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Originally posted by KrzYma
reply to post by SaturnFX
for what I know... some humans with no knowledge of physics at all have found some kind of "creator" to explain all that Snip it they did not known and couldn't understand themself
Some other humans who were stupid enough to believe the first one on "how it all woks" scratched some text somewhere and other little smarter humans saw the "power" in this so called "god words" and made the most violent institution out of it.. religionedit on 27-8-2012 by KrzYma because: (no reason given)
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Originally posted by queenofangels_17
Originally posted by yyzyyz123
wow,you must be a blast to hangout with on a saturday night.you seem so open and light hearted,a real bundle of fun.
Originally posted by queenofangels_17
reply to post by My.mind.is.mine
Just be strong in your Faith, the believers have no need to fear.
Praise be to Allah, the Keeper of Promise.
Allah will perfect His light and the light of the Believers, insha'Allah!
57:13 On the day when the hypocritical men and the hypocritical women will say unto those who believe: Look on us that we may borrow from your light! it will be said: Go back and seek for light! Then there will separate them a wall wherein is a gate, the inner side whereof containeth mercy, while the outer side thereof is toward the doom.
Originally posted by DOLCOTT
reply to post by Lostmymarbles
The quoting of Muhammed as articulated in the quran is my point, yes I believe in GOD but he has never been referred to as "allah" again the quran and it's teachings particularly in dealing with non-believers and women is disturbing to me and is not the message of love and peace that Jesus taught.
My opinion.
Originally posted by Lostmymarbles
reply to post by Char-Lee
Just read it but it seems kinda odd. They didn't give verses from where these stories come from, at least not for all of them.
Stories such as this though are common in the old testament. I believe Abraham had several wives or at least one wive and several slave girls for which he had to help spread his seed. And I believe there is also the part where he sleeps with the Temple prostitute, which has always been hard for me to picture them having such an individual solely for the Temples.
There is also the story of Mary being a prostitute and Jesus' wive.
What it all comes down to is who wrote these stories and for what propose?
If these are true then it would be sad, but it should not take away from the message of God and what God has given us. To separate yourself from God because of a bad apple is a terrible thing to do.
To downplay another religion because of something as trivial as this, which cannot be proved 100% is another sad thing and the only loser would be the individual who walks away from God because of doubts cast about them by outside stuff that has no bearing on the true meaning of God or Gods love for us all.
Originally posted by queenofangels_17
Originally posted by Lostmymarbles
reply to post by Char-Lee
Just read it but it seems kinda odd. They didn't give verses from where these stories come from, at least not for all of them.
Stories such as this though are common in the old testament. I believe Abraham had several wives or at least one wive and several slave girls for which he had to help spread his seed. And I believe there is also the part where he sleeps with the Temple prostitute, which has always been hard for me to picture them having such an individual solely for the Temples.
There is also the story of Mary being a prostitute and Jesus' wive.
What it all comes down to is who wrote these stories and for what propose?
If these are true then it would be sad, but it should not take away from the message of God and what God has given us. To separate yourself from God because of a bad apple is a terrible thing to do.
To downplay another religion because of something as trivial as this, which cannot be proved 100% is another sad thing and the only loser would be the individual who walks away from God because of doubts cast about them by outside stuff that has no bearing on the true meaning of God or Gods love for us all.
Mary of Magdala was not a prostitute, she was one of Jesus' devoted disciples, and one whom Jesus loved.
God will unite all those who love Him.
Do not separate from God and His rope to mankind which are the Prophets.
They brought only one message, Worship the True God, and obey the Messengers!
Peace to those who overcome!
Originally posted by Char-Lee
Originally posted by queenofangels_17
Originally posted by yyzyyz123
wow,you must be a blast to hangout with on a saturday night.you seem so open and light hearted,a real bundle of fun.
Originally posted by queenofangels_17
reply to post by My.mind.is.mine
Just be strong in your Faith, the believers have no need to fear.
Praise be to Allah, the Keeper of Promise.
Allah will perfect His light and the light of the Believers, insha'Allah!
57:13 On the day when the hypocritical men and the hypocritical women will say unto those who believe: Look on us that we may borrow from your light! it will be said: Go back and seek for light! Then there will separate them a wall wherein is a gate, the inner side whereof containeth mercy, while the outer side thereof is toward the doom.
Boasting or bragging is the act of making an ostentatious speech.[1] It is considered a vice by such major religious groups as Christianity,[2] Islam,[3] Hinduism,[4] and Buddhism.[5]
en.wikipedia.org...
15:8 We send not down the angels save with the Fact, and in that case the disbelievers would not be tolerated.
Read the message before.
It is one of my signs, no believer can hate me.
Only Hypocrites and disbelievers can hate me.
Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds!
Originally posted by queenofangels_17
reply to post by Sauron
Illusion of Knowledge is nothing but an opinion. But Knowledge that comes from God is Wisdom, none attains to it except the God-fearing.
We raise by grades (of mercy) whom We will, and over every lord of knowledge there is one more knowing.
2:269 He giveth wisdom unto whom He will, and he unto whom wisdom is given, he truly hath received abundant good. But none remember except men of understanding.
Originally posted by seethetruth
Originally posted by DOLCOTT
reply to post by Lostmymarbles
The quoting of Muhammed as articulated in the quran is my point, yes I believe in GOD but he has never been referred to as "allah" again the quran and it's teachings particularly in dealing with non-believers and women is disturbing to me and is not the message of love and peace that Jesus taught.
My opinion.
its down to interpretation again some Muslims think it is right to do honour killings but the majority don't its how some have interpreted the words ,
What is with people and fearing god? Fearing god is wierd to me. It is like fearing the planet I am walking on. Why should I fear something that wants me to make a symbiotic personal connection with it and helps me seek answers for my question about how reality and the human mind works internaly so that I can better myself and gives me joy and calmness?
Originally posted by queenofangels_17
You are both correct and wrong at the same time.
Allah is indeed the word for God in Arabic as Arab Christians and Jews call God, Allah.
In Aramaic it is Elaha.
Allah is also God's proper name. God in Arabic is also known as ilah and Al is the prefix The, therefore Allah means THE GOD, the One God.
Say, He is The God, Allah, The One.
Instead of Say he is Ilah, the One.
Only the ignorant denies that Allah and the God of other religions are not the same.
edit on 27-8-2012 by queenofangels_17 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by wittgenstein
Can anyone tell me why faith is a good thing? As I argued in a recent post,
I have never understood faith and why it is a good thing. Suppose I am a child and live with my brother. Upstairs is a room that is locked and no sound comes from it. My brother tells me that I should have faith that our father is alive and lives in that room.Everyday criminals break in, steal our stuff and beat us up. My brother tells me that I should have faith that our father loves us and is not leaving the room to help us because its in our best interest, its just that we don't know why he doesn't leave the room or say anything. After ten years Dad comes out of the room and says to my brother, " Both of you are good people. However I only love you because you had faith that I existed but your brother will be tortured for eternity because he had doubts that I was in the room."
queenofangels_17’s position is that we are slaves. O.K. I can see why an earthly king or dictator would want us to be slaves. But God?! When I see an ant (hopefully obviously inferior to me) I do not demand that he worship me! I think that queenofangels_17’s idea of God is hopelessly en.wikipedia.org... and shows a total misunderstanding of the Koran.
Originally posted by wittgenstein
Fear/love ( a God fearing man does not love God) is a en.wikipedia.org... It is not part of the Koran or the Bible. Unfortunately, both books were co-opted and corrupted into a slave mentality. Originally, the Koran and Bible talked of an experience of God. Then because the powerful elite’s desire for power , both books became dissertations on obedience, the opposite of www.biblegateway.com... !
PS; I have no idea why this happens!!! Click on the Wiki site, then on “search for double bind” then click on the site at the top “ double bind”!
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