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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by mkmasn
How can someone teach you to be?
If you have to learn how to be, you have become.
There is no becoming because there is no time in which to become.
All appears presently.
This is being.edit on 13-8-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by mkmasn
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by mkmasn
How can someone teach you to be?
If you have to learn how to be, you have become.
There is no becoming because there is no time in which to become.
All appears presently.
This is being.edit on 13-8-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Memories, thoughts, experiences, and understanding teaches you.
You cannot be without understanding being. How do you know it is being if you do not understand it?
You must become in order to be.
All does not appear presently, all appears at once.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by mkmasn
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by mkmasn
How can someone teach you to be?
If you have to learn how to be, you have become.
There is no becoming because there is no time in which to become.
All appears presently.
This is being.edit on 13-8-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Memories, thoughts, experiences, and understanding teaches you.
You cannot be without understanding being. How do you know it is being if you do not understand it?
You must become in order to be.
All does not appear presently, all appears at once.
Knowledge will not teach you to be. Eat from the tree of knowledge or from the tree of life.
Being does not have to become.
Originally posted by mkmasn
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
Originally posted by mkmasn
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by mkmasn
How can someone teach you to be?
If you have to learn how to be, you have become.
There is no becoming because there is no time in which to become.
All appears presently.
This is being.edit on 13-8-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Memories, thoughts, experiences, and understanding teaches you.
You cannot be without understanding being. How do you know it is being if you do not understand it?
You must become in order to be.
All does not appear presently, all appears at once.
Knowledge will not teach you to be. Eat from the tree of knowledge or from the tree of life.
Being does not have to become.
The tree of knowledge and the tree of life are one and the same.
Originally posted by maes2
reply to post by mkmasn
I am again confused. is there any Buda or there is not. you spoke about that there are many Gods. but now you are in doubt about being itself !
Originally posted by maes2
reply to post by mkmasn
I am again confused. is there any Buda or there is not. you spoke about that there are many Gods. but now you are in doubt about being itself !
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by mkmasn
However you do not know you are being.
Originally posted by mkmasn
Enlightenment is the ultimate knowledge. Until one reaches enlightenment, one cannot understand the state of being, or existence, or life. When one does reach enlightenment, one effectively becomes God.
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by mkmasn
Maybe you do not know you are being because you believe that one has to be good. Good is a goal. It is something to become. You 'are' already. You do not have to be 'something' (good). You just are.
Look to the 'I am'.
edit on 13-8-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by mkmasn
"Realizing you are God and becoming God are two different things, and I would assume one must practice in order to become God, so pray away!"
If you are God who are you praying to?
You 'assume' you have to practice to become God.
Realizing you are God is all you can hope to do.
God wakes up when God wakes up and not until.
Originally posted by maes2
Originally posted by mkmasn
Enlightenment is the ultimate knowledge. Until one reaches enlightenment, one cannot understand the state of being, or existence, or life. When one does reach enlightenment, one effectively becomes God.
yes of course. these are familiar to me. I prefer to call it Mysticism. it is in all religions and not just in Buddhism. but again I think there is a point. Ultimate knowledge. yes human can even goes beyond this world but as you stated """effectively becomes God""' human can not becomes the exact God. because I think Ultimate is Ultimate because it is beyond the reach of human. even our minds can not imagine it. so I prefer to worship and call something a God that is exactly the ultimate. because even me and you can become a Buddha. so I do not want to worship myself or what I can reach that.I just respect that and think about it's teachings.
Originally posted by maes2
Originally posted by mkmasn
Enlightenment is the ultimate knowledge. Until one reaches enlightenment, one cannot understand the state of being, or existence, or life. When one does reach enlightenment, one effectively becomes God.
yes of course. these are familiar to me. I prefer to call it Mysticism. it is in all religions and not just in Buddhism. but again I think there is a point. Ultimate knowledge. yes human can even goes beyond this world but as you stated """effectively becomes God""' human can not becomes the exact God. because I think Ultimate is Ultimate because it is beyond the reach of human. even our minds can not imagine it. so I prefer to worship and call something a God that is exactly the ultimate. because even me and you can become a Buddha. so I do not want to worship myself or what I can reach that.I just respect that and think about it's teachings.
Originally posted by mkmasn
And you cannot teach me to be, as you have said. I must learn it myself, the same way Siddhartha had to learn it, the same way Jesus had to learn it, the same way the prophet Muhammed had to learn it, the same way Abraham had to learn it.