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To my bath, the brothers of the bridal chamber carry the torches,
(here) in our halls, they hunger for the [true] banquets,
even while praising the Father and glorifying the Son.
There (with the Father and the Son) is the only spring and source of truth.
The mysteries of truth are revealed, though in type and image. The bridal chamber, however, remains hidden. It is the Holy in the Holy. The veil at first concealed how God controlled the creation, but when the veil is rent and the things inside are revealed, this house will be left desolate, or rather will be destroyed. And the whole (inferior) godhead will flee from here, but not into the holies of the holies, for it will not be able to mix with the unmixed light and the flawless fullness, but will be under the wings of the cross and under its arms...
I am Theophila, short-lived daughter of Hecateus. The ghosts of the unmarried dead were courting me, a young maiden, for marriage, Hades outstripped the others and seized me, for he desired me, looking upon me as a Persephone more desirable than Persephone. And when he carved the letters on her tombstone, he wept for the girl Theophila from Sinope, her father Hecateus, who composed the wedding torches not for marriage but for Hades...
"Those kinds of things I find particularly interesting, because they seem to suggest a period of time in which a Christian identity is flexible," Snyder said. "Is it just a simple either/or between pagan and Christian?" he asked. "Or is there really something rather like a spectrum? Or are you really sort of both in certain respects?"
Constantine did not patronize Christianity alone, however. After gaining victory in the Battle of the Milvian Bridge (312), a triumphal arch—the Arch of Constantine—was built (315) to celebrate it; the arch is decorated with images of Victoria and sacrifices to gods like Apollo, Diana, or Hercules, but contains no Christian symbolism.
Originally posted by Zeer0
This is what im trying to tell everybody at school. Christianity also comes from other Gods, has similar stories that are found with other mythology and is a blatant Plagiarism of the Egyptian Religion. But people cant come to grasp this fact. Shows how brainwashed the Churches make people.
Originally posted by LanternOfDiogenes
I do not mean to demean the old ways, or the tales told in shadows by fires, I am saying that they have power in them. The bishops, Constantine, and the heads of all religions, have seen that for centuries.
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
reply to post by kalunom
I said all that to simply say this. Paganism is idol worship of symbols. When the symbol is made the God and worshiped, this is paganism. The symbol is there to point the way to God. That's it. God is the one to be admired. All of nature is the symbol that points to God. The meaning of the symbol is what points the way.
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
reply to post by kalunom
I said all that to simply say this. Paganism is idol worship of symbols. When the symbol is made the God and worshiped, this is paganism. The symbol is there to point the way to God. That's it. God is the one to be admired. All of nature is the symbol that points to God. The meaning of the symbol is what points the way.
Originally posted by kalunom
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
reply to post by kalunom
I said all that to simply say this. Paganism is idol worship of symbols. When the symbol is made the God and worshiped, this is paganism. The symbol is there to point the way to God. That's it. God is the one to be admired. All of nature is the symbol that points to God. The meaning of the symbol is what points the way.
This is simply saying that paganism is the root of Christianity and all other major religions. The pagan mythology and symbolism was the initial impetus for pointing the way to God, enlightenment, the Absolute, the Truth, etc.
Why is there a disconnect between this and the teaching of the Catholic church, for example? Is it believed that a better understanding of one's religious beliefs cannot be had by learning it's real roots and history?
Originally posted by InshaAllah
not that i care but how did this turn into a debate about religon.
Originally posted by LanternOfDiogenes
Originally posted by SuperiorEd
reply to post by kalunom
I said all that to simply say this. Paganism is idol worship of symbols. When the symbol is made the God and worshiped, this is paganism. The symbol is there to point the way to God. That's it. God is the one to be admired. All of nature is the symbol that points to God. The meaning of the symbol is what points the way.
Just Like to point out that the Catholic church promotes and practices idolatry... Saints, Hail Marys, and all the ceremonial practice of eating of flesh and drinking of blood...also pagan practices, but for vastly different reasons.
“All the world over, mankind has honoured the spokesmen of God and has adopted their teachings. It reveres Christ, Buddha, Zoroaster, Krishna, and other High-Prophets as its greatest leaders. But it has not looked on them as related to one another. It has thought of them as rivals, competing for the homage of the world. It has imagined that to accept the revelation of one is to deny the revelation of every other and that the votaries of any one High-Prophet are not loyal to their Lord unless they esteem him the sole authentic revealer come from God. It has balanced the High-Prophets against one another as it were in scales, so that when one goes up, the others must go down; . . . Thus the influence of religion, which ought to have tended to unify the peoples of the world, has through a misunderstanding engendered hostility and strife. The High-Prophets never spoke ill of one another: the antagonism originated with their followers.. . . None affirmed that his revelation was final or exhaustive;