Online pornography to be blocked by default, PM to announce

Originally posted by alysha.angel


As a parent of teenage girls , i strongly approve of this and believe its needed ..

Then you should move to a fascist state.

It's not my job to give up my rights and freedoms and risk massive government intrusion into the freedom of the net just because you can't be bothered to learn how to restrict your internet access or you have the complete inability to tell your kids NO.

At the very least, this should be an opt-in, not an opt-out! Why should we accept massive and unrestrained controls on the freedom of innocent people just because a parent can't be bothered to do their job?

If you are worried about what you're teenage daughters are doing on line, move the computers out of their rooms, watch them when they are using them, use one of the many filtering systems you can get for nothing, set up blocks on the search engines so video and photo content is filtered, do the same on their phones.

There are a hundred things a parent can do to make sure their kids are safe on line, but far too many are lazy, uneducated, ineffectual, and would rather the big friendly government force the entire country to be your nanny.

I am not a parent, I am not a nanny, I am not your child minder, I am not responsible for your kids and your inability to learn how to keep them safe.

Originally posted by Biigs
I find cheese offensive.


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Dear the government,

Please block all cheese related web sites and images for everyone in the UK and let the cheese sinners opt back if they want.

signed,

Arrogant clueless chump.

no wait ... religion and government offend me ... get the preachers off-line and stop disseminating government propaganda via the web too sarcams (LOL) intended.....

Another danger people wont have thought about is that if you take away someones ability to fantasise, the more unhinged members of society will attempt to make it a reality.

Not that I agree with it, but if someone wants to sit at home and watch violent sex movies, then i'd rather that than them seeking sexual gratification by other, more sinister means.

Briles

Originally posted by Timely
reply to post by beezzer

 

The one that is not too lazy or computer illiterate to utilize readily available filters.

It is up to Parents to take necessary precautions or supervision.

Stave off the Nanny Orwellian push ...

Same here. Our neighborhood is getting smaller, though.

Originally posted by alysha.angel
im sorry but its too assesble to everyone. and kids lie about their ages all of the time.i agree with the prime minister

iv spoken to young men about this subject and to find out that what their expecting is not what their going to get in the bedroom because a lot of women have different views on whats right and wrong in the bedroom .. id like to pat the guy on the back for this ..

This kind of logic is astounding to me.

I'll tell you what, while we're at it, lets ban action movies, horror films, fantasy films... wait, you mean to say kids haven't grown up thinking they can buy a magic wand off eBay and become Harry Potter? Do they somehow know that Hogwarts isn't real!?

Welcome to the notion of FANTASY, versus REALITY.

I'm really not surprised there's so much BS government intrusion going on, there are far too many uneducated imbeciles in the world who will gladly hand over all their rights just because they cannot formulate a logical thought in their empty little heads

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Timely
reply to post by beezzer

 

The one that is not too lazy or computer illiterate to utilize readily available filters.

It is up to Parents to take necessary precautions or supervision.

Stave off the Nanny Orwellian push ...

Same here. Our neighborhood is getting smaller, though.

Sad but true.
Complacency is becoming the norm, govt. is expected to provide ...

Food, shelter, education and now .... moral guidelines for our offspring.

When did parenting become something to fob off to the PTB. ??

Originally posted by Rocker2013

It's not my job to give up my rights and freedoms and risk massive government intrusion into the freedom of the net just because you can't be bothered to learn how to restrict your internet access or you have the complete inability to tell your kids NO.

I am not a parent, I am not a nanny, I am not your child minder, I am not responsible for your kids and your inability to learn how to keep them safe.

The above should be made into a T Shirt IMHO

Originally posted by alfa1

Mission creep.

How the government defines "porn" today is one thing, but when the filter is implimented, then you can be guaranteed that all sorts of interest groups are going to start lobbying for just that little extra thing to be added to the filter.

Exactly.

Wait until you come on the ATS Aliens and UFOs forum and search "cigar shaped objects, orbs and anal probing".

That will trigger the pornometer alert followed by an instant Internet disconnect and Cameron's men in black knocking on the door.

I urge everyone to sign the E- petition against this on the HM Government e petion site.
I think it is against T&C to put a link but it is easy to find.

How is this going to work? I know they can say just block certain ratings and websites to block porn but I could just as easily go on to facebook, join a private group and BAM.... Porn. There are plenty of uncategorized sites out there that have porn on them... I don't believe most torrent sites are labeled as "Adult" either. Block the keywords? Ok, but you end up with kids coming up with stuff to bypass that... Look at IRC and the origins of the word pron....

Every government has been attempting to control the internet over the last few years, with various plans exposed as being open to mission creep. Everything they have been proposing to clamp down on something else, leaves massive holes for them to use to widen restrictions.

This is just another example of that. Within a year of this being implemented, the government will have expanded it to cover all kinds of things, from "hate speech" to "political opinion". They'll be using it to shut down Facebook pages, bloggers, news sites and anything the government can deem to be a "threat" to their complete and utter dominance of the public.

This is vitally important to remember - terrorists, criminals, abusers and other scum of the world do not use openly available forums, search engines and websites. Restricting search engines and ISP's and increasing the monitoring of the free people of a nation will do nothing to prevent these things in the slightest. The ONLY thing these measures will change is government control over free and legal access and dissemination of information.

That is why they are doing these things. It has nothing to do with protecting people, and everything to do with them getting their grubby little corrupt hands on the only free method of information remaining on the planet.

It's no coincidence that we have seen a massive increase in efforts to control the net under government remit since the economic collapse began. They have been watching the revolutions in other countries, selectively choosing what we are allowed to know (censored news when it's our countries, but free and open reporting when it's the middle east), and expanding the monitoring of our own populations in the process. They are TERRIFIED of what will happen when the € collapses, and they know that they have to gain control of all information before that happens.

One word. Interlink.

Welcome to BTN. You brits need to put your foot down now before your are all enslaved.

This should have been done from the start. If folks want free porn then let them have sex the old fashioned way...with their wives/girlfriends/husbands/boyfriends...online porn only leads to a computer virus anyways...

Originally posted by Timely

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Timely
reply to post by beezzer

 

The one that is not too lazy or computer illiterate to utilize readily available filters.

It is up to Parents to take necessary precautions or supervision.

Stave off the Nanny Orwellian push ...

Same here. Our neighborhood is getting smaller, though.

Sad but true.
Complacency is becoming the norm, govt. is expected to provide ...

Food, shelter, education and now .... moral guidelines for our offspring.

When did parenting become something to fob off to the PTB. ??

So.... following the logic of what this is actually about, it's illegal to sell pornographic magazines in the UK to anyone under the age of 18. Do you also blame the government for that?

Personally I'm neither for or against this, but I'm not the one trying to turn it into a Daily Mail headline.

reply to post by shells4u


What about us folks who do not want a partner? been there done that 3 times and It has just left me skint, so I look at the odd boobie once and a while so what eh?

UK is definitely a Nanny State Totalitarianism...

As a man who grew up around a Porn, I think it is vital release mechanism especially for those undergoing puberty. Women have NO IDEA how bad us guys have between the ages of 13-24....... and then if you try and repress those needs to release, it comes out in disgusting ways; see catholic priests

On the other hand, it does give youth this view that women are pieces of meat.

I grew around porn, but when I got my first serious girl friend, I treated her with nothing but respect and we eventually fell in love.......so I didn't treat her like the porns.....

This is a rough one......I think blocking porn will cause sexual deprivation in males which will cause a spike in in sexual assualts/deviations: See third world muslim countries, or the current gang rapes in India

reply to post by uncommitted

Just keep it out of kiddies faces. Simple.

Your point?

Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by shells4u

 

What about us folks who do not want a partner? been there done that 3 times and It has just left me skint, so I look at the odd boobie once and a while so what eh?

Just keep washing that cat mate !

Originally posted by alysha.angel


As a parent of teenage girls , i strongly approve of this and believe its needed ..

Iv heard of young men and women being currupted and sexually twisted due to porn and its not really a need ,

i hope someday the rest of the world does the same thing . its degrading to the actors and its not much better then prostiution

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(visit the link for the full news article)

Conspiracy theories contribute to distrust in authority and are bad for social harmony. In addition, they exacerbate mental illnesses such as schizophrenia. So, they're not really needed.

If you want to access conspiracy theories, you need to opt-in. Once opted in, you will be added to the national register of conspiracy theorists. Sieg heil, comrade.

Originally posted by Timely
reply to post by uncommitted

 

Just keep it out of kiddies faces. Simple.

Your point?

And if you agree or not with the proposed method of execution, that is part of the intention of this - not sure I really understand your point.

Listen as I said, I don't have a strong opinion one way or another, but all some people are going off on here is that this represents some loss of liberty which I fail to see is the case unless of course the internet contract in your house is managed by your other half who would opt out of being able to view porn (or opt in to not be able to, whatever) and you would rather have the option.