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Originally posted by soficrow
reply to post by Section31
How about competition? United States thrives as a competitive nation. Once they remove the reward system, no one will be motivated to do anything. Its a conundrum for this generation.
The idea of "competition" in Western society is pathologically manipulated. Many viable cultures successfully promote and support the idea of "competing" with oneself, not others. Healthy, imho. Competing with others is a no-win game - there's always someone richer, smarter, bigger, faster, with more stuff. Breeds discontent, destroys joy.
Also imho, the most wonderful life occurs when one can enjoy one's work - pursue one's interests, excel in that context - and still feed, clothe and shelter oneself and one's family.
It's sad when the only legitimate/recognized "rewards" are material - life really has so much more to offer.
Originally posted by Section31
Originally posted by UnitedSpiritualAlliance
Wow that is really not going to help anything. It's better to bring the wealthy to justice by finding lawyers who actually care (lol) about the protests and will go pro-bono (lol) (that's going to take the skills of a lawyer to convince one to do as such!)
You painted the wealthy with a broad brush.
Pretend this is the tax bracket:
(10% tax across the board).
$20,000 (per year) x 10% tax (.10) = $2,000 owed in taxes. - Lower Class
$30,000 (per year) x 10% tax (.10) = $3,000 owed in taxes.
$60,000 (per year) x 10% tax (.10) = $6,000 owed in taxes. - Middle Class
$100,000 (per year) x 10% (.10) = $10,000 owed in taxes.
$250,000 (per year) x 10% (.10) = $25,000 owed in taxes. Upper Class
$1.0 million (per year) x 10% (.10) = $100,000 owed in taxes. - Top 2% - Wealthy Class
Who is paying more taxes?
While "OccupyWallStreet"' and the president are saying one thing, the reality behind class warfare is something entirely different. Top 2% pay more taxes than all the other classes combined.
Using the actual and current tax scale: My uncle made $1.0 million dollars last year, and he had to pay $400,000 of it toward taxes.
How much are you paying in taxes?
edit on 10/7/2011 by Section31 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by sligtlyskeptical
The solution isn't violence. Why not just tax the wealth of the super wealthy at 10% a year. Over a few decades their control would dwindle. They would still be left pretty wealthy, but not to the same scale they are now.
Originally posted by Thestargateisreal
reply to post by Section31
Actually, in Star Trek, things got very, very, bad before they got any better. The Star Trek way of life came to be, in that fictional universe, because there was simply no other way to keep humanity alive.
Originally posted by ipsedixit
This game is put together by society as a whole. There has to be a limit to which the wealthy can cannibalize the rest of society.
The idea of "competition" in Western society is pathologically manipulated. Many viable cultures successfully promote and support the idea of "competing" with oneself, not others. Healthy, imho. Competing with others is a no-win game - there's always someone richer, smarter, bigger, faster, with more stuff. Breeds discontent, destroys joy.
Also imho, the most wonderful life occurs when one can enjoy one's work - pursue one's interests, excel in that context - and still feed, clothe and shelter oneself and one's family.
It's sad when the only legitimate/recognized "rewards" are material - life really has so much more to offer.
Originally posted by fooks
what are you suggesting? the friggin game be rigged?
Originally posted by TinfoilTP
Originally posted by Biigs
I see this as one of the many looming problems thats about to errupt soon.
Would it be so bad if there was a max limit for personel wealth, before it becomes dangerous for the country that individual lives in due to the rich mans wealth respect and influence (also on the street side, celebraty value).
Once you hit 500m, is there really anything you cant do when you 'only' had 250m?
Besides buy a bigger island....
How is one like Soros expected to take over the world with a paltry 500 million??? He already gave out over a billion in his quest for power and needs more.
Originally posted by Partygirl
Originally posted by Taupin Desciple
That e-mail is a joke. Whether it was meant to be serious or planted by someone to cause an uprising........it's a joke. One Million dollars makes you rich? Maybe in Uganda. But certainly not in America.
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A million doesn't make you rich?!?! I'm pretty sure if you total up all the money I will be able to earn in my lifetime it will not reach $1 MM. (unless we have hyperinflation lol).
But hey, if you say so...then I suppose you wouldn't mind paypalling me a million...heck, a hundred thousand would be just fine. Even ten thousand will do. I'll take a hundred, why not. Can you spare me $25 until next payday? Cup of coffee?
edit on 6-10-2011 by Partygirl because: (no reason given)