Hawaii is Beautiful...let's hope it stays this way, for all of our sakes.

The Hawaiian Islands were formed by volcanic eruptions. This got me thinking about the effects another major occurrence of volcanic activity would have on the populous areas of many different countries. The location obviously places them directly in the middle of the Pacific ocean and any shock waves of major proportions would emanate in every direction.

Especially, if the energy comes from a major volcanic eruption. Not only would Hawaii, disappear as we know it, but look at how many areas could be affected. Hawaii has not had any major volcanic activity in many centuries.

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Volcanism -

Kohala—extinct
Mauna Kea—dormant
Hualālai—active but not currently erupting (dormant)
Mauna Loa—active, partly within Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park
Kīlauea—active: has been erupting continuously since 1983; part of Hawaiʻi Volcanoes National Park

Because Mauna Loa and Kīlauea are active volcanoes, the island of Hawaii is still growing. Between January 1983 and September 2002, lava flows added 543 acres (220 ha) to the island. Lava flowing from Kīlauea has destroyed several towns, including Kapoho in 1960, and Kalapana and Kaimu in 1990. In 1987 lava filled in Queen's Bath, a large, L-shaped, freshwater pool in the Kalapana area.

The fact they have determined that these are in a current status of varied conditions does not diminish the possibilities of one or more of these becoming active or more active at any time.

Before anyone calls this DOOMSDAY porn, this is not my intention. It was just an observation I had. I do not have any predictions or prophesy, just general concern for those that would be affected, should this happen in our lifetime.

Can you imagine the displacement of water if either of the "islands" (technically volcanoes and mountain tops, I think), were to erupt?

They really are beautiful and hope to visit there someday to witness in person.



earthquake.usgs.gov...
M5.3 - 54km SE of Pahala, Hawaii

2013-06-04 20:12:39 UTC-04:00
Location - 18.915°N 155.061°W
Depth - 40.3km




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Hawaii Volcanoes History -

The major inhabited Hawaiian Islands were formed during the past 5 million years by the intermittent outpouring of lava from the floor of the Pacific Ocean. According to the theory of plate tectonics, the island of Hawai'i sits on, and is almost in the middle of, the Pacific Plate, a giant jigsaw piece of the Earth's crust that is moving slowly (about four inches per year) in a northwesterly direction.

The Hawaiian Islands are but mere tops of gigantic mountains rising from the floor of the ocean. The newest of these islands, Hawaii, is relatively young, geologically speaking. The oldest rocks above sea level are less than one million years old.

I know my thread is all over the place. I really could have done a better job with the "flow" (pun intended), I really think my overall point is to instill a desire to enjoy the beauty of anything, we just never know when any particular incident of a natural occurrence can happen, but they have and do and will.

Soul

Just wondering, because I've heard the rumor since a child, but I wonder if anyone could confirm that there's a belief or truth that if one takes a volcanic rock from a Hawaiian sacred site as a souvenir one can be cursed?

I also once heard that the last Hawaiian Kahunas, or indigenous priests, had amazing psychic powers, but that they became extinct, except perhaps for one or two.

Yet today there are all kinds of people that include "Kahuna", or "Kahuna-trained" healers in their descriptions.
Is that for real?

Well, it sure looks like a very beautiful place.
Just to edit, I did see another thread on Hawaii and recent seismic activity, so maybe that explains the purpose here a bit better to myself: www.abovetopsecret.com...

I love hearing about underrepresented places on ATS, and it sure would be a pity if such a stunning place disappeared.

reply to post by soulpowertothendegree


You know what, you are so right...beauty should be enjoyed and appreciated while we have it.

I have just the last couple of years started to appreciate things I enjoy such as the beautiful world around us. Hawaii is a place i've longed to go for quite awhile. But I hope that for more than just my sake but the people of the region, their heritage and traditions will survive on and never face the prospect of a major volcano eruption at least for a long long while.

reply to post by soulpowertothendegree


I lived in Hawaii for 27 years. Watched the Mauna Loa eruption and the many Kilauea flows and dealt with the "vog".

Here's some "daredevil" pictures. Enjoy








More pics here:
www.dailymail.co.uk...

reply to post by halfoldman

Just wondering, because I've heard the rumor since a child, but I wonder if anyone could confirm that there's a belief or truth that if one takes a volcanic rock from a Hawaiian sacred site as a souvenir one can be cursed?

Wasn't that the plot for one of the episodes of the Brady Bunch?

Samuel Clemens made a voyage to Hawaii in 1866. An often quote statement of his:
“the loveliest fleet of islands that lies anchored in any ocean.”

He really liked the place:
“No alien land in all the world has any deep strong charm for me but one, no other land could so longingly and so beseechingly haunt me, sleeping and waking, through half a lifetime, as that one has done. Other things leave me, but it abides; other things change, but it remains the same. For me its balmy airs are always blowing, its summer seas flashing in the sun; the pulsing of its surfbeat is in my ear; I can see its garland crags, its leaping cascades, its plumy palms drowsing by the shore, its remote summits floating like islands above the cloud wrack; I can feel the spirit of its woodland solitudes, I can hear the plash of its brooks; in my nostrils still lives the breath of flowers that perished twenty years ago.”


It's not the same place it was 150 years ago but it is still fantastically beautiful...even Waikiki Beach...if you keep your eyes toward the horizon.

reply to post by buster2010

I don't know, we never saw that under disinvestment.

It was more in books and programs on mysteries and so forth.
Some people apparently had horrific stories until they returned the rock.

There is an entry called "Pele's curse" on Wikipedia however, which suggests that the origins of the "myth" may be modern, but taking any rocks is indeed frowned upon.
en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by halfoldman

Just wondering, because I've heard the rumor since a child, but I wonder if anyone could confirm that there's a belief or truth that if one takes a volcanic rock from a Hawaiian sacred site as a souvenir one can be cursed?

Actually any rock from Hawaii. They belong to Pele.

I also once heard that the last Hawaiian Kahunas, or indigenous priests, had amazing psychic powers, but that they became extinct, except perhaps for one or two.

Kahuna were, and are, not necessarily priests. Like the word aloha, it has a number of meanings, generally it refers to experts in a field. Priestly kahuna, yes. But also canoe building kahuna. Fishing kahuna.

Is that for real?

For the most part...no.

Originally posted by halfoldman
Just wondering, because I've heard the rumor since a child, but I wonder if anyone could confirm that there's a belief or truth that if one takes a volcanic rock from a Hawaiian sacred site as a souvenir one can be cursed?

Yep. That's what they say. But, when my father came to visit us, he took several lava rocks back to give to the "girls" to pumice their feet. No body complained of any curse, just smooth feet! LOL.

I also once heard that the last Hawaiian Kahunas, or indigenous priests, had amazing psychic powers, but that they became extinct, except perhaps for one or two.

Yet today there are all kinds of people that include "Kahuna", or "Kahuna-trained" healers in their descriptions.
Is that for real?

A "Kahuna" is someone who is considered very learned and specializes in a thing. It's the equivalent to a PHD. There are agricultural kahunas, fishing kahunas, mid-wife kahunas, medical kahunas and spiritual kahunas. Most of the Kahunas that I knew were of "Native American" status and practiced their ancient ways. The ones that I knew had a special affinity with the Hopi tribes.

I was told that there were a group of very powerful kahunas on the island of Molokai who were tasked with protecting all of Hawaii by reading the clouds and conjuring water spouts to keep sailing ships away. I think the story goes that King Kamehameha killed them in a civil war. He was the first (and last king) to successfully unite all the Hawaiian islands under one reign.

The Hawaiian culture and mythology is rich!!

Originally posted by windword
reply to post by soulpowertothendegree

 

I lived in Hawaii for 27 years. Watched the Mauna Loa eruption and the many Kilauea flows and dealt with the "vog".

Here's some "daredevil" pictures. Enjoy

beautiful pictures..thanks for sharing.

More pics here:
www.dailymail.co.uk...

reply to post by Phage


Spoken by the BIG Kahuna himself, thanks for stopping by Phage.

reply to post by halfoldman


Well I am sure there is a belief like that associated to many different cultures, Egyptian and Aboriginal and Inca all have curses in their folklore. It's all in the mind though in my opinion, the power of suggestion.

reply to post by buster2010


That was the downfall of that series. Must have been the curse.

reply to post by brandiwine14


Thanks for getting the message. Take care.

reply to post by soulpowertothendegree


Yes Hawaii is beautiful, I spend 3 years in the main Island and my son was born in Honolulu. I have to agree that is just breathtaking and I am glad that I lived in the Island.

But I am also from the Island of PR and I have to say that between Hawaii and PR is not much difference in beauty beside the Volcano.

reply to post by marg6043


I am certain you are correct. Never been to either place but I am sure it is equally magnificent. Thanks.

I retrospect to the "explosive" scenario (no doom porn intended, Hawaii is indeed a gem of the world

When Krakatoa blew it was, and is considered to be the loudest sound ever heard in modern history, with reports of it being heard up to 3,000 miles (4,800 km) from its point of origin.

That's from where you are to Do The MAth
-far away.

On August 27 a series of four huge explosions almost entirely destroyed the island. The explosions were so violent that they were heard 3,110 km (1,930 mi) away in Perth, Western Australia and the island of Rodrigues near Mauritius, 4,800 km (3,000 mi) away.[4] The pressure wave from the final explosion was recorded on barographs around the world, which continued to register it up to 5 days after the explosion. The recordings show that the shock wave from the final explosion reverberated around the globe seven times.[19] Ash was propelled to a height of 80 km (50 mi). The sound of the eruption was so loud it was reported that if anyone was within ten miles (16 km), they would have gone deaf.

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reply to post by canucks555

Wrong kind of volcano. While there is evidence of past explosive activity with Hawaiian volcanoes it doesn't approach that of a stratovolcano.

Because the water table at Kilauea currently lies about 1,700 feet (520 m) below the rim of Halema'uma'u, there is little chance of imminent explosive eruptions. However, since the early 1820's, the floor of Kilauea's summit crater has dropped to within 300 feet (90 m) of the water table at least three times, and any future subsidence of this magnitude would be cause for concern. Future explosive eruptions of Kilauea could endanger the lives of the thousands of people who live, work, or spend time as visitors near the volcano.

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reply to post by Phage


Problem with citing facts like this is that they really don't know anything, history and science books are rewritten daily with new information. The ability for the Earth to burp and fart whenever it wants in whatever manner it wants is not relegated to science.

It is not necessarily volcanic eruptions you need to look out for, it is the risk of landslides causing tsunamis.
www.mbari.org...

Hawaiian landslides have been catastrophic

Volcanic activity and gentle erosion have not been the only forces to shape the Hawaiian islands. Landslide debris has now been mapped off of all the islands. Enormous amounts of material have traveled great distances, indicating that the slides were truly catastrophic. The Nuuanu and Wailau landslides, shown in the map, tore the volcanoes forming eastern Oahu and northern Molokai, respectively, in half, and deposited blocks large enough to have been given names as seamounts. Tsunamis generated during these slides would have been devastating around the entire Pacific Basin.