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Originally posted by TheSubversiveOne
Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
may very well be the pseudo-philosophical basis for the major acts of mass murder and genocide to be perpetrated during the 21st century
If this sensationalist nonsense helps you sleep better at night, so you can enjoy your dreams in peace, then by all means, paint as many people as you can with your genocidal dictator brush. If I was daft enough, I could do the same to you and Hitler, countless Inquisitors, terrorists, Joseph Coney, Idi Amin, boy-touching preachers etc etc etc but that would be absurd.
You're not the first one to draw people under your banners by attempting to use fear tactics.
Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
...and by the way, what exactly do think you are subverting if i may ask?
Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
and i'm sure many thought the same as you until they became victims of a pseudo philosophy that declares people as mere material things.
and i am not drawing anybody under any banners projection much
merely pointing out that what the OP is espousing is old nonsense
that's been gussied up and repackaged
and by the way, what exactly do think you are subverting if i may ask?
Originally posted by TheJourney
You heard it right! I am sorry to disappoint all you spiritual people out there. Everything is physical! There is no such thing as transcendence of physicality. What we call spiritual existence, or higher planes of reality, are simply more complex, and more subtle, levels of physical reality.
Originally posted by TheSubversiveOne
Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
and i'm sure many thought the same as you until they became victims of a pseudo philosophy that declares people as mere material things.
and i am not drawing anybody under any banners projection much
merely pointing out that what the OP is espousing is old nonsense
that's been gussied up and repackaged
1-And you declare people are illusions.What's the difference?
2-....including some of the greatest minds in this century and the last to Mao and Stalin.
www.orthodoxytoday.org...
This, science's Ultimate Skepticism, has been spreading ever since then. Over the past two years even Darwinism, a sacred tenet among American scientists for the past seventy years, has been beset by...doubts. Scientists—not religiosi—notably the mathematician David Berlinski ("The Deniable Darwin," Commentary, June 1996) and the biochemist Michael Behe (Darwin's Black Box, 1996), have begun attacking Darwinism as a mere theory, not a scientific discovery, a theory woefully unsupported by fossil evidence and featuring, at the core of its logic, sheer mush. (Dennett and Dawkins, for whom Darwin is the Only Begotten, the Messiah, are already screaming. They're beside themselves, utterly apoplectic. Wilson, the giant, keeping his cool, has remained above the battle.) By 1990 the physicist Petr Beckmann of the University of Colorado had already begun going after Einstein. He greatly admired Einstein for his famous equation of matter and energy, E=mc2, but called his theory of relativity mostly absurd and grotesquely untestable. Beckmann died in 1993. His Fool Killer's cudgel has been taken up by Howard Hayden of the University of Connecticut, who has many admirers among the upcoming generation of Ultimately Skeptical young physicists. The scorn the new breed heaps upon quantum mechanics ("has no real–world applications"..."depends entirely on fairies sprinkling goofball equations in your eyes"), Unified Field Theory ("Nobel worm bait"), and the Big Bang Theory ("creationism for nerds") has become withering. If only Nietzsche were alive! He would have relished every minute of it!
Originally posted by BlueMule
Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
...and by the way, what exactly do think you are subverting if i may ask?
What do you got?
Originally posted by TheJourney[/i
The acute reader will understand the implications, and will likely associate this with the law of attraction. That is correct, upon analysis you can see this as a working mechanism behind the law of attraction. Once we have established some of the implications of what I am saying, which may have at first seemed anti-spiritual and materialistic, I will have to now apologize to the materialist. What I am speaking of is, in a way, very strict materialism, but this mode of thought followed to its end leads to what has been called spiritual, though is not truly non-physical. What I am speaking of is physcal in the strict sense, relativistic, quantum, uncertain. An update to our understanding of what 'physical' actually means demonstrates no contradiction between the physical reality of materialists and the transcendental realities of the spiritualists.edit on 30-7-2012 by TheJourney because: (no reason given)edit on 30-7-2012 by TheJourney because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
oh look! what the "great minds are saying:
www.orthodoxytoday.org...
This, science's Ultimate Skepticism, has been spreading ever since then. Over the past two years even Darwinism, a sacred tenet among American scientists for the past seventy years, has been beset by...doubts. Scientists—not religiosi—notably the mathematician David Berlinski ("The Deniable Darwin," Commentary, June 1996) and the biochemist Michael Behe (Darwin's Black Box, 1996), have begun attacking Darwinism as a mere theory, not a scientific discovery, a theory woefully unsupported by fossil evidence and featuring, at the core of its logic, sheer mush. (Dennett and Dawkins, for whom Darwin is the Only Begotten, the Messiah, are already screaming. They're beside themselves, utterly apoplectic. Wilson, the giant, keeping his cool, has remained above the battle.) By 1990 the physicist Petr Beckmann of the University of Colorado had already begun going after Einstein. He greatly admired Einstein for his famous equation of matter and energy, E=mc2, but called his theory of relativity mostly absurd and grotesquely untestable. Beckmann died in 1993. His Fool Killer's cudgel has been taken up by Howard Hayden of the University of Connecticut, who has many admirers among the upcoming generation of Ultimately Skeptical young physicists. The scorn the new breed heaps upon quantum mechanics ("has no real–world applications"..."depends entirely on fairies sprinkling goofball equations in your eyes"), Unified Field Theory ("Nobel worm bait"), and the Big Bang Theory ("creationism for nerds") has become withering. If only Nietzsche were alive! He would have relished every minute of it!
PS: DerepentLEstranger = [french] suddenly, a stranger
edit on 30-7-2012 by DerepentLEstranger because: (no reason given)