Cosmonaut Crashed Into Earth 'Crying In Rage'

There were always rumors that the Soviets had sent a man into space ahead of Gagarin, but that they didn't publicize it because he didn't survive.

Nice find, it's very poor reflection on the Soviets that this guy wasn't given a full military funeral with all the honors, that it was just brushed under the carpet as another failure.

I read that it wasn't the fall that killed him.

It was the sudden stop.

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So how i take when he plunged to earth and hit the atmosphere he got melted to death, they said he was complaining of heat in the capsule that would be a terrible way to die to be cooked to death or did he die when it hit the ground.

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A lot of people have no idea that "progress" as it is viewed in today's political arena in the U.S. was/is part of the goal of the old soviet empire, and it is coming to fruition. Progress to socialists/communists is not about technological discoveries, or advancement, but rather a change in ideology, a hatred towards everything that is capitalism, and this ideology is winning for the detriment of all the human race.

Yes, we should be looking for cleaner technologies to power our cities, but not at the cost of human life. Although i am not condoning either clear cutting of entire forests, or the waste and real toxic chemicals being released into the oceans, etc. But no, today's "progress" is concentrating in "the evil ghgs" which include water vapor, and CO2, both NEEDED natural, and benefitial gases that have always made the Earth greener. Yet in the name of "progress" these benefitial GHGs, and mankind are being blamed for a natural process in order to supplant capitalism around the world and to bring in a New World Order with socialist ideals.

CO2 is not the culprit of the warming which has been experienced at the same time in all planets in the Solar System, including moons with an atmosphere, water vapor however is part of the reason why the Earth goes into a greenhouse effect which causes a feedback effect. the warmer it gets, the more water vapor the atmosphere can contain which makes it hotter, apart from the Sun and other influences including from outside the Solar System.

Science is being replaced by pseudo-science like the AGW scam by today's "progressives", and it's purpose is to substitute capitalism with socialism/communism.

I am not saying all "progressives" are doing this knowingly, but "even unknowingly anyone can be brainwashed to follow even the devil straight to hell for a good cause"...or so they claim it is a good cause, but in reality sequestering atmospheric CO2 will be detrimental to all life on Earth, including all green biomass.

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Actually with the g-forces he would have sustained, it MIGHT have been the fall that killed him.

However black your humor was, the post was still good

great read! thanks for sharing!

What can you do when your in that guys shoes?
pawns. Doesn't matter what your rank, if you wear a uniform, your just a pawn in someone else's game.
unfortunately name of the game this day and age is greed and gluttony, not just in food.

Here is Jim Oberg's overview of fatalities in the Soviet space program. Lots of food for thought...

Uncovering Soviet Disasters-James Oberg

Regarding Komarov..

Komarov's death has attracted its share of rumors, and the most gruesome is that his death screams were recorded by American monitoring stations. According to this account, he knew while still in orbit that he was doomed and took part in a series of tear-jerking conversations with his wife, with Premier Aleksey Kosygin, and with his associates in the space program. As he began his death dive back to Earth, he reported rising temperatures, then began screaming. It is difficult to reconcile these accounts with what is reliably known about the Soyuz 1 space disaster. According to Yevsikov, major problems struck the spaceship almost immediately; at one point, an angry Komarov raged, "Devil-machine, nothing I lay my hands on works!" While he did have trouble orienting his craft for reentry, he eventually succeeded. And his descent crossed far northwestern regions of Soviet territory not normally covered by American space-tracking facilities likely to overhear him. A fouled parachute, which was the official Soviet explanation, would probably not have been noticeable to the pilot; alternately, disintegrating on reentry would have occurred during the normal "blackout" period when all radio communications are normally cut off. The "death screams" rumor just doesn't seem credible. Yet in April 1987, with glasnost in full swing, the anniversary-crazy Soviets ignored the twentieth anniversary of Komarov's death. Full official candor about the Soyuz 1 tragedy remains out of reach.

Regarding Gagarin..

In March 1968 Yuriy Gagarin's death shocked the Soviet Union and the world. He had been on a routine jet training flight, with Vladimir Seryogin, his flight instructor. But the official Soviet news media never explained the crash, and dozens of private theories sprang up to account for it. In some, Gagarin was drunk, or hot-rodding, or actually attempting to shoot a moose from the opened cockpit. In others, the Kremlin had done away with him to avoid embarrassment over his [page 173] womanizing or because he was a "Khrushchev creature." Officially Gagarin has become a "patron saint of space travel"; the details of his death appeared irrelevant to official histories. Only in early 1987 were the accident investigation files opened to Soviet journalists; while debunking rumors about drunkenness, the records were not kind to Gagarin's sainthood when the published reports attributed the crash to "pilot error."

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by 2manyquestions

 

This is what communism is about. There are still people dedicated to the ideology of communism. They are running the halls of the WH as we speak. In the 80's we used to talk about the Pravda and how much disinfo they spewed. Communism has just taken a more quietly insidious tone---with concepts like green technology. They are willing to sabotage oil drilling platforms, leaking massive amounts of oil into the ocean for their ideology.

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It's not just Communism. Governments all over the world do it every day, whether they endanger astronauts, soldiers, or the ordinary folks living in contaminated areas, completely oblivious. I've lived in a Communist country so I know all about propaganda. I remember Gagarin, and how he was made into a hero in all the Soviet-controlled countries. I can't say I heard anything about this other guy who seemed to have made a very noble decision in order to save his friend. Strange. It's funny. I remember Pravda magazine. The fact that "Pravda" means "truth" is all too ironic.

Double-post.

Ahh cosmonauts, the rats of space. I feel as much as when I clip a fingernail. No ruskie flag on the moon is there.

This gave me nightmares for some time when I first read it. Then it came back relating to something ahead, as if he was trying to warn me, to prepare and pray and intercede ahead of time, for those in some event, some nuclear, or cme/sun flare, or volcanic, just some event, that was going to impact many and they would be going through roughly what he did. I had this come so strongly. Thanks for reminding to pray more with seeing this thread on this forum.

Wow, what a story.

It says a lot about human nature that people will knowingly go to their deaths to save someone else that they love. And also that we humans can become so fearful for our lives that we will knowingly send someone we love to their death rather than risk enraging an 'authority' figure.

Wow, what a story.

It says a lot about human nature that people will knowingly go to their deaths to save someone else that they love. And also that we humans can become so fearful for our lives that we will knowingly send someone we love to their death rather than risk enraging an 'authority' figure.

Im posting to book mark so i can read it when i get home. by the sounds of it it looks like a good read.

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ATS users' Hint (#56):

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This kind of stuff is wild.
Despite the usually macabre nature of things like this, I love it when a potential flood of hidden or "forgotten" information floats to the surface. I still can't believe we get new information about WWII all the time... so many skeletons in the closet and that happened decades prior to the space race.
What else are we going to potentially hear about in the future?

Also; This inspired me to read up on some of the Phantom Cosmonauts. Some of those stories(if true) are as heart breaking as they are infuriating.
The ones I'm most interested in are the ones concerning the brothers who picked up transmissions. One was an SOS moving away from Earth and the other was a woman supposedly burning up.

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thats a sad story, sooooooooo much government lies in that article , peace!

If the story is true then it shows a remarkable story of compassion and friendship.

A man knowingly taking a chance on technology he knew was bad just to make sure his friend was safe.

Says a lot about the man...A true hero.

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A sad story indeed.

Are you willing to point out the lies you are talking about ? You got me curious.

Originally posted by Drunkenparrot
reply to post by Xeven

 

I believe the wheels of the giant machine that was the Apollo program were to far committed to achieving Kennedy's vision of reaching the moon within the decade to have ground to a halt if Apollo 11 had turned into a disaster.

They would have possibly slowed the program down and there may have been recriminations within Nasa over the wisdom of previously accelerating the program but that is a guess.

Somebody like Jim Oberg would be welcome to comment..?

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Apollo 1 was a certified disaster with the loss of Virgil Grissom, Ed White, and Roger Chaffee. A certified disaster that could have been avoided with more research into the concerns voiced to NASA over pure oxygen environments. Yet, we kept right up with that little program and eventually we got to the moon... several times. Keep in mind Apollo 13 didn't exactly run like a swiss watch either.

Originally posted by Liberterius
Ahh cosmonauts, the rats of space. I feel as much as when I clip a fingernail. No ruskie flag on the moon is there.

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Wow.... you're a terrible person. Without these Soviet heroes giving their lives, there might not have been an Apollo program.