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Originally posted by bl4ke360
So you think the ability to kill millions of people is better than the ability not to? I would ask you to explain yourself if I wasn't so sure that you're a mass murderer in the making.
Originally posted by ShotGunRum
I don't really considered that being PWND but yeah...
He is European so his cultural view on guns is going to differ. America has a gun culture that glamorizes guns as sexy and cool. Europe doesn't.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Well, an ability to do something is always better than not having the ability to do something.
Likewise having 1 cancer is greater than having 0 cancer.
Originally posted by davjan4
Originally posted by ShotGunRum
I don't really considered that being PWND but yeah...
He is European so his cultural view on guns is going to differ. America has a gun culture that glamorizes guns as sexy and cool. Europe doesn't.
No.
It's not that Europe won't. It's that Europe can't.
Originally posted by bl4ke360
Completely false, the ability to do something positive or neutral is better than the ability to do nothing. The ability to do something negative is worse than the ability to do nothing.
Taking your analogy further, the ability to exterminate the human race is better than the ability not to. You are completely messed up if this is the logic you go by.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Originally posted by bl4ke360
Completely false, the ability to do something positive or neutral is better than the ability to do nothing. The ability to do something negative is worse than the ability to do nothing.
Taking your analogy further, the ability to exterminate the human race is better than the ability not to. You are completely messed up if this is the logic you go by.
For starters potential is not kinetic. Everyone has the ability to hurt another living being. We all have teeth or arms or hands and legs and can manipulate sharp or heavy objects. Most people leave it as potential and never act on it. Without action the ability is greater than the absence of ability regardless of what that ability is.
Originally posted by bl4ke360
Except all of that logic is lost when you scale it up to nuclear weapons, where someone's incompetence could mean the death of millions of people that had no say in the matter. Life on this planet would be gone very soon if we all lived by your logic. The difference is I see this as a bad thing, whereas you clearly don't.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
Again you're posturing your position as if I am saying something that I am not. Namely that I am somehow okay with destruction.
Originally posted by bl4ke360
You said people should have the right to own nukes, and that the ability for them to kill millions of people is better than not. You also said having cancer is better than not having cancer. So this does in fact mean you're saying destruction is better than no destruction. I'm not rephrasing what you said, this came from you directly.
Earlier this week, the BBC's Newsnight present, Jeremy Paxman told the Leveson Inquiry that Morgan showed his guests at a Daily Mirror lunch how to hack into mobile phones. At the same lunch, Morgan also teased TV presenter Ulrika Jonsson about the details of private conversations she had had with Sven-Göran Eriksson, at the time the England football manager. (Earlier that year, the Mirror had revealed that Jonsson had an affair with the then England football coach.)
Originally posted by GreenGlassDoor
In case you missed it: CNN host Piers Morgan [PM] and finance commentator Carol Roth [CR] got into a little twitter incursion concerning gun control.
PM:
The 2nd amendment was devised with muskets in mind, not high-powered handguns & assault rifles. Fact.
CR:
It was devised 4 people 2b able 2 protect themselves w same type of weaponry used by those from whom they might need protection
PM:
Where exactly does it say that in the Constitution - must have missed it?
CR:
right next to the word "muskets"
Twitter Conversationedit on 6-12-2012 by GreenGlassDoor because: (no reason given)