Nice Job Creating More Terrorists [According To The Intelligence Community]

reply to post by tothetenthpower


Intelligence communities agree with you? Which one? Persian, China CCP and Russian ones?

Spare me your half truths and numbers. Are ALL civilian deaths the result of USA actions? Thousands of deaths occurred in Syria today. Will you with your terrorist loving myopia lay blame on USA too, or use historical evidences as 'american hegomony ' the cause of it all, as you often sweepingly and generally love to do?

We can go on all night. But it will not solve the problem of your terrorists kind continued slaughter of mankind as long as you continue to play the blame game upon USA and NO ONE else.

As I mentioned before...the door to find common grounds upon Rule of Law, and NOT IDEALOGIES, lays upon for your kind to end the slaughters.

May I not use that phrase - take it ..or leave it. There are 7 billion of us enraged innocents againts your minority humanslaying group that you admitted clearly in your previous post belonging to - terrorists.

Originally posted by khimbar

If the UN or some other power invaded the USA, patriots and militias would fight back. They'd use the same tactics, probably, and be hailed by some as heroes doing their patriotic duty against the invaders.

Imagine a country waltzing in to the USA, murdering 500,000 of your women and children. Yo would expect groups to fght back and it shouldn't be any different in any country.

Yet people get angry when the invaded and bombed fight back the only way they can. I don't see why.

I do and its simple. People don't care about the facts, they believe what they see and hear from the idiot box so it must be the truth.. If that is not the problem, they are most likely religious fanatics.

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
SO, by your logic and in your own opinion, we the innocents, should just lay down, let the terrorists walk all over us, slaughter our loved ones as they wish, and let them force whatever they wish upon our throats?

Do know that innocent people did not bomb or kill or torture any of the terrorists or their families. They did to us all first.

I understand where you're coming from with the first part ("they" bombed us first) but I think your logic is missing some things. There is not a country called "the terrorists" that bombed us. We did not, in response, go invade a country called "the terrorists." No such place exists. As such, in responding to "terrorism" we "have to" invade countries which contain large populations of non-terrorist individuals.

Think of it like this.... lets say a new ultra right-wing fundamentalist christian group (with deep pockets) decides that they are going to make a religious/political point... and they go over to the middle east and fly a plane into the burj khalifa or whatever huge building... Then some arabs band together and send some troops (invasion style) into the United States. Let's say they focus on the bible belt and the midwest (two fundamentalist strongholds).

How do you think people would respond to this? How about when they kill some "christian insurgents?"

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
An eye for an eye will only leaves the whole world blind in the end. Thus we do have RULE OF LAW, of which ANY human whom is wronged, or think he is wronged, can seek for justice, locally and even internationally, as ICJ cases had proven with actual war criminals whom slew both combatants and non combatants, and not soldiers carrying out their orders in defense of their loved ones and country.

What are you even talking about here? Say a muslim/arab family over in iraq loses a family member who got caught in crossfire or something, while soldiers were hunting down terrorists.... what recourse do they have? How can they "seek for justice?"

Most of them do it with a gun, or some other such violent nonsense... as I don't think they have any other outlet.



You know.... I have heard some suggest that maybe we even WANT to create a group of people who are angry with us... who maybe even would be provoked to proper military action. People who suggest this, some would call them paranoid types... I'll reserve judgment-- look toward what we might be able to gain if we had an overt reason to go to war with certain middle eastern countries, like we are in iraq, and not just "looking for terrorists" (like we have been in afghanistan)..

Originally posted by DarknStormy

Originally posted by khimbar

If the UN or some other power invaded the USA, patriots and militias would fight back. They'd use the same tactics, probably, and be hailed by some as heroes doing their patriotic duty against the invaders.

Imagine a country waltzing in to the USA, murdering 500,000 of your women and children. Yo would expect groups to fght back and it shouldn't be any different in any country.

Yet people get angry when the invaded and bombed fight back the only way they can. I don't see why.

I do and its simple. People don't care about the facts, they believe what they see and hear from the idiot box so it must be the truth.. If that is not the problem, they are most likely religious fanatics.

Yep. Very true.

'We should all fear the brown people. They hate our freedoms!' etc.

reply to post by Logarock


Well I think the USA should be blown back to the stone age by every nation for countless murders over the past 60 years. And just to add to that, the defects caused by depleted uranium dropped in Iraq, torture, false imprisonment in Gitmo, The list goes on. Your want to talk about clowns, take a look in your backyard. Next time, why don't you just say Genocide all Muslims or something... you may aswell.

reply to post by khimbar


Someone touched upon it in an earlier post. There is not a country called terrorist.. Why were two countries invaded? Only a rich man could give you an answer to that question.

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reply to post by Pedro4077


Yep treating him like they just caught and killed a wild pig... Real Humane.

reply to post by DarknStormy


Don't you know? the 15 yr boy had to die, otherwise he would come to America and "steal our freedom" and "rape our daughters".

Its either him or us.

Originally posted by luciddream
reply to post by DarknStormy

 

Don't you know? the 15 yr boy had to die, otherwise he would come to America and "steal our freedom" and "rape our daughters".

Its either him or us.

He was probably kicking a bit of dirt in the hood and minding his own business

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
SO, by your logic and in your own opinion, we the innocents, should just lay down, let the terrorists walk all over us, slaughter our loved ones as they wish, and let them force whatever they wish upon our throats?

Do know that innocent people did not bomb or kill or torture any of the terrorists or their families. They did to us all first.

An eye for an eye will only leaves the whole world blind in the end. Thus we do have RULE OF LAW, of which ANY human whom is wronged, or think he is wronged, can seek for justice, locally and even internationally, as ICJ cases had proven with actual war criminals whom slew both combatants and non combatants, and not soldiers carrying out their orders in defense of their loved ones and country.

Had the terrorists sought for justice or societal progress in the humane way? None. They rejected ALL offers of even negotiations, and sought for annihilation for anyone who stood in their way, leaving mankind with no choice but to react and defend themselves.

Thus, before you blame the innocent ones, do look closely at whom the terrorists truly are, and why they existed and continue to exists.

It is people with blindness, ignorance, hatred for authority, misguided idealogies, hatred for the west using mythical and unsubstantiated lies/propaganda, and hatred for the rule of law, that allows them to grow and fester. SO..who are the morons now?

May you and others like you judge yourselves fairly and honestly before the mirror. Truth is painful, it often is, but is far more betther than living in hate, lies and delusions.

edit on 18-10-2012 by SeekerofTruth101 because: (no reason given)

"Thus, before you blame the innocent ones, do look closely at whom the terrorists truly are, and why they existed and continue to exists."

What a fitting statement you have made there, why bomb whole countries then. If you can look closely at whom the terrorists really are why is the west killing innocence?

Originally posted by DarknStormy
reply to post by Logarock

 

Well I think the USA should be blown back to the stone age by every nation for countless murders over the past 60 years. And just to add to that, the defects caused by depleted uranium dropped in Iraq, torture, false imprisonment in Gitmo, The list goes on. Your want to talk about clowns, take a look in your backyard. Next time, why don't you just say Genocide all Muslims or something... you may aswell.

Well the Serbs tried that......genociding muslims....and we put a stop to that. Forget about that did ya?

reply to post by Pedro4077




Damn...as hard as it was to read through that, and look at the accompanying pictures I am glad I did.

I wonder how "winning the hearts and minds" worked out in this particular case with the young boys Family?

Someone please come on here and explain how they would feel as a Brother, Sister, Mother, Father, Aunt, Uncle, Nephew, Niece, Cousin, Friend, Countryman if something like this happened to someone you knew. Tell us how you would feel about America,

Be honest, and answer the question, specifically.

reply to post by crawdad1914
I would wonder why these people were here and what dumba#s thought it would be a good idea to mess with them.

Originally posted by Logarock

Originally posted by DarknStormy
reply to post by Logarock

 

Well I think the USA should be blown back to the stone age by every nation for countless murders over the past 60 years. And just to add to that, the defects caused by depleted uranium dropped in Iraq, torture, false imprisonment in Gitmo, The list goes on. Your want to talk about clowns, take a look in your backyard. Next time, why don't you just say Genocide all Muslims or something... you may aswell.

Well the Serbs tried that......genociding muslims....and we put a stop to that. Forget about that did ya?

Pretty easy to forget when yous are the ones doing the same thing these days and justifying it with the words "terror and terrorist". The funny thing is you fine Iran millions for 9/11, attack Iraq and Afghan for 9/11, find Osama in Pakistan, Support extremists in Libya and Syria and still play the terrorist card. What drugs are you muppets on? You may of done a little good but you let your government f*** it all up by doing stupid sh!t which far outweighs the honourable deeds.

Originally posted by Logarock
reply to post by crawdad1914

 

I would wonder why these people were here and what dumba#s thought it would be a good idea to mess with them.

A non answer, displaying the innability, or the absence of courage to face the reality of the hypothetical situation and answer truthfully.

Not only do we create foreign terrorists by bombing their neighborhoods, but we create domestic terrorists as well. All those FBI releases about how they averted a terror attack....those are terror attacks that the FBI concocts, and then lures some dimwitted yet hot headed moron into going along with.

reply to post by tothetenthpower


Apparently, you have never been tortured. It's not just about pain. It's about breaking you. For example, strange music played on loud volume in your cell, just enough water and rations to keep you hungry but physically healthy. After all that two 30 minute sessions of water boarding a day. You'll break, i promise. It may take a couple of months but you'll break, psychologically. Don't forget the isolation cell you sit in for 22 hours out of the day that is padded. By the way, it does give good intel. It's made to break who you are, so you lose your identity, which happens to everyone, eventually, in that process.

Okay, so we created more terrorist. So what? We will kill them too. Why would I be afraid to kill those who killed us on 9/11 because more terrorist would pop up? It's a good thing and makes things simpler. More to kill. You have 100 hostile vs 30 well trained soldiers. We have 10 casualties, you have 50 or 60. Also, please continue to scream Allah Akbar so we know where you are, thanks. Numbers will not help you on the modern battlefield.

Originally posted by crawdad1914

Originally posted by Logarock
reply to post by crawdad1914

 

I would wonder why these people were here and what dumba#s thought it would be a good idea to mess with them.

A non answer, displaying the innability, or the absence of courage to face the reality of the hypothetical situation and answer truthfully.

edit on 18-10-2012 by crawdad1914 because: SPELLING

Oh no my freind. Thats whats called keeping it real. A good deal if Iraqi patriots would be alive right now if they had used their heads in such a way. What you are looking for is an emotional responce.

Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by tothetenthpower

 

Apparently, you have never been tortured. It's not just about pain. It's about breaking you. For example, strange music played on loud volume in your cell, just enough water and rations to keep you hungry but physically healthy. After all that two 30 minute sessions of water boarding a day. You'll break, i promise. It may take a couple of months but you'll break, psychologically. Don't forget the isolation cell you sit in for 22 hours out of the day that is padded. By the way, it does give good intel. It's made to break who you are, so you lose your identity, which happens to everyone, eventually, in that process.

Okay, so we created more terrorist. So what? We will kill them too. Why would I be afraid to kill those who killed us on 9/11 because more terrorist would pop up? It's a good thing and makes things simpler. More to kill. You have 100 hostile vs 30 well trained soldiers. We have 10 casualties, you have 100. Also, please continue to scream Allah Akbar so we know where you are, thanks.

edit on 18-10-2012 by milkyway12 because: (no reason given)

You speak as if this is something to be proud of. Torture will get someone to tell you whatever you want to hear, even if they don't really know anything. And that ''official'' 9-11 story is the biggest bunch of bullsh!+. I come from a military family, from WW2, to the present, and I must say, you seem like a really warped fellow who gets his rocks off torturing and killing people. If there is a such thing as karma, your a$$ is in trouble, champ. You come off like you're some super badass, but you're nothing without your toys and your boys.