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Originally posted by galdur
It doesn´t make any sense at all in a gravity driven event that asymmetrical damage to a reinforced building would result in symmetrical collapse.
Defense Secretary Rumsfeld had announced on the eve of the attack that more than $2 trillion was missing from the Pentagon.
Originally posted by hooper
Originally posted by galdur
It doesn´t make any sense at all in a gravity driven event that asymmetrical damage to a reinforced building would result in symmetrical collapse.
Not that I agree with your assestments and descriptions of what was symmetrical and what wasn't and I really don't know what you mean by a "reinforced" building; but be that as it may, why not? What rule is broken? I don't recall Einstein or Newton or any other deep thinker ever declaring the "asymmetrical" damage must cause only a "asymmetrical collapse".
Originally posted by Yankee451
reply to post by hooper
Re-read the OP Hoop.
I think you and your buddies misunderstand the intent.
Originally posted by esdad71
Originally posted by Yankee451
reply to post by hooper
Re-read the OP Hoop.
I think you and your buddies misunderstand the intent.
I think you should re read it...
In searching for the truth , sometimes we uncover things that go against our beliefs , such is the nature of the beast .
If we here at ATS can work together , put aside our petty differences of opinions and look at the evidence objectively , then maybe one day we can truly honour the dead .
I'm telling you now , any trolling or off topic remarks will be reported immediately .
Let's keep this objective and stick to the facts
The OP is not promoting a no plane theory, but you are? The OP is not promoting explosives...but you have with remote detonation. The OP is not stating the events of that day are all false and asks for people to work together, which again you are not doing.
You are reposting the same 4 pictures every couple of pages. Where is the facts that you have that make a difference 6 or 7 years after these pictures and such were first reviewed.
The OP asks that we can one day honor the dead and in a few threads some of you point out that the DEAD do not matter or that they do not exist and are hidden somewhere in an airport hanger in Ohio...Really? Do you actually believe the things you say are is it just for attention and stars???
There is what happened that day and then there are multiple conspiracies. There is no OS. This term was created by the Truthers to create sides and too again deflect and spread disinfo.
Originally posted by waypastvne
reply to post by VitriolAndAngst
This link will go into a little more detail about the truss seats failures.
Over 90% of floor truss connections at or below the impact floors of both buildings were either bent downward or completely sheared from the exterior wall suggesting progressive overloading of the floors below the impact zone following collapse initiation of the towers. Depending upon joint geometry, detachment of the main truss seats occurred either by fracture in the heat-affected zone of the base material, where the standoff plate detached from the spandrel, or through the weld metal, where the seat angle detached from the standoff plate. Failure in both cases was the result of a shear mechanism due to an overload condition.
Click it, read it.
Failure of Welded Floor Truss Connections from the Exterior Wall during Collapse of the World Trade Center Towers
Originally posted by esdad71
There is no OS. This term was created by the Truthers to create sides and too again deflect and spread disinfo.
Buildings are reinforced to counteract the effect of gravity. This should be obvious to most people.
As a result it is a physical impossibility that reinforced buildings would fall though themselves practically without resistance in a gravity driven event.
Your views here seem somehow faith based, in any event they´re not in touch with any physical reality.
Originally posted by galdur
reply to post by hooper
If you believe that reinforced buildings can fall through themselves practically without resistance in a gravity driven event then you must also believe that a parachutist, whose parachute opens and works normally, also falls to earth practically without resistance. Can´t have it both ways.
Originally posted by hooper
Originally posted by galdur
reply to post by hooper
If you believe that reinforced buildings can fall through themselves practically without resistance in a gravity driven event then you must also believe that a parachutist, whose parachute opens and works normally, also falls to earth practically without resistance. Can´t have it both ways.
Can a building that is not reinforced fall through itself with practically no resistance? Never mind.
Yes, I can have it "both ways" since niether scenario is relevant. The Towers collapsed, there was resistance. Hence all the cloud of dust and broken material. Resistance is not always manifested by event duration.
Originally posted by hooper
Originally posted by galdur
reply to post by hooper
If you believe that reinforced buildings can fall through themselves practically without resistance in a gravity driven event then you must also believe that a parachutist, whose parachute opens and works normally, also falls to earth practically without resistance. Can´t have it both ways.
Can a building that is not reinforced fall through itself with practically no resistance? Never mind.
Yes, I can have it "both ways" since niether scenario is relevant. The Towers collapsed, there was resistance. Hence all the cloud of dust and broken material. Resistance is not always manifested by event duration.
Originally posted by zerimar65
Defense Secretary Rumsfeld had announced on the eve of the attack that more than $2 trillion was missing from the Pentagon.
he never said it was missing - try listening to what he actually said....
"According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions," Rumsfeld admitted.
It wasn't missing. It cannot be accounted for. Somehow $2.3 TRILLION was spent and they don't know what it was spent on. Maybe they spent it as hush money for 9/11? They had to pay off a lot of people to keep their silence.
....wrong, resistance is always manifested by event duration....
Originally posted by gentledissident
Originally posted by esdad71
There is no OS. This term was created by the Truthers to create sides and too again deflect and spread disinfo.
"Let us never accept outrageous conspiracy theories,...........concerning the attacks of september the 11. George Bush