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WHEN THEY ARE READY, ie actually able to compute the ramifications of holding a particular belief, and having some adult real world experience to leverage against what is truthfully ,simply, mythology.
Whether or not that is what a person actually teaches, it's how the kid interprets it that has the actual impact.
Hindus believe that Krishna was the eighth "avatar" or incarnation of the god Vishnu - one of the Hindu deities in the Hindu trinity. Hindu scriptures state that Krishna "appeared in all the fullness of his power and glory." Krishna was born sometime between 900 and 1200 B.C. and his religious teachings can be found in the Bhagavad-Gita, one of the sacred texts in Hinduism. The karmic similarities between Jesus and the Hindu messiah named Krishna (1200 B.C.) are many. There over one hundred similarities between the Hindu and Christian saviors which could easily fill a volume. Some of these similarities are apocryphal which means their source comes from the extra-canonical scriptures of Hinduism.
Hence at the heart of the argument is the idea that the Gospel stories that we have all known, loved, eagerly recited and reposed our faith in--from the manger in Bethlehem to the crucifixion at Golgotha and beyond, to the resurrection and ascent to heaven--rather than representing the Jesus of history are actually proclamations of the Jesus of faith: What Christian communities outside Israel had come to believe about Jesus after 70 AD.
Along these lines, it is quite certain that neither Jesus nor his disciples had any idea of him being the awaited Messiah, the Christ, God incarnate, the second person of the Trinity, or the savior bringing mankind salvation through his self-sacrifice at Calvary.
Originally posted by FocusedWolf
Anyone ever go to catholic school and be forced to confess to a priest when you had committed no sin. It happened to me. Naturally what else could i do, i had to go lie to a priest about some sin that i didn't commit!
In other words, the immediate followers of Jesus were not Christians. Nor was Jesus one.
With much of Christianity's most essential theological concepts being called into question--Soteriology (Jesus as the suffering savior) as much as Christology (Jesus as the divine second person of the Trinity)--Christianity is facing a major doctrinal crisis.
And, oddly enough, an incredible opportunity for revival...
Provided it could free itself from its superficial theological constructs that since the days of Paul have been superimposed and grafted onto the simple and perfect teachings of the Jesus of history.
Christianity has yet to discover the transcendental dimensions of God consciousness (or Krishna consciousness) possessed by Jesus, its founder, who declared: "The kingdom of God does not come with your careful observation, nor will people say, 'It is here,' or 'It is there.' The kingdom of God is within you" (Luke 17:21).
Along these lines, it is quite certain that neither Jesus nor his disciples had any idea of him being the awaited Messiah, the Christ, God incarnate, the second person of the Trinity
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by wildtimes
Along these lines, it is quite certain that neither Jesus nor his disciples had any idea of him being the awaited Messiah, the Christ, God incarnate, the second person of the Trinity
Its fantastic you noticed this about hinduism...
The trinity is a lie my friend...
Originally posted by gabby2011
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Anybody who thinks they haven't made a sin.. is in some serious self denial..
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Welcome to the first and only website
devoted to the original Buddhist sources
of the New Testament Gospels
The 27 books of the New Testament, as known, constitute the fundamental holy scripture of Christianity.
Without the four Gospels according to Matthew, to Mark, to Luke and to John, Christianity is virtually null and void.
Recent epoch-making discoveries of old Sanskrit manuscripts in Central Asia and Kashmir provide decisive proof that the four Greek Gospels have been translated directly from the Sanskrit.
A careful comparison, word by word, sentence by sentence, shows that the Christian Gospels are Pirate-copies of the Buddhist Gospels (combined, of course, with words from the OT). God's word, therefore, is originally Buddha's word.
Comparison reveals that there is no person, no event, no locality mentioned in the four Christian Gospels not already present in the Buddhist Gospels that are, for sure, far earlier in time than their Christian copies.
Gabby, and anyone else following our conversation, please understand that I am not trying to be oppositional, or confrontational....or destroy your faith, or call you liars....but consider that I am, in my way, attempting to show you some clues to the actual truth as I believe it, just as you are trying to show me.
That is my belief.... there is so much that I have to learn ..but I am trusting in the Holy Spirit to lead me..and placing my faith in the sacred and immaculate hearts for protection and guidance.
Everything in my mind and heart screams false when you type your "teaching"..so will go with what my heart tells me.
gabby!! Are you honestly saying you will accuse a child of sin just because they are a child. Do you NOT think it is possible for a child to go ONE week without sin??
Some weeks we went on a fishing trip, some weeks we did not. I believe children can benefit MUCH more from that negative/positive reinforcement rather than being told EVERY DAY that they are SINNERS.
Originally posted by wildtimes
and.....here we are!
Jesus is Buddha
Welcome to the first and only website
devoted to the original Buddhist sources
of the New Testament Gospels
The 27 books of the New Testament, as known, constitute the fundamental holy scripture of Christianity.
Without the four Gospels according to Matthew, to Mark, to Luke and to John, Christianity is virtually null and void.
Recent epoch-making discoveries of old Sanskrit manuscripts in Central Asia and Kashmir provide decisive proof that the four Greek Gospels have been translated directly from the Sanskrit.
A careful comparison, word by word, sentence by sentence, shows that the Christian Gospels are Pirate-copies of the Buddhist Gospels (combined, of course, with words from the OT). God's word, therefore, is originally Buddha's word.
Comparison reveals that there is no person, no event, no locality mentioned in the four Christian Gospels not already present in the Buddhist Gospels that are, for sure, far earlier in time than their Christian copies.
Originally posted by gabby2011
......... it will be the Holy Trinity that teaches us all .......
Originally posted by gabby2011
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have you ever watched a room full of toddlers playing? Have you ever seen a child go up to another and whack them on the head with the toy truck they have....just because they felt like it?
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Recent epoch-making discoveries of old Sanskrit manuscripts in Central Asia and Kashmir provide decisive proof that the four Greek Gospels have been translated directly from the Sanskrit.
Again we are all free to choose whatever path we want but Christ promises you many things that neither Buddah nor any other religion can.
YOU are telling me. God is not telling me. I have enjoyed God's presence within myself...and yes, I am still looking, sac, with all due respect; on what authority or spiritual seniority do you deem yourself the holder of the truth? Just because you say so is good enough? And then fault me for looking for it still, outside of what YOU are telling me?
I am telling you that the seperation of the spirit and body by God's power is true but you are still looking for the truth.
I appreciate you saying that I am not lying (finally). I am not.
So, what if.....just what if....the Holy Spirit is speaking to you through me?. Are you just going to ignore it? Those passages tell you that Jesus said no one should "prophetize" in his name...but your Maria D Mercy lady is doing excatly that, and you believe her. Doesn't that make you one of those who he will reject? What if you following her makes you one of those who on the day you meet your Maker hears "I never knew you."
Originally posted by vogon42
Originally posted by gabby2011
......... it will be the Holy Trinity that teaches us all .......
OK, I am certain just a few days ago you were saying
"Jesus is the one true god"
and the holy trinity is bogus
Today you believe in the holy trinity.
Why does your belief change from day to day?
So, today....holy trinity....a few days ago.....jesus is the one and ONLY. Why the change in opinion......hey, are you a politician.
Originally posted by vogon42
Originally posted by gabby2011
......... it will be the Holy Trinity that teaches us all .......
OK, I am certain just a few days ago you were saying
"Jesus is the one true god"
and the holy trinity is bogus
Today you believe in the holy trinity.
Why does your belief change from day to day?
So, today....holy trinity....a few days ago.....jesus is the one and ONLY. Why the change in opinion......hey, are you a politician.