made the comment that the material world of Borgia/Benson is one that matches earth except hazier.

You wont be gross matter, you will not be in 3D, you will be whereever you like. You will imagine yourself into any scenario you wish and be able to change it at will. I hope you are a creative person otherwise you might wind up sitting on a beach cracking coconuts and not know what to do with the contents.

Originally posted by vethumanbeing

YES regression therapy is valid, but what is the point?

I suppose that I could tell you of 40yrs clinical experience with it but the best way for you to get an answer is to find out for yourself.

Originally posted by vethumanbeing

You wont be gross matter, you will not be in 3D, you will be whereever you like. You will imagine yourself into any scenario you wish and be able to change it at will. I hope you are a creative person otherwise you might wind up sitting on a beach cracking coconuts and not know what to do with the contents.

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Let me say that my personal experiences, the multitude of clients which I have regressed, the spirits who have authenticated communications with incarnates, disagree.

We are fortunate to live in a time where the realities of the afterlife are coming forward in vivid detail. Not that they have not in the past but there is, for those that open their minds the slightest, wonderful access to what was once mystery.

There is structure, order and laws to the afterlife. There are too many sources to list that relate to us the finest of the particulars of the afterlife. U2U Mu or ask here on the forum if you want to be pointed a direction which you can determine for yourself the relevance and accuracy of these indisputable facts.

Originally posted by MuMuMu

Originally posted by vethumanbeing

YES regression therapy is valid, but what is the point?

I suppose that I could tell you of 40yrs clinical experience with it but the best way for you to get an answer is to find out for yourself.

Where do you live and what is your REAL name, I will be there or BE squared. YOU must not live behind the iron curtain (PAST 1988) or anywhere (FUTURE) that I will need a passport. UP in Clouds you sAy, I must then need to grow wings immediately.

Originally posted by MuMuMu

Originally posted by vethumanbeing

You wont be gross matter, you will not be in 3D, you will be whereever you like. You will imagine yourself into any scenario you wish and be able to change it at will. I hope you are a creative person otherwise you might wind up sitting on a beach cracking coconuts and not know what to do with the contents.

edit on 6-8-2013 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)

Let me say that my personal experiences, the multitude of clients which I have regressed, the spirits who have authenticated communications with incarnates, disagree.

We are fortunate to live in a time where the realities of the afterlife are coming forward in vivid detail. Not that they have not in the past but there is, for those that open their minds the slightest, wonderful access to what was once mystery.

There is structure, order and laws to the afterlife. There are too many sources to list that relate to us the finest of the particulars of the afterlife. U2U Mu or ask here on the forum if you want to be pointed a direction which you can determine for yourself the relevance and accuracy of these indisputable facts.

Why do you find my observations laughable? Let me say that my personal experiences (without the multitudenous clients) which I have not regressed or authenticated with communications with CARNATES, AGREE. I am fortunate to live (NOT DEAD YET UNFORTUNATELY AS I COULD PROVE AFTERLIFE AS A LIVING BEING EXISTS) in a time where some people may be open to broad thought, Ouiga Board, Scrabble, Bridge, Monopoly. My wonderful access to the dreamscape (my reality is the unreality), Dreams are more real than the physical world. There are/is structure and laws yes to the afterlife because not only is it not MATERIAL but ETHERIAL (way up there in NOT 3d--more like 4th through 9th). I dont need a diaper change as far as relevance and accuracy of indisputable facts, IM IN THE KNOW; and probably a few more rungs further up the ladder than you are, (Jacobs).

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by MuMuMu

 

We are reincarnated back into the universe.

Yup, we go back to paradise and then come back to hell. Its always this scenario:

I forgot where I left my car and need to find it before its towed
My wallet is somewhere in a bar off Madison
My dogs need to be fed and let out
I think I missed something the last 500 times around and can correct it this lifetime (just cant remember what it is)
"Hell is only for people that havent suffered enough here". ibid pg 14 'Midnight Mass' by Paul Bowles (black sparrow press ed.).

Originally posted by vethumanbeing
Let me say that my personal experiences (without the multitudenous clients) which I have not regressed or authenticated with communications with CARNATES, AGREE. I am fortunate to live (NOT DEAD YET UNFORTUNATELY AS I COULD PROVE AFTERLIFE AS A LIVING BEING EXISTS) in a time where some people may be open to broad thought, Ouiga Board, Scrabble, Bridge, Monopoly. My wonderful access to the dreamscape (my reality is the unreality), Dreams are more real than the physical world. There are/is structure and laws yes to the afterlife because not only is it not MATERIAL but ETHERIAL (way up there in NOT 3d--more like 4th through 9th). I dont need a diaper change as far as relevance and accuracy of indisputable facts, IM IN THE KNOW; and probably a few more rungs further up the ladder than you are, (Jacobs).

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Good luck to you!