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Originally posted by thepathoverseer
Originally posted by ToToo
As a Democrat, I must say that I agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY 100% with the OP on this.
Arizona IS doing the right thing, and I think anyone that disagrees with what Arizona is doing is absolutely 100% WRONG. Repeat - 100% WRONG!!!
GOOD JOB ARIZONA, YOU ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING!!!!!
[edit on 20-5-2010 by ToToo]
Don't you know, this issue could lead to civil war.
Think people Think!
Originally posted by Milleresque
that any state in the Union on its worst day was better that the nation of Mexico on its best
Christ. I am not born in the United States, but this kind of mentality--however quietly inserted--is the ABSOLUTE reason you will fail in your understanding and perception of people living outside of your borders. What tripe.
To say that any member of your INDESCRIBABLY corrupt "union" would make better decisions than that of another SOVEREIGN nation is...pathetic. Childish. You highlight everything lacking in your collective intellect and capacity for empathy.
Have you even paid mention to foreign policy over the last several decades? Do you not recognise the rights of every man/woman to liberty, justice, and the pursuit of happiness. Forefathers spit from a historical distance, and it is easily enough shrugged away...
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by Phedreus
Gee I bet you were really ticked off when LBJ signed the civil rights bill too weren't ya? When folks railed on Alabama, you thought that was dishonorable didn't you?
Don't you realize that politics is all about standing up for what you believe in? That these folks by applauding Calderon were in fact being honorable to THEIR BELIEFS? Would you want them to uphold yours instead? If that's the case.. well that's pretty much fascism... If you don't want to live in a fascist state, that means you can't be intellecutally dishonest and support freedom on one hand, and then call senators who stand up for their and their consituents belief "dishonorable".
You really need to look up that definition again.
Originally posted by mothershipzeta
Originally posted by thepathoverseer
Don't you know, this issue could lead to civil war.
It would be hilarious if Mexico had to move into Arizona to quell the violence on its northern border.
Originally posted by mothershipzeta
Originally posted by Mykahel
reply to post by thepathoverseer
If it's a Civil war to shed this corrupt, evil and tyrannical government, then so be it. There will be death and bloodshed, something we should avoid when at all possible, but that doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye to the evils being done in Washington.
Please give us a few examples of these "evils." Oh, and some examples of tyranny would be lovely.
If you didn't have a problem with habeas corpus being ignored, illegal wiretaps and torture starting around 2001, then I don't think you know what "evil" actually is.
Originally posted by mothershipzeta
Originally posted by riffraff
So when's the revolution? I can think of no higher honor than to be the first casualty in the restoration of the former greatest country on earth
There is a LEGION of Internet Tough Guys ahead of you. But I can state with complete confidence that none of you will actually put your life on the line for what you say you believe in.
101st Fighting Keyboarders, we salute you.
[edit on 5/21/10 by mothershipzeta]
Originally posted by Stewie
There is some hypocrisy here I would like to address.
It seems progressives/democrats are screaming over this AZ. bill.
However, WHO exactly asked for BIG GOVERNMENT?
Originally posted by maybereal11
Democrats do not want "Big Government".
They want a government that does what it should.
You have shamed your people, your states, and your country with your prepubescent show of America bashing.
Originally posted by JohnnyR
I'm not sure but hasn't all of this been settled before?
Mueler v. Mena U.S. Supreme Court
I mean the court ruled 9-0 that and I quote:
The Court further held that the officers' questioning of Mena about her immigration status during her detention did not violate the Fourth Amendment. The officers did not need to have reasonable suspicion to question Mena. Moreover, the Court had held repeatedly that mere police questioning did not constitute a seizure.
So according to this, since the Arizona law specifically requires reasonable suspicion to question immigration status, the SC found no reasonable suspicion is required to ask for immigration status.
I'm really having a hard time seeing what is wrong with Arizona's law. Seems they took racial profiling into consideration, while the Fed version doesn't, nor does the SC, but Arizonians are called racsist..?
Am I not seeing something here?
Originally posted by LibertyLover
So, did you also send a letter to Republicans in the Congress when they authorized Bush 2 to invade a country that had nothing to do with the attack on the World Trade Center and when Republicans allowed a budget surplus to be frittered away on wars and corporate hand-outs?
Originally posted by thepathoverseer
Originally posted by ToToo
As a Democrat, I must say that I agree WHOLEHEARTEDLY 100% with the OP on this.
Arizona IS doing the right thing, and I think anyone that disagrees with what Arizona is doing is absolutely 100% WRONG. Repeat - 100% WRONG!!!
GOOD JOB ARIZONA, YOU ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING!!!!!
[edit on 20-5-2010 by ToToo]
Don't you know, this issue could lead to civil war.
Think people Think!
Originally posted by prionace glauca
Originally posted by maybereal11
Democrats do not want "Big Government".
They want a government that does what it should.
That made me spit out my food,
What do you call the ever reaching arm of the Government in General Motors, which allowed Unions to take over that company?
December 20th, 2008
U.S. Throws Lifeline to Detroit
WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration said it would lend $17.4 billion to General Motors Corp. and Chrysler LLC,
What about the governments reach in Housing Loans with Freddie and Fannie, which led to the housing bubble guaranteeing unqualified people with loans...now Freddie & Fannie own majority of the Home Loans?
What about the HCR bill?
In that same HCR bill..the Feds now control all Student Loan Market, which used to employ 2500 people in my neck of the woods...all unemployed now.
So the Dems want a small government? Did you know that under Obama, Federal and Government jobs have increased in Pay and Hiring over any other administration to date?........