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Originally posted by zigoapex
Obama = stronger middle class, more american companies, investment in America, end of corruption.
PRINCETON, NJ -- The historically high gap between partisans' job approval ratings of Barack Obama continued during Obama's third year in office, with an average of 80% of Democrats and 12% of Republicans approving of the job he was doing.
He just sent 15000 troops to Kuiwat , must be for a weeks at Club Med. 3 Aircraft Carriers enjoying the Sea air in Hormuz, Thats a Peace President.
Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by Tw0Sides
Ever kept a promise you couldn't keep, but wanted to? I have....despite everything in my power not to do so. I'm sorry, i just don't think Obama wants to send people to their death. His recent actions prove to me he wants to get us out of these wars.....no...he's not going to pull out the troops in all the military bases.....but he is pulling troops in combat action home....and that's better than what we will get with a Republican President.
I could never be President. I've read things about Lyndon Johnson...who everyday asked his advisors, "How many of our boys did we lose today?" He was utterly devasted for the loss of life. I can't imagine bearing that burden for the good of our country.
Originally posted by sonnny1
I vote for who I think is the right candidate. I sleep better that way,Regardless if its D,R,or I....At least I can ALWAYS say my convictions stand true. Think about it.
So Mr Obama,why not repeal Most Favored Nation Status? How about NAFTA,CAFTA?
Originally posted by zigoapex
Obama = stronger middle class, more american companies, investment in America, end of corruption.
GOP = 1%,The wealthy, will be in power, no more middle class, more investment in oversea business, more taxes for the working class, more money for oil companies,no research for green energy, MORE WARS STARTED OVER MONEY AND POWER !!!
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by sonnny1
Originally posted by sonnny1
I vote for who I think is the right candidate. I sleep better that way,Regardless if its D,R,or I....At least I can ALWAYS say my convictions stand true. Think about it.
Knowing David as I do, I think I can safely say that he would agree with this completely, as do I. Neither of us are partisan. I vote for who I think is the right candidate, too, regardless of their party. I don't know why you would assume otherwise. David is clearly voting for who he thinks is the right candidate for what's important to him.
Originally posted by sonnny1
I looked at the points he made. I gave counterpoints. I just dont know how ANYONE picks the lessors of 2 EVILS. Are they still not EVIL?
But we noted at the time that Pelosi had cherry-picked the data, choosing a time frame favorable to Obama. If she'd instead chosen to start from the beginning of Obama's term -- rather than half way through his first two years -- she would have been stuck with a net loss of 3.4 million private-sector jobs, not the increase of 777,000 she came up with for the first eight months of 2010. Pelosi essentially started counting from the low point for jobs and only counted the upward part of the trendline.
Meanwhile, the start and end points she used for Bush give the former president no such break. The jobs picture under Bush looked like an arc, heading generally upward through mid 2007 before heading downward again. If she had used only the upward portion of the arc, as she did for Obama, it would have showed a gain of roughly 4 million private-sector jobs.
but she continues to conveniently ignore the first year of the Obama administration. If you take the entirety of Obama’s term -- January 2009 to August 2011 -- the nation has lost 1.8 million jobs, which is still worse than what happened under Bush.
Another 2.6 million people slipped into poverty in the United States last year, the Census Bureau reported Tuesday, and the number of Americans living below the official poverty line, 46.2 million people, was the highest number in the 52 years the bureau has been publishing figures on it.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
This is important, because the GOP establishment needs to realize that voters like you exist. Actually MANY voters like you exist!! We aren't going to just vote for the GOP candidate, just because they march one out there and declare him the anti-Obama.
We will either be voting for a candidate we can actually support, or not voting at all, or actually voting opposite of our conscience just to get the ball rolling on the collapse of this government.
In your case, it seems you think Obama is the lesser of the evils, and I cannot disagree with that. Personally, I've vowed to never vote for the lesser of the evils again, but I'm not knocking your decision.
BUT, what if the GOP did get smart? What if they actually nominated Paul, and put him with a great running mate like Christie? And named a great cabinet with Kucinich, and Huntsman, and maybe Powell?
Originally posted by Muttley2012
Originally posted by sonnny1
I looked at the points he made. I gave counterpoints. I just dont know how ANYONE picks the lessors of 2 EVILS. Are they still not EVIL?
Maybe I missed it, but where did David say he was voting for the lesser of 2 evils? What I took away from the OP is that he is voting for the better candidate.
better candidate ≠ lesser of 2 evils
Originally posted by Flatfish
reply to post by Tw0Sides
Maybe you posted the wrong video but I watched it twice and he never said one damn word about bringing any troops home at any time, not it that video!