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$4,876 hammer and $3,276 toilet seats...........DUDE that is more far fetched....
Originally posted by Alfie1
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
You obviously just accept stuff from conspiracy sites without doing any checking yourself or you wouldn't be so all over the place.
Rumsfeld was complaining that $2.3 trillion could not be properly accounted for because of the archaic and inefficient DoD systems. He wasn't the first to refer to it; the same figure had been bandied about long before Rumsfeld/Cheney/Bush took office. There was no reason for Rumsfeld to be embarrased about it. It hadn't happened on his watch and had accrued over many years.
As regards your assertion that a particular part of the Pentagon was attacked to destroy evidence relating to the $2.3 trillion; again you can't have done any checking.
Most of the Pentagon casualties were in fact in the Navy Command Center but some 34 staff involved in budgets died. But those staff had nothing to with trying to reconcile $2.3 trillion. This is a report from the Inspector General of the DoD dated March 2002. If you scroll down to " Executive Summary " you will see that it states " The Army did not publish stand-alone financial statements for FY 2001 due to the loss of financial management personnel sustained during the Sept 11 attack. Therefore, we did not audit Army financial information for FY 2001 financial statements. However, Army financial statement information was included in the DoD Agency-Wide Financial Statements." :-
www.dodig.mil...
In other words the only financial management loss related to Army financial statements for fiscal year 2001 which, in any event, was included in the Agency-Wide figures.
There is not a shred of evidence that a single person killed at the Pentagon had anything to do with the $2.3 trillion and the process of reconciling that continued after 9/11.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
$4,876 hammer and $3,276 toilet seats...........DUDE that is more far fetched....
Apparently, you weren't paying attention to the news, when these stories were first coming out. Yes, the *thousands* of dollars was an exaggeration...to make a point. Here, is an article...just one, about hammers:
The case for the $435 hammer - investigation of Pentagon's procurement
Originally posted by Alfie1
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
I love the way your Pentagon " missile " witness only talks about a "plane ".
Why do you ignore all the other scores of witnesses to a plane. Many in much more detail, not caught out of the corner of the eye .Identifying that it was an American Airlines plane for example ?
Originally posted by weedwhacker,
there is a piece from United Airlines flight 175, that clearly matches the section where the "N"-number was painted on....it matches the airplane that was known to be operating that flight.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Link please!
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by Alfie1
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
I love the way your Pentagon " missile " witness only talks about a "plane ".
Why do you ignore all the other scores of witnesses to a plane. Many in much more detail, not caught out of the corner of the eye .Identifying that it was an American Airlines plane for example ?
Wow another coincidence?
Originally posted by Alfie1
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
I didn't say " budget staff " from the Navy died at the Pentagon. I referred to casualties in the Navy Command Centre. So, if you were aware, that is something else you got wrong.
Anyway, your answer is that the Inspector General of the DoD and his staff "cooked the books " and produced
a fictitious report. You obviously have evidence to share with us to back that up ?
Originally posted by Alfie1
I am afraid people using a simile doesn't do it for me.
What have you got to say about the scores of witnesses to a plane at the Pentagon ?
911research.wtc7.net...
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by Alfie1
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
I didn't say " budget staff " from the Navy died at the Pentagon. I referred to casualties in the Navy Command Centre. So, if you were aware, that is something else you got wrong.
Anyway, your answer is that the Inspector General of the DoD and his staff "cooked the books " and produced
a fictitious report. You obviously have evidence to share with us to back that up ?
The conspiracy is the evidence. What more do you need?
Originally posted by syrinx high priest
where did the passengers and crew go then ?
you don't have a conspiracy until you find a single shred of credible physical evidence that those people were somehow abducted and disposed of rather than being on those planes that day
sorry, but you don't
Originally posted by impressme
reply to post by weedwhacker
Have covered this, in great detail. The lies don't work, anymore.
Perhaps the many lies that a few of you OS supporters make claims to. the fact is Truthers don’t need to lie because they do not support OS lies.
As far as your “nonsense” about no remote airplanes could have been used, I would suggest you do some real research on the topic instead of insulting everyone with your opinions.
The earliest unmanned aerial vehicle was A. M. Low's "Aerial Target" of 1916.[4] Nikola Tesla described a fleet of unmanned aerial combat vehicles in 1915.[5] A number of remote-controlled airplane advances followed, including the Hewitt-Sperry Automatic Airplane, during and after World War I, including the first scale RPV (Remote Piloted Vehicle), developed by the film star and model airplane enthusiast Reginald Denny in 1935.[4] More were made in the technology rush during the Second World War; these were used both to train antiaircraft gunners and to fly attack missions. Jet engines were applied after WW2, in such types as the Teledyne Ryan Firebee I of 1951, while companies like Beechcraft also got in the game with their Model 1001 for the United States Navy in 1955.[4] Nevertheless, they were little more than remote-controlled airplanes until the Vietnam Era.
The birth of US UAVs (called RPVs at the time) began in 1959 when USAF officers, concerned about losing US pilots over hostile territory, began planning for the use of unmanned flights.[6] This plan became intensified when Francis Gary Powers and his "secret" U-2 were shot down over the USSR in 1960. Within days, the highly classified UAV program was launched under the code name of "Red Wagon." [7] The August 2 and August 4, 1964, clash in the Tonkin Gulf between naval units of the U.S. and North Vietnamese Navy initiated America's highly classified UAVs into their first combat missions of the Vietnam War.[8] When the "Red Chinese"[9] showed photographs of downed US UAVs via Wide World Photos,[10] the official U.S. response was, "no comment."
en.wikipedia.org...
In any case.....the outstanding evidence is irrefutable, from the radar tracking to the debris in New York City....there is no doubt (except in the most fringe of silly conspiracist websites) that these were the same airplanes that departed from Boston as regularly scheduled passenger flights, and were hijacked.
Any website that does not support the OS fairytales of 911 is (a fringe of silly conspiracist websites) right?
No proof of any of these planes departing anywhere; no eyewitness saw any of these planes taxi to runway, much less take off. No real evidence that these planes were really highjack, all hearsay from our government. Where do you get your information from, the gov websites?edit on 20-5-2011 by impressme because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
I see *W* and something else next to it.