Anyone's leaves turning early?

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I think that is a good thing.

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I have observed the "fall" feeling as well. Hard to explain. an 80 degree summer day feels different than an 80 degree fall day. lol

Did everyone forget that we inhabit a sphere zooming through space and to say we have been accurately measuring anything for 300 years is very generous?

At one time Antarctica was a tropical continent…

Things do change people!

Here in WNY we started a fall weather pattern in the middle of August. I have noticed trees starting to change. Have noticed a couple of goose chevrons headed south and yesterday I saw a huge flock of starlings getting ready to migrate. My trees in the back yard are starting to drop leaves, without changing color.

Fireflys appeared early this year and disappeared in a week instead of hanging around 'till the end of August. Some of the flowers in the garden have died off early and the climatis vines are blooming very late.They just started when last year they bloomed in early july.Temps were in the 50's for the last couple of nights, and 60's before that....as I said a fall weather pattern. We don't usually see these low evening temps until mid september.

Originally posted by misfitofscience
It may not be that the leaves are turning but that the Drought that many of us across North America have experienced has actually forced the leaves to go into/start up hibernation mode.

TYes, that's more or less it

This from 2002, for example:

www.usatoday.com...

See also:

easttexasgardening.tamu.edu...

So, you're all just experiencing the normal, expected, consequence of the drought/warm weather experienced earlier this year.

Originally posted by nixie_nox
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I have observed the "fall" feeling as well. Hard to explain. an 80 degree summer day feels different than an 80 degree fall day. lol

That's exactly what I noticed starting a couple of weeks ago! And I thought I was crazy. I live in North Texas and mentioned to my wife that the sun did not seem as intense. She noticed it too. It's like it has a slight eclipse, like it's 90% as bright as it usually is. Normally here we have an intense sun and high temps well into September. But even if it's 90 degrees, it has a diffrent feel to it, like the sun is in "fall" mode.

Last year we had a very wrm winter. I could have set out my spring planting in mid-January.

Originally posted by switching yard
In Dallas, we have been experiencing a cool front that is forecast to continue through this week, with a high in the 80 - 90F range later in the week. It has also been unseasonably wet --- today, we had a long, cool, soaking rain.

This type of weather is usually not seen in Dallas until late September. I've lived in the area for decades and have never seen or heard of a cool front this strong in the middle of August. Around here, the entire month of August is traditionally triple digits Farenheit every day with a slight chance of a pop-up thunderstorm. Normally, round about late September we start seeing sustained cool fronts with highs in the upper 80's. So, this that we're seeing this week is WAY early. We shouldn't be having a cool front like this for another month.

A mini-ice-age coming up? I don't know but it is strange, indeed.

I live in Fort Worth and yeah, those rains have been nice!
Have noticed the sun isn't as intense as it usually is this time of year? We sure have...

I can only report very early stages of fall in North East TN and South West VA. Nothing too extreme. Mosquito and Spider populations are at a HUGE high right now here though. One local city is even "fogging" whole neighborhoods with a strange mist to control the problem.... That in itself deserves its own thread. Sorry to stray semi off topic,but check this out.

www.wcyb.com...

Originally posted by Thescripter
I can only report very early stages of fall in North East TN and South West VA. Nothing too extreme. Mosquito and Spider populations are at a HUGE high right now here though. One local city is even "fogging" whole neighborhoods with a strange mist to control the problem.... That in itself deserves its own thread. Sorry to stray semi off topic,but check this out.

www.wcyb.com...

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How interesting! Johnson City used to be one of my weekend party destinations, lol. You know in southwest va, east tn area those small town folks gotta travel somewhere to find a little fun! JC was the happening place, LOLOL.

Your not crazy. In NC some of the trees here are already showing signs of fall. Next week is forecasting 80s, that's late September weather but its late August instead.

The seasons are speeding up perhaps, no transitional seasons. Winter to Summer, Summer to Winter, talk about brutal but i seriously doubt that's occurring. Because if it is, i see famine on the horizons.. heh.

not yet here in ma/ri area, but it droped in temp real fast, we had like a 45/55 * morning the other day, and the week before, odd for this time of year , when i walked out side and felt the cold all i could think was pumpkins, lol just reminded me of fall weather, weird thing is, we have been seeing tons and tons of chemtrails, so i dont know if that has anything to do with it either, weird either way


we have also seen geese flying south which is real weird for this time of year, maybe 30 days or so from now is when they usualy start leaving from this area

Not here, I live in Western Canada and summer started out wetter than average and ended up hot all summer long. The farmers are not complaining for once.

The wheat harvest will begin next week, which is rare. My yard is lush and the trees in my backyard have gotten noticably fuller.

Its an el-nina(sp?) year, as was last year. Expect things to go back to normal next year. Well... until next time that is..

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I don't know if it has to do with our drought, but I noticed June beatles coming out as early as late March this year, and crickets are usually abundant toward October and I've seen them already starting to come out and sing, two months earlier than usual in these parts. One of our tress has started to loose it's leaves as well. My best guess is rapid climate change. Interesting how some of the most northern U.S. states have gotten some hotter days than us Texans this summer.

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Ok, just saw this reply tonight. Too dark for pics. Will get one tomorrow afternoon.

There is an old(?) christian tradition called "The changing of the face" or just "The changing" (in ortodox christianity) which is on August 6th, i don't know the story behind it but it coincides with the leaves starting to change color. 1 or maybe two days after the leaves arround my 'hood started changing color so its kind of plausible its not that early.

As we know christianity like many other religions have integrated natural phenomenon into their beliefs.

Here in Southern North Carolina all is green still. In fact the rain has been so prolific that some of the cherry trees here have yellowing leaves due to a bit too much rain. I get up every morning early, a couple hours before sunrise, and have noticed a slightly increasing chill in the mornings. Not so much a chill that is cold, rather a lessening of the night time heat that is the norm. To me, it seems that we are on the edge of the late summer cool down. Of course it is 3/4 the way through August, and it should be slightly cooling. It feels about right. I'd say it maybe feels a couple weeks early kind of.. All in all, it's been a fairly normal year here. The pond hasn't dried any more than usual, it's only went down about 18 inches to 2 foot max so far. It has in past years went down as much as a solid 3 foot from 1 acre down to about three quarters of an acre.

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I grew up in Michigan and lived there for 43 years. I've seen the leaves start to change in August before. It's not "new" and it doesn't indicate doom.

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I can tell the difference between a tree suffereing from drought, a tree suffering from disease, or a tree suffering from age, thanks.

As I stated, there are trees that are suffereing from drought, but as I also stated, my area isn't as hard hit as some. We have only begun looking at a drought problem.

So I can tell when leaves are changing early, as oppossed to stress.

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Did I say doom? My history here will tell you that I don't participate in doom porn. But that doesn't mean that it isn't unusual.

And Michigan is a lot further north, and a lot further west than my area, and a lot different than others. So while it maybe normal for your area, it may not be normal for mine, where trees don't show any signs for at least another month.

The further you go south, the longer the summer is.

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*laughs* so you don't buy any science that can analyze weather more than 300 years ago, yet you accept the same science that says that Antartica was once a tropical destination, trillions of years ago.

For one, Antartica was in a different spot on the planet at the time, so weather would of been normal for its longitude, latitude, and two, the atmosphere was altogether completely different.

And that same history will also tell you that it happens very slowly, no one should be able to witness climate change in their lifetime, it should take thousands of years. Warming or cooling for ice ages took anywhere from between 2-10,000 years, not decades.

Any changes in the environment, whatever the cause, that causes species to not behave in a normal manner, is a cause for concern.