Obama Wins - Layoffs Starting

well i feel sorry for all the lay offs but me and my friends just got a promotion and bonuses.....sweet!!!

Originally posted by ararisq
I work for a company that has been on a hiring spree all year, adding 50+ jobs this year alone. Today, I got the call that my staff is being cut by over 75%. I have no idea how we'll be able to deliver our work next year, it just seems impossible.

I've heard some other anecdotal evidence that people are losing their jobs all across the company as businesses allocate what used to be salary to future taxes.

Right !

Life as Americans know it will be coming to a dreadful end now that Obama is back. If that many people are being laid off your company never really needed them in the first place or your story is merely a work of fiction.

Darn George Bush...

Darn Publicans...

Originally posted by DOUGH3914
well i feel sorry for all the lay offs but me and my friends just got a promotion and bonuses.....sweet!!!

Congrats!

Unfortunately where I work I have to inform over 20 people that we are now offering them part time only and should start looking for full time work elsewhere. We are replacing much of their work with a hydroponics system whose cost is miniscule in comparison. I work at the largest plant nursery in town which caters towards the higher income bracket and we have seen business decline significantly for the last year. I already had to let go of one of my people in our gift shop (she refused part time) as my revenues did not support her (I do the merchandising, stocking, and inventory) despite a 150% increase since I assumed the reigns.

We were also planning a multimillion dollar expansion which has now been post-poned until until we have the cash on hand to not take out a loan. This would have lead to at least the hiring of another 20+ people but instead we have had to hire a second accountant and lawyer to review all the new paperwork will have to frequently produce with new EPA and healthcare laws.

I graduated two years ago and over half of my fellow graduates (and friends) have yet to find any real full-time work.

Most of all I am dreading all the additional paperwork I am going to have to sift through.

On the bright side when this healthcare law kicks in I can tell all the fatties that they better shape because its the law and they are keeping us from moving forward with all their potential health problems.

Oh wait I am a smoker so I guess I am no better hahahahaha

Can't wait for four more years of this!

Grim job prospects could scar today's college graduates
usatoday30.usatoday.com...

Back to the 1930s

Social scientists say these young adults are a lot like the Americans who came of age in the early 1930s, both in the economic upheaval they confront and in the attitudes toward success, contentment and risk aversion that they are forming.

Hurray progress! We have been so progressive we actually lapped the generation before us and are already back to the 1930's LoL.

Jobs Few, Grads Flock to Unpaid Internships
www.nytimes.com...

53% of Recent College Grads Are Jobless or Underemployed—How?
www.theatlantic.com...

More than half of America's recent college graduates are either unemployed or working in a job that doesn't require a bachelor's degree, the Associated Press reported this weekend. The story would seem to be more evidence that, regardless of your education, the wake of the Great Recession has been a terrible time to be young and hunting for work.

The Class of 2012Labor market for young graduates remains grim
www.epi.org...

Can not wait to see what happens in the next four years. Please continue to kick us while we are down.

Stop these evil corporations and business owners from oppressing us with opportunities to earn enough to pay off our debts and pursue our own interests!

Ahahahahahaha seriously people it is too sad a prospect so we may as well laugh about it.

I'm sorry your ceo and board of directors feel it necessary to punish others when they can't get what they want.

All the ones who understand this and agree sound like business owners. All those who think this is just fear mongering sound like they have no clue what it takes to run a business. Darn greedy business owners... so go start your own business. Its never a good idea to bite the hand that feeds you. You only hate the man who pays you until you need him to pay you. It will be interesting to come back to this subject in 6 months.

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Agreed!

Ill admit the job market sucks. I work in the IT industry in the NW and alot of the jobs got sent to India and China thanks to WTO and NAFTA. But moreso lately theres very few good paying jobs that arent short term contract. I feel lucky I have a 2 year contract making less than half what I made less than 2 years ago, but its difficult work with little training.
I have a relative working for military contracting and its sounding like they are cutting back, who knows tho?
I have little faith in Obamacare, it was meant to do the same thing as the car insurance law, forces citizens to pay for private industry products BY LAW. Its very bad in the long run as it will likely let the medical industry corrupt itself to death.

Wasnt Obama's employment advisor some ex GE guy known for sending jobs to China?

Originally posted by mrsdudara
All the ones who understand this and agree sound like business owners. All those who think this is just fear mongering sound like they have no clue what it takes to run a business. Darn greedy business owners... so go start your own business. Its never a good idea to bite the hand that feeds you. You only hate the man who pays you until you need him to pay you. It will be interesting to come back to this subject in 6 months.

People who protest businesses should run their own. That would be the ultimate protest. Twisting a business owners' arms will make them close up and go elsewhere.

Liberals, the next time you go to a small business and the owner is not smiling...it means he is not breaking even. So...please don't buy force your pity, little egos on the small business owner. He just wants you out of his way.

And for you super-liberals. Those "crowds" that you see when you shop is just on "payday." The other 99% of the time, it is "dead slow."

-Thank You-

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I don't think you understand what businesses are facing. They only make so much money. Part of that goes out in salaries, part of it to buy and resupply what it takes to keep the business running, light bills, heating/cooling bills, insurance for loss of building just like your home owners insurance, and other expenses that depend on what kind of business. It takes a lot of money to run a business and to pay employees and for the owner to enjoy the fruits of his labor also. If new expenses are put on the company with no new money coming in they have to cut somewhere to cover the new expenses. Yes, people are going to lose their jobs and if you can't buy from those companies, you may have noone to purchase anything from. Business 101 needs to be taught in school, college and high school. Money doesn't grow on trees. If you had your own business, worked hard to grow it and wanted to take home a nice salary (after all it was your idea and hard work that got it this far) why shouldn't you be able to. You treat your employees good. They have jobs. Government should never be able to interfer in the personal lives of its citizens on this level but they are now and we will all feel the pains of people trying to survive. Trying to keep their businesses afloat. Trying to make sense of this new madness.

Stupid fail president ideology and a stupid voting populace that elected the bastard.

You get what you voted for. Guns and ammo are the best investment, not to use, but to sell.

Originally posted by FriedBabelBroccoli
We are replacing much of their work with a hydroponics system whose cost is miniscule in comparison.

Why hasn't your business been running that way all along? The end goal is to have technology replace workers so we can have more leisure time. Work is for robots.

Originally posted by ararisq
I work for a company that has been on a hiring spree all year, adding 50+ jobs this year alone. Today, I got the call that my staff is being cut by over 75%. I have no idea how we'll be able to deliver our work next year, it just seems impossible.

I've heard some other anecdotal evidence that people are losing their jobs all across the company as businesses allocate what used to be salary to future taxes.

Most of these companies where told to keep layoffs and economic disclosures at a minimum until the election was ove, pure and simple.

Originally posted by MysticStrummer
Republicans don't handle defeat well at all

I live in a red state. There are some angry Republicans about lately I took 4 more years of W with a "What choice do I have?" I just continued to stay out of society's way like I'll do this time around. Obama sometimes talks the talk, but he's not good at walking the walk. I don't have the means or a willing GF to move to a democratic socialist country. I'll just enjoy the show and hawk my wares. Too bad the GF thinks Colorado and Washington are too cold. Tourism is going to be crazy in those states. I could at least go to a utopia after work

Originally posted by gentledissident

Originally posted by FriedBabelBroccoli
We are replacing much of their work with a hydroponics system whose cost is miniscule in comparison.

Why hasn't your business been running that way all along? The end goal is to have technology replace workers so we can have more leisure time. Work is for robots.

You do understand we don't intend to share what we produce or give it away?

With all the technology we have we are working more than ever, what makes you think that more technology will eliminate work?

It will only eliminate the need for useless eaters who do not contribute to furthering the technology. Don't forget that in most all populace revolutions the 'intellectuals' and 'artists' are the first to get 86'd.

Not sure if this was mentioned or not or how many business owners here have the number of employees that will make Obamacare affect their business, but Obamacare is the direct cause for a lot of the layoffs. Yes there were plenty of companies waiting to see who won the election with very heavy hearts knowing what had to be done post election if Obama were re-elected. There are specific numbers of employees that a company can have on full-time salary before the company must begin paying mandatory healthcare payments. The first cutoff is 50 and the second cutoff is 200. If any of the US owned companies anyone you know works for has a number close to that or over they should be very cautious of thinking they are safe in their employment.

This is very real and many jobs were cut the day after elections for this reason alone. I do know firsthand because I know company owners that had to do just that because of the immediate cost of healthcare going up. Some avoided laying off more by cutting employees hours below full time to part time hours in order to avoid paying healthcare costs but keeping the person employed.

You can't blame the companies for this action as they simply have to respond to what is in essence a hostile and forced encroachment on their very existence. This will force many businesses to close as they either did not know or were not prepared for this. This is the reason for jobless numbers being so high all throughout the Obamacare talks as companies do not want to have to hire and fire...they would rather push whom they already employ to do more.

Jobless claims are going to sky rocket and get worse than ever recorded in the next year. And when it happens, all those that voted for Obama and are out of a job will most likely still say that it was because of the Bush administration...sad but true. Obama and his plans, especially healthcare reform, will be the ruiner of our morale and pride. It will force everyone to need handouts except for the ultra wealthy and will essentially create a much larger division in the class system in the US.

Obama and his administration are and will be our country's biggest mistake and will go down in history as the president that caused the most division and damage to the US.

Originally posted by ararisq

Originally posted by newcovenant
I wonder why Obama didn't get credit for your company "being on a hiring spree all year - adding 50+ jobs alone" but now that he is elected and you are facing layoffs they are his fault as well.

Everything is not Obamas fault except the things he did himself. Just like with GWB. If he was responsible once he is still responsible for what he did - not for people imaginations.

Simple, because the Obama economic changes which were passed previously do not go in to effect until after the election. That was, of course, done on purpose. Cause had they gone in to effect in 2010 or 2011 you wouldn't have voted for Obama. Well you probably would have anyway - but most people wouldn't have.

I think you got that a little bit reversed.
Most people would have and they did.

The true ATS'ers who come here for discourse on anti-establishment topics really have to just leave the Obama-bots alone. I'm sort of tired of them and as long as you keep inflaming them, they're going to rear their ugly heads.

Half of them are probably paid shrills anyway.

The best thing we can do is get back to what we do best......

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The boss is back to happily ornery self. I think that he just let his emotions get the better of him.

I filled up the day after I posted my first reply and the price had not changed.

So it's all good for now.

On the bright side, they'll be able to get free birth control and in some areas they'll get a free cell phone. As the saying goes, "life is tough all over."