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Originally posted by Res Ipsa
reply to post by justwokeup
Since you justwokeup I'll understand that you think, or at least are trying to portray the "youtube" video as some sort of loyal North Korean kid's film school project. It was created by the State.
I also didn't say go to war either. But if you equate NK with other nuke powers or even Iran for that matter, you are still sleeping. Too many times the people that run my Country have cried wolf, doesn't mean wolves don't exist.
Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
Originally posted by citizenoftheworld
reply to post by OptimusSubprime
So you are against war but you don't mind if your beloved country would take out another country swift and quickly just because you feel they are treat. WELL.....I can say a lot of bad things now, but I won't. You need to come of your high horse and back come into reality. Luckily you are not in any position of power, nor will you ever be when you talk like this.
Everyone should be against war, but there are times where war is needed. I'm not really calling for war in the traditional sense, I am calling for swift and precise military action to eliminate a serious threat to our nation, an actual, legitimate threat, unlike Iraq and the rest who were not legitimate threats.
Originally posted by Res Ipsa
The real threat from NK is that they sell nuclear material to non state actors for hard currency. Non state actors who's goals are in the afterlife. For those people knowledge of guaranteed extermination is not a deterrent.
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You saved the best for last. The only thing I could improve upon this is to point out that those who's goals are in the afterlife, by their own admissions, ARE in fact state actors. Unless you are calling Iran a non-state?
That makes NK a real threat. Should we allow NK to sell Iran a nuke? Is there a sanction that could prevent this from happening?
Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
edit: I am only in favor of this as long as it is swift, hard and ends the threat. I don't want occupation. I don't want to build schools. This action MUST be Constitutionally declared by Congress IAW Art 1, Sec 8 of the Constitution. I don't want to teach them about Jesus. I want to be in and out. I also think that the starving and oppressed people of NK would support us for the most partedit on 12-2-2013 by OptimusSubprime because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by needlenight
The United States needs to start keeping out of everyone else's business. Instead it needs to focus on fixing its own godforsaken, corrupted, greedy and powerhungry country. Its corruption is seeping into every damn country who deals with the United States, be it through war, politics or trading. You are destroying this worlds chances of becomming something more than it is.
Originally posted by peashooter
Originally posted by needlenight
The United States needs to start keeping out of everyone else's business. Instead it needs to focus on fixing its own godforsaken, corrupted, greedy and powerhungry country. Its corruption is seeping into every damn country who deals with the United States, be it through war, politics or trading. You are destroying this worlds chances of becomming something more than it is.
Exactly, and they wonder where these terrorists come from when they're rolling around in tanks/humvees dropping bombs in their home countries. All of this makes them more prone to propaganda against the US.
Originally posted by Danbones
I'm thinkin that NK is the closest thing to the novel 1984 of all the national states
its people are NOT to blaim for the situation, so I don't agree with doing them
for example
the bankers were invested in both the bolshevic and the chines communist revolutions...
the rhetoric justifies a huge US presence that many south Koreans wish would leave...
i wonder what slave labour in a concentration camp might be manufacturing and for whom
someone has to be building the secret ai drone robot army...where could you get more corporate security then in NK?
I just can't helping thinking there is more to this then meets the eye
edit on 12-2-2013 by Danbones because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
Originally posted by SpaDe_
I'm pretty sure the US has enough problems to deal with internally already, without the need for attacking a country that is more than 30 years behind just about everyone else. What is there to fear about North Korea? Ever thought about how people outside the US view us already? We need another war like we need another 100 million people to go on welfare.
I know first hand how people around the world view the US because I have been all over the world, and I tend to agree with their views. Most of the complaints are about the US acting as the World police force, and I agree with that. There is such a thing as legitimate war, although rarely seen. Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc.. were not legitimate wars.