I JUST woke up from Sleep Paralysis, multiple times

Originally posted by Picollo30

Originally posted by Philosophile

Originally posted by Picollo30ignoring the true nature of the phenomena and trying to be rational about it when there's nothing rational about the supernatural.

Sleep paralysis IS natural though...?

is it? or is it the explanation given to us by scientists blaming it on lack of sleep because they dont have all the answers?

i know what i felt and what i've been through. feeling a weight on my back, eyes open couldnt move nor scream and when i asked jesus for help in my mind, the entity dissapeared. two times this happened, everytime more terrifying than the other. I agree with you,it's too much of a coincidence that calling on Jesus makes it stop every time. If it feels evil then tis because it is a bad prescence.

so no, i dont buy the scientists explanations sorry.

You are lucky you didn't have a utterly terrifying experience like I did with sleep paralysis.

reply to post by ZikhaN


I've had SP most of my life. My wife used to wake me up, saying that I was making "weird sounds again". It doesn't frighten me as much as it used to -- the hallucinatory dream state seems to fade more quickly and I think a lot of that is because of my efforts to stay in it and rationalize it, rather that just fighting it. I used to try to scream in the dream state, and I think that was what caused me to make the weird sounds.

I find that I have SP more often if I'm sleeping on my back. Also, I frequently can tell if it's going to be one of those nights, because I feel and hear a moving buzzing sensation as I'm about to fall asleep. When that happens, I often sit up and read for a little bit, which seems to break up the pattern.

Sometimes........... I can't help thinking that there is information within the experience, if only I were evolved enough to know how to process it.

reply to post by ZikhaN


Yep. I've had it several times usually during stressful periods - where I'm under a lot of emotional stress. Might want to see a doctor about it and get a referral to a sleep specialist. They do free testing for sleep disorders where I am.

I have had SP all my life. I have felt an evil presence and even seen his outline in the dark a few times. I have seen a psychologist and he say's that it is a form of narcolepsy. I could almost believe that, if not for the pure hate and evil that is always directed towards me when it happens.

reply to post by Charmeine


Wouldn't really say I have a sleep disorder, lol. This is the first time I have sleep paralysis in almost 2 years, where I otherwise normally sleep 10-12 hours on a daily basis without ever waking up once.

reply to post by ZikhaN


Alright. Well atleast you seem to have it under control. But you seem to get it unsually often? Last time I had mine was nearly 2 years ago (early 2011). Before that was like 2-3 years prior to 2011, like 2008-9.

This is the third time I've had Sleep Paralysis and

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One question: Do you drink / Had you drank coffee?

Caffeine is designed to cause paralysis in insects - that's a defense mechanism. It does cause paralysis in human beings too, but not as severe. Most notably example of this is usually the sleep paralysis.

I had them quite often when I still drank coffee. They were scary every single time - I was like sucked out of energy, so I didn't have the strength to wake myself up, without really straining myself to the extreme limits - and I tried to scream, sometimes being able to make small sounds, sometimes nothing audible, sometimes I don't know whether it succeeded or not. Usually it took me a relatively long time to reach 'freedom' and 'awakened' state, from 'not being able to move and sinking back to sleep'.

After I stopped drinking coffee over a year ago, there hasn't been one single sleep paralysis experience so far.

If you don't drink coffee (decaffeinated coffee is supposedly homeopathic in it's effect, so it might count), then forget I said anything.

If you do drink or had drank coffee before your sleep paralysis, well.. that's an easy thing to test, isn't it? Just leave the possible coffee and all caffeine products completely out of your diet - no soda pop either - and see, whether the sleep paralysis experiences stop.

In a Universe with zillions of all kinds of wonders and possibilities, of course something else might also be causing sleep paralysis. The only thing I know for sure is that caffeine causes them.

Quote from wikipedia:

"Caffeine is found in varying quantities in the seeds, leaves, and fruit of some plants, where it acts as a natural pesticide that paralyzes and kills certain insects feeding on the plants."

Link to wikipedia article about caffeine:

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by OrionsWitness
Scary stuff OP.
Great thread no doubt.
Sleeep paralysis is indeed scary...in fact you are dead whilst it is occurring.
But relax in the end we all wake up?

Please go into more detail. We're dead while it's occurring? I can personally testify to going OOB during one episode of SP so I'd like to hear a more detailed description of your quoted statement if you don't mind, thank you.

reply to post by ZikhaN


Still worthy of a trip to your doctor. Your body could be under some kind of stress that you don't know about. I have a rare blood disorder that causes muscle cramping and clotting - and this has been contributed to having seizures in the past and also connected to my sleep paralysis experiences.

I think that sleep paralysis is a bit of both - the medical world and the spiritual world. I think it's the spiritual world trying to tell us that something is wrong.

And no - in absolutely no way are people "dead" during sleep paralysis. I believe it relates to our medical conditions and neurology.

originally posted by: qmantoo
sleep paralysis can be explained by science, but can also be explained by metaphysics too. I have read that it is a state that the body goes through before an actual OOBE (out of body experience). This paralysis, together with various cracklings, whistlings,, snappings, etc are the precursors to the separation of the physical with the astral. It is said that if you relax and let this happen, the next experience will be that you are out of body.

I've been haunted by this # now regularly 2-3 times a week for almost 2 years now. It's the typical explained paralysis that i'm experiencing, sometimes it can be several times during one night. I've seen a black portal's on my wall, i've seen figures of beings standing infront of me in the room. If im paralysed with my vision towards the roof I can feel the their presence right next to me. But this new thing happend to me couple of nights ago. I think you explained it here.

What happend is that during my paralysis I was looking into the wall lying on the side. I couldn't move, though this time I felt unusually calm and relaxed compared to what i normally do. I could even close my eyes. I had them closed for quite some time, maybe 3-5 min ish? Suddenly my normal "closed eye vision" which has some sort of filter of colored dots you know, everything opened up! I got this sensation of total awareness and I could see myself sitting infront of my computer at my desk in 3rd person, im #ing floating in my room, looking at myself! I couldnt really control my hovering in the room though and the moment passed very quickly. I think i had the experience for almost a 1 min. It was unlike anything that i've ever experienced before. I woke up, it was still late night, no shouting, just this #ing great feeling.

Anyway is this astral projection? And what exactly do you mean with what you said? Can the paralysis be controlled and nudged to another spiritual direction? I never though sleep paralysis was spiritual. Is it a door to OOBE? I'd rather have these experiences during my "sleep" than being paralysed feeling haunted and hallucinating entities.

a reply to: Perceiver

That's astral projection! Sleep paralysis, vibrations and a wind like sound are all normal and are indicators that you can leave your body.

The first few times it happened to me I was freaked out. After researching them and having them frequently, I'm no longer afraid of them.

a reply to: Jennyfrenzy

Wow... Just wow. Thanks for the insight!

Thats good to hear.

Btw... Do you happen to know any good studies for AP? I downloaded this ebook from the thread below, about the Third Eye thing. But maybe you have some other advice?

Another thing I thought about. When you AP, does the OOBE stay within our current reality? I mean since I witnessed myself doing work when I consciously know i'm in the bed. If only I had the chance to look at my bed when it happend haha.

a reply to: Perceiver

There are quote a few threads on ATS about personal experiences and research in to them. Check out the Metaphysical Forum.

This is my personal near death and astral projection experience.

Scientists unlock mystery of out-of-body experiences (aka astral trips)


What Techniques Work Best For Inducing an Out of Body Experience

Out Of Body Research

a reply to: Jennyfrenzy

Cool, I will have a read soon! Thanks

a reply to: Perceiver

first of all, just because you felt great at the end does not mean that the experience as a whole was a positive one or as a result of positive energies. from my experience, positive energies do not interact with humans in ways like this. negative ones, however, do. personally, i have faith. and even in the most dire of situations where i (both alone and accompanied by at least two others on several different occasions) was literally face to face with something demonic. like physically by this thing. and if you've ever seen what they look like when they're not trying to play with parlor tricks, it aint pretty. :/ not to mention the very first time i ever saw something i saw the bright colorful energy like you described. and the portal as well. i have never seen more than one together though. but idk but perhaps it might be just one but making you see more than one.

Anywhoooo lol and all of those times--every single one of them--claiming the blood of jesus and telling them to go back to hell where jesus sends them works. sometimes ive had to say it repeatedly--but only if i'm afraid while saying the words. you have to feel confident and when it works youll know. it's just peace. they will probably come back, but seriously, humor me for a second and next time it happens, even if you dont believe (which is a-ok by me. and please don't take offense to my asking this. i'm curious if what works for me will work for you. i have a feeling it will. but take that with a grain of salt. i only know what i've experienced) would you be open to giving that a try if/when it happens to you again? if you cant talk, say it in your head. and tell me if anything happens. like if all of a sudden you can move again or feel the presence

moving past the jeebus talk, from what i've learned through both experience and research is that if it causes you confusion, uneasiness, panic, shock, paralysis, if it causes you something negative then it is. negative things like this tend to be trickster spirits of sorts and while perhaps not malevolent in a pressing way, they are still not good to have around you. bad juju and all that jazz. i have had similar experiences of sleep paralysis (which i have only ever had whilst sleeping alone in my fiance's bed. when i take a nap only or if i sleep too long. hasn't happened much. maybe 6 or so times tops).


but please, don't try to go further with it. messing around with this stuff is a very bad idea. ive messed with it a lot more than i should have. and honestly i'd feel like a bad person if i didn't warn you against trying to interact with whatevers going on. go watch episodes of the dead files. amy allen says as much as well. as does common sense. it just sounds like a bad idea. curiosity killed the cat and so on and soforth lols

a reply to: ZikhaN

Yeah. Sleep paralysis. Ive had it with false awakenings. Have felt the malecolent presence, felt what seemed like a cat jumping on the bed, among other things. Ive had it probably a few hundred times. If I have it I force myself up and walk through the house because I know if I try to go back to sleep ill go back into it.

I wasn't curious about this AP thing until that night. I've heard stuff about it before but never thought it was related to what i'm experiencing. I just find it intresting you know, especially now. But i'm not practicing it or anything. I just want to read about it. But thanks for the concern. I truly appreciate it.

The most scary part is when it's on such a level that when I wake up, i'm still not certain if its the reality or not. It usually damps if I just get up and start doing something. But that feeling when you finally get out of it and still don't know... It's terrible. What I mean't about it being positive though was just a comparison to what I use to feel after having a paralyse. It felt good to wake up from that thing compared to almost struggling for your life type of feeling you know.

a reply to: Perceiver

lol i getcha now. I think i misread what you said before xD haha lack of sleep OP
yeah i bet that would feel like a big relief!

a reply to: rukia

That's totally okay.

a reply to: ZikhaN

Hi OP, I am very experienced with anything to do with dreams and beyond. Will try to answer all your questions.

I just replied to similar post, so I copy pasted it here.

Night of sleep is not one straight line, there are certain patterns and sleep phases through which we pass every time we go to sleep. There are certain chemicals produced by our brain in different phases of sleep. One of those chemicals paralyze us when we sleep, when we wake up there is another chemical that makes us able to move again. And many more.

Sleep paralyses happens when something goes wrong in this pattern of sleep phases, we partially wake up and we cannot move. We all do fear the unknown, we want to move and we cannot move, of course when it first happens to you and you do not understand the nature of it, you are scared. The more you are trying to move, the scarier it gets. Your subconscious mind comes in play here, you biggest fear comes to life. You still did not wake up completely, so you are seeing fragments of your dreams in your waking life. Intention controls our dreams, for beginners it is hard to generate that pure intention needed for perfect dream control. Fear is a very strong tool to generate that intention. This is the reason why fear summons something creepy that easy and fast.
In short it is Paralyze + Hypnagogic Hallucination + Fear of Paralyze and later on + Fear of creepy things your scared imagination realized for you.
And one more thing, all those creepy stories you read about SP also come into play and add more fear and more scary expectations, thus, generating more intention

It takes time to get used to it, when you understand the process, you know that nothing is wrong, everything is fine. You also do understand that you are able to continue dreaming while you are awake. Do same what you would do in any lucid dream, make something nice. If your dream control is weak and you are not scared of your SP, you will most probably see nothing. If you are not scared of your SP and you have good dream control, you will be able to do anything you want, its pretty cool to see a mixture of waking life and dream objects.


You wont be having SP's forever, as far as I know, your brain is getting used to what you are doing and slowly working out a process that wont cause any errors/mistakes that might lead to a SP.


If you want to get rid of scary events, try to laugh and smile. It works the opposite of fear and will probably make it better for you. But most important, remember the process, its something normal, don't expect nightmares and all will be fine.