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Originally posted by sirhumperdink
and you are right it is all about profit for business but how has that been working out for the populace of the united states in this new world of global markets?
Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by NavyDoc
again, link it or quit with your BS cause that's all you've got apparently.
and for the record, you didn't live my life so you don't know what it's like, do you ?
Because you sad it with your "don't know what it is like" crapola
thanks for proving a non-existant point anyway
i responded to what you wrote and that indicated exactly what the response addressed.
again, your error is not mine.
although, it doesn't surprise me that you don't seem capable of admitting when you're wrong.
Originally posted by sirhumperdink
nono see in the modern world making more money does not always mean hiring more people regardless of whether or not you like it things are becoming more and more automated? so what is going to happen when business owners have no need for employees (or a very small need for employees)
and regardless of taxes its going to be cheaper to work over seas (the labor is simply cheaper and we can not and should not compete with those conditions)
now if money is leaving your economy when people purchase products produced in other countries you are going to need to find out a way to get money back into your economy .....and the only way to do that is through taxation and so it becomes a cyclical problem
the way to fix this problem is to give tax incentives to businesses operating domestically and raise taxes on those working over seas (the issue here is every time someone introduces a bill to raise taxes on businesses working overseas the republicans filibuster and will not allow a vote on it)
and because you have people paying less in taxes because they are getting paid very little or can not find work because most of the jobs have been exported the only way to raise revenue for things like SS and medicare is to raise the taxes
and you are right it is all about profit for business but how has that been working out for the populace of the united states in this new world of global markets?edit on 11-12-2012 by sirhumperdink because: (no reason given)
It was some incredibly stupid stuff that they did. They paid selected dairy farmers to sell their herds for slaughter. The resulting glut of beef caused beef prices to drop, so they had to start a program to support the beef industry.
Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by NavyDoc
because (as stated on pg 11), their altruistic nature of subsidizing farmers to destroy their crops is what made expanding food stamps necessary in the first place.
it had nothing to do with lazy ppl ... but SURPLUS farm production.
fix that and the rest will take care of itself.
Originally posted by beezzer
The progressives on this site and this thread see government as a solution to all our problems.
The rest of us see government as the cause of all these problems.
Originally posted by NarrowGate
From my best guess, it was macman.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by beezzer
The progressives on this site and this thread see government as a solution to all our problems.
The rest of us see government as the cause of all these problems.
The funny thing is that the ones calling for smaller government, smaller military, less entitlements, less government agencies, less regulations, and less interference with people's lives are the former government employees. Then we have people saying that "it's a big government/corporate conspiracy" on one side of their mouths and then "government must take care of us for our own good" with the other. Seems mutally contradictory to me.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by beezzer
The progressives on this site and this thread see government as a solution to all our problems.
The rest of us see government as the cause of all these problems.
The funny thing is that the ones calling for smaller government, smaller military, less entitlements, less government agencies, less regulations, and less interference with people's lives are the former government employees. Then we have people saying that "it's a big government/corporate conspiracy" on one side of their mouths and then "government must take care of us for our own good" with the other. Seems mutally contradictory to me.
Originally posted by sirhumperdink
my solution would be to give tax breaks to domestically operating companies and tax increases for those working overseas
what are your thoughts on that?
firefighters are not employees of the Federal government, try again.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by DoYouEvenLift
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by DoYouEvenLift
reply to post by NavyDoc
This tired argument..
How can someone that doesn't know how to do math be expected to read a book?!?!
Got to be a tad more specific. One problem with a website that has a "reply to" without quoting button, is that sometimes you don't know what another person is referencing.
If you are referring to the comparing the salary of a government employee to a welfare benefit, the actual amount has nothing to do with the underlying principle--that one gets payment for a service provided and the other gets payment for nothing.edit on 11-12-2012 by NavyDoc because: (no reason given)
What service is being provided by a government employee?
It depends on what is required. One assumes that a firefighter puts out fires, for example.
Originally posted by macman
Originally posted by sirhumperdink
my solution would be to give tax breaks to domestically operating companies and tax increases for those working overseas
what are your thoughts on that?
That is called protectionism and never works.