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P. G.'s Reptilian Experience

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posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 08:15 AM
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The following was first reported in a group I belong to in March. Since then, I have had numerous email communication and a phone conversation with him that I recorded. I am in the process of transcribing it now. I plan on posting it upon completion. At this point he has always seemed sincere and it seems he is telling the truth. He is also willing to speak with people about this and try to get to the bottom of what is going on underneath Carthage, Missiouri. His only requirement is that the individuals are serious, sincere and professional. Let me know if anyone is interested. There are many interesting points to this story. Does anything ring true with anyone? I'll let you be the judge.

Reported March 8, 2004

This past Sunday...the 7th. A friend and I were riding two ATVs in a place called, "The Underground" it is a public and private storage facility in Carthage, Mo. What makes this place such a desirable storage facility is that it is all underground...hence the name. They are constantly expanding this place and there are miles and miles of carved out caves in there...and it goes pretty deep. This facility stores thousands and thousands of food containers, all dehydrated for the Navy...I have seen them and it is public knowledge around here. It is also a fall out shelter able to hold some 40,000 to 50,000 people. I tell you this to give some sense of the vastness of the place. I worked there as a subcontractor some 9 years ago...I helped build the office spaces up on top. I started to explore then...about once a month and did so all the way until this past Sunday. However, I never went as far or as deep before either.

It was fun to take the ATVs and cruise underground...no rain or weather problems...ever. We were approx 8 miles in and I'd say maybe 500 feet deep when we took a turn down an area that was marked "Naval Authoritative Zone" I remember making a comment about the Navy getting a ship down there and said that was an easy posting. The walls became more defined as in: polished or finished and this was striking because this was supposed to be a newly blasted area...totally backward I would think...still thinking nothing was wrong we kept going, actually increasing speed because the floor was paved now and we could go faster. We came up on an unusual painted pattern on the floor and I thought, "cool graffiti...kids have been down here...we're safe...won't get into any trouble." The road dipped down and then it took a 90' turn to the left...we had no warning and we were going too fast. I knew we were going to hit the wall. BUT we DIDN'T...we passed through some kind of projection of the cave siding...although I don't know how it was done...it was real looking.

We passed into a whole new road system...this one was large, and much older than where we came from. We started to smell an odor...musty,damp, growing stronger as we went deeper on smell. The lighting decreased as well probably 60% less than the other area's...we turned on our headlights. We continued on at about 5 to 7 miles an hour for about 5 min and we noticed it was getting cooler...which was to me, very strange...since once inside a cave a certain distance...the temp says the same. We made a right turn and started to come up on what I thought was a rest area on the side...about 40 feet away. I thought it looked like a pair of fountains until they moved.

We both stopped immediately. We were approx. 30' feet away now and what we saw were two creatures, one was very tall at least 7' feet maybe more and very powerfully built...reddish in color and the other was smaller about 6' feet but it was not red in color but pale, like an albino and it was not as powerfully built as the other. They looked like REPTILES...living, walking, intelligent beings...not human...not warm blooded. Reptiles! I know it sounds crazy but it is true. They said nothing but I did get a strong sense from the big one. A malevolence, evil presence of some kind. My friend screamed and we turned around...a power turn. We started to go back out when my friend said, "the big one" was after us. I looked back and it was following us. I had the overwhelming feeling that if it caught us that harm would come to us. We passed through the wall projection and I looked back and saw the thing raise it's arm and it had a weapon of some sorts. It fired and hit the ATV my friend was on. The engine died and he stopped. I told him to jump on...and he did. I gunned it and then my friend said, "STOP!" I slowed down and he he said, "LOOK!". I looked back and the thing had stopped at the graffiti on the cave floor/road. The ATV was on it's side of the graffiti/symbol. It was obvious the thing would not cross the marking. I slowed more...we were now about 75' feet away. I stopped and the three of us...Me, my friend and the creature/reptile/man thing just looked at each other...for about 15 sec. And let me tell you...that is a long time. Then I started to leave...It stayed there waiting and not moving until we were out of sight.

As soon as we cleared the cave I got on my cell phone and called the Sheriff's Dept. I was told that they would not come out and that "Underground Security" would handle it. Then they hung up! By law they are not to do that...We can hang up on
anyone...but a government office, be it City or Federal can not hang up on you. Anyway, I was shocked and scared and we took off across the outside of the underground over to my truck and sure enough...Underground Security was waiting for us. We were told to leave, not to tell anybody about this...that if I come back...The Navy would press charges. I was also told that I had 10 min to leave or I would be taken in. What can I say...we left. It has been 3 days since this has happened and I am still shaken.

I am a powerful person, 6'4" and 265 lbs and I have never in my life be afraid for my life...until this past Sunday. I lost my one of my two ATV's.Vin#5y4Ag0o1y61a071120. As far as I know...it is still down there. My friend will not talk about it and I have not heard anything from anyone about it. I did call the Sheriff's Dept. and they said they never got a call from me. Well, that is my story...I have never had anything strange happen in my life and I am very very concerned about this. I can tell you this...I had an urge to kill the things I saw down there...I don't know if that is a natural reaction as most people have a natural revulsion towards reptiles or because of my faith and the feeling of evil I had...or what. All I know is that they are real...and I wish I could do something...anything to combat or help against these things. Take care all and thank you again for letting me write this and share this experience.

[edit on 29-9-2004 by thirddensity]



posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 08:38 AM
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One 7 feet tall and the other 6 feet eh.....


I know what you found! its not reptillians though........


You found..... BAT MANS SECRET CAVE!!! You actually saw Bruce and Robin



posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 08:50 AM
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It has been said that for the truth to exist, it takes two people - one to speak it...and another to hear it. Mankind will be forever doomed to destruction if we continue to ask for the truth...but then refuse to listen.



posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 08:55 AM
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I wholeheartedly agree Project Pisces. And that is exactly why I followed up with him. I cannot sit back and watch the show move on. I have to search for myself to understand what is going on. We are the masters of our ship and the captains of our soul.

In Truth.



posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 08:55 AM
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His story seems a wee bit....um ....fake. The whole looking back and staring at the reptillian for 15 seconds pfffft okay man you also forgot the death rays and the little green men. And why would the repitillians be simply just standing their waiting for some one to see them, they would have heard your loud as$ ATVS miles before you got there.



posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 09:02 AM
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If they were clod blooded surely they would wnt a warm place to live?



posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 09:04 AM
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Hello RATT. I respect everyones opinion. To help me understand yours, can you answer a two-fold question for me? You said: "His story seems a bit fake".

1. Can you give me your definition of real so I can understand how you decide what to believe and not believe?

2. Saying it seems a "wee bit" fake implies that the majority is believable. Is this an accurate statement?



posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 09:07 AM
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And why would the repitillians be simply just standing their waiting for some one to see them, they would have heard your loud as$ ATVS miles before you got there.


Perhaps they were waiting patiently for them (like a snake), to cross the "seal" and wander into the ambush site.

MK



posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 09:16 AM
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Personally, I thought it was a very great story...very detailed and entertaining. Beleivable? Maybe not, but that is not the point. A story like that could never really be accepted just being told. It's a little too fantastic IMO. Heck, even if you got a huge gropu to head back down into the cave, and took video and pictures, the story would still be severly scrutinized. In the end, this will fall under the "you had to be there" catagory.



posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 09:16 AM
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Well I think the story is just odd... Why didnt both give chase? Why would he stop by the marker, its not like there was anyone there to tell him otherwise (even assuming the marker marked their territory, I think he could easily have run passed it a while). Why didnt it use the weapon earlier? How come they never heard anything (in a cave they should have heard ATVs LOOOOONG before they arrive). Also you'd think that such an entrance would have an... uhm... DOOR... instead of a projected wall... Its not like it would have been any difference, except the door would require far less energy and be much much safer for them. That little thing seems to me as redundant as the aerodynamic spaceship


[edit on 29-9-2004 by merka]



posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by thirddensity
Hello RATT. I respect everyones opinion. To help me understand yours, can you answer a two-fold question for me? You said: "His story seems a bit fake".

1. Can you give me your definition of real so I can understand how you decide what to believe and not believe?

2. Saying it seems a "wee bit" fake implies that the majority is believable. Is this an accurate statement?




Why are you asking me this? SO you can improve the next story you make up?



Alright Reptillians and aliens living beneath us ....come on theirs already been a thread about that, just scroll down and you can read my opinions there.

I said a wee bit becuase their probally is a fall out shelter were you live but the story got hella unrealistic up to the point were you made contact and a death ray knocked out your friends atv and you "Gunned" it lol.

Let me ask you this

How old are you?

Why should we believe you?

Your story is amongst many others whats unique about yours?

You have no proof to back up your story only thing we can do is call your sheriff and ask if you really called but he would probally say no since you never actually made a call.



posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 10:28 AM
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RATT, please reread the first paragraph. THIS IS NOT MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. I am reporting it to everyone here, that's all. If you're going to point accusatory fingers at someone, make sure you know what you're talking about.

Now to answer your questions:

"How old are you?"

I am 30.

"Why should we believe you?"

Are you everyone's spokesmen now? My intentions were not for anyone to believe me. Again, reread it. My last sentance in the opening paragraph states, I'll let you be the judge. If you want to believe or disbelieve is your choice. Do your own research and make up your own mind instead of thinking with the collective.

"Your story is amongst many others whats unique about yours?"

While some things appear similiar whith a single glance, everything in the universe is unique upon closer scrutiny.

" You have no proof to back up your story only thing we can do is call your sheriff and ask if you really called but he would probally say no since you never actually made a call."

I never said I had any proof. I posted the piece to gather ohters thought, ideas, and impressions. RATT, believe it or not, there is a box around you. Start thinking outside of it. I'll even give you a lead. Instead of presuming about what the sherriff would say, why don't YOU call and ask. From what I've gathered, Carthage is a pretty small town. Just make sure you let everyone here know what you find out.

Be well RATT, and may peace be unto your soul.



posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 10:45 AM
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Hi thirddensity,

That is a very interesting story.

Regardless of what we think, if you feel that the person who reported the story to you is credible, then I would advise that person to have nothing to do with the authorities in regard to this case because he will not receive any assistance or confirmation from them.

Secondly, perhaps you could get the eyewitnesses (or at least one of them) to agree to answer questions either through you or have them do so directly in this forum.

That would help with the credibility problem in here.



[edit on 29-9-2004 by Paul_Richard]



posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 10:50 AM
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Ratt, please stop acting like a troll. If you have something to contribute, then do so, otherwise don't.

The story is certainly fantastic, I have heard of such stories about the underground reptillians, however to date, there is little to no proof of their existence. I can only treat them as a speculative exercise.



posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 10:53 AM
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interesting story. if it is indeed real, i would love for someone to venture in there and take some pics. im really interested in seeing the graffiti on the cave floor. Any chance that it resembled some type of snake?



posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 10:57 AM
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Great story, but sorry, no, i cannot believe anything without proof. Well done. Maybe reptilians are real, maybe they are not, who knows. As far as i know, nowadays its way "cooler" to build stuff underground not reaching the sky. Who knows...



posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 11:00 AM
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Ok this could take some serious work but if you want proof then you'll do this. So I am sitting here reading this and the guy that posted before me says the sherrif will probably say "no, no one called" to cover it up. Well how about we get that sherrifs number and someone call in pretending to be a psychiatrist and say one of their patients is extremely ?? (some weird condition)... then talk about how your patient has been rambling on about encountering some creature in a cave. mention that he says he called this department and somehow say like you are calling to apologize for his behavior as he just was given a new dosage prior that day. make it seem very sincere and apologetic but at the same time try to get them to say that he did actually call and ya he sounded crazy..whats wrong with him? blah blah blah.

can you see where im getting at? (it sounded better in my head i sware haha)



posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 11:06 AM
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Now remember...not all reptilians can be seen. Even when its standing right in front of you.

I like it when you can see them in a person though......

See:



Elisha Cara is probably one of the coolest Reptoids I have seen. I wouldnt mess with him
Might bite ya in half..literally.

See story:
Two alleged Mossad agents freed from New Zealand jail
By Yossi Melman, Haaretz Correspondent, Haaretz Service and Agencies
www.haaretz.com...



posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 01:41 PM
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project_pisces wrote:


It has been said that for the truth to exist, it takes two people - one to speak it...and another to hear it. Mankind will be forever doomed to destruction if we continue to ask for the truth...but then refuse to listen.


Yes, I agree. One problem is that people who feel inclined to listen will back down once lines like "... youre one of the most gullible person I know if you ACTUALLY BELIVE THAT BS!" are spoken/typed.
We police each other.
Im not much better myself, Im not telling one single person who I know
just exactly what I believe, only choice cuts. Id be alienating myself socialy quicker than you could say "potato"!

The day the Reptilians make their official entrance will be a sad day, yet also positive as we will finally see some of whats been going down for a LONG time.

I might get some flack for that last sentance. Thats ok should it happen, Ive seen it happen to others and it will happen again, it comes with the subject.



posted on Sep, 29 2004 @ 02:13 PM
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thirddensity,

It's unfortunate that those people are the only ones who witnessed the "tree fall in the forest", if you get my drift? Just because no one else witnessed it doesn't mean that it didn't happen.

We are, in part, creatures of experience. So, without witnessing or experiencing the event ourselves, we are either ignorant that there is more than meets our senses (a serious human weakness), or...you're a great writer of fiction.

Thanks for posting the experience.






[edit on 29-9-2004 by evilution]



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