Mars Surface Pictures / Anomolies

reply to post by Snowi




Ok i got some more, these ones are from spirit rover, opportunity and also the Viking 1 lander.

I have noticed a perculiar circular pattern here and there. The first one that sttod out was from Viking 1, i will post that first. The ones following are from other areas and are less obvious but noticable, i have also enhanced some images and pointed out the area's of interest.


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/be9cbda427d4.jpg[/atsimg]
Viking 1 llander image


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/ef0a1fbaa3b1.jpg[/atsimg]

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/82929e280273.jpg[/atsimg]

Possbile writing and a similar circle image

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/c9d897f48c0a.jpg[/atsimg]

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/9021e7b78940.jpg[/atsimg]

Circle design again.


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/1c1fa3c94321.jpg[/atsimg]

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3b9820da462f.jpg[/atsimg]

this one is very hard to make out but visible. Also the rock itself has an interesting shape.

reply to post by ArMaP


It's the same cam but one image after the other from the Navcam. I linked the source of the raw image archive in my previous post.

Thanks for the enhancement liquidself, and for the second picture Havick. I don't really know what to make of the "horizon object." In both the enhancement and the original, it appears to be something quite different from the pixelization visible around it. It also appears to be segmented, or to have a dark patch about half way up, in both the original and much more visibly in the enhancement.

The set of two images of the same region where the horizon object was is peculiar. It's very clearly visible in the first image, which is the original image. In the second image, there does still appear to be something in that same spot, however in this image that "thing" looks different. In the second image it looks much more like pixelization or some other artifact, if it is even in the image at all. The fact that it appears in the same spot but looks different is puzzling to me. Also, I have no idea what to make of the apparent "flock" of white objects above the horizon object in the second image, although taken in isolation I would dismiss them as artifacts.

Is it possible to zoom in and false/negative color that patch of the horizon in the second image? I would like to confirm that there is something in that same approximate location in both images. Even if it's not actually there in the second image, the horizon object in the first image is so distinct that I don't think we should dismiss it just yet.

How high off the ground is the camera that took these? What's the radius of Mars? What is the horizontal arc in degrees that is included in the image? (I'm sure there is some optical term for this horizontal arc, but I don't know what it is.)

If we know those things we should be able to figure out how far away the apparent horizon is to the rover in a flat area like the one in the image. If we could figure out how far away the horizon is, and the horizontal arc of the image, we could determine how wide the visible horizon is. With that value, we could estimate the size of the horizon object based on what fraction of the total horizon the object occupies. I'll try to answer my own questions if I can. . . but could someone enlarge and reverse color the region of the horizon in question in the second image so that we could see if anything is there? If so, thanks in advance.

Ok i have some other intereresting photo's this time from the Spirit rover.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/962146569a65.jpg[/atsimg]
This could have once been a statue ( notice the part to the very right what appears to be a head. The loose rock is covering the eye area though


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/a77879a4c8f8.jpg[/atsimg]
This one i am focusing on the rock in the center of the pic. Notice the smooth cut lines of the rock.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/c2618006546b.jpg[/atsimg]
This rock appears to have a figure on it but with the top of it missing, it may have a head to go with it below is a comparison picture of Aboriginal rock art paintings from 10,000 yrs ago approx.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/c417b66e3286.jpg[/atsimg]

Obviously not exactly the same, but bears a simarlarity in the body area of the object.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/1a48ed5b45c6.jpg[/atsimg]

Lasly i found this rock quite interesting, notice the area i have pointed out above with what seems to be something attached to the rock. Almost like paper flapping in the wind but old and torn. It also has a matching shadow. Also under the rock it looks like an interesting box shaped object.

I still really don't see anything suspicious.

EDIT: Ok, the last 3 pictures are a bit odd. What's that thing under the rock? bent metal?

[edit on 18/4/10 by Cybernet]

reply to post by Havick007

Here they are.

The first photo is from the left camera, as the name shows



The second photo is from the right camera.



They were both taken at the same time, on Sol 1163.

Edit: it would be better if you could post the photos' IDs, it would make things easier to find the originals instead of the highly compressed images from Google Earth.

[edit on 18/4/2010 by ArMaP]

reply to post by OnceReturned


It doesnt seem to appear in the second image in the same place. Looking at the first image it seems to have a trail of light behind it as if it is moving. But then the second frame shows various objects above it in the area as if it has scattered. But i am wondereing if it is an image error. I will post it again with enhanced lighting and contrast.

Here are the enhanced contrast and lighting shot's:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/7b313cd5b031.jpg[/atsimg]


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/63b133642611.jpg[/atsimg]

[edit on 18-4-2010 by Havick007]

I really can't see anything of intrest here. This reminds me of all the posts called "is this real?" or "is this fake". As always you will get some people saying it's not and some say -i think so!

reply to post by Havick007


Used an old version of photoshop; icreased rez arbitrarily to 600 (which wy their a kind of Moir effect around in the sky) and cut and pasted. (where the original i used was your post at 75). Was the original image at 75 where you got it?

reply to post by liquidself


Ok thanks, i had CS4 but it was a pain to use, soooo not user friendly

reply to post by Vesica



I'm not trying to post fakes, nooo way. Just things that seemed of interest to me and i wanted other's opinion on.

Originally posted by expat2368
The one you labeled about the "Gray" is the only one that piqued my interest. Two circles like that and the nose feature in such symmetry would be unusual in nature.

First time I have seen that one. I am convinced that Mars was inhabited by an advanced society, probably millions of years ago and virtually all traces of it have been erased.

Here we go the old faces in rocks plenty on Earth you dont need to go to Mars

Here fill your boots

www.needlesports.com...

reply to post by Havick007


Do you not realise you cannot BLOW up pictures to whatever size you feel like and get more detail pictures have a resolution limit its simple, to many people on here watch to much CSI .

[edit on 18-4-2010 by wmd_2008]

Originally posted by wmd_2008

Originally posted by expat2368
The one you labeled about the "Gray" is the only one that piqued my interest. Two circles like that and the nose feature in such symmetry would be unusual in nature.

First time I have seen that one. I am convinced that Mars was inhabited by an advanced society, probably millions of years ago and virtually all traces of it have been erased.

Here we go the old faces in rocks plenty on Earth you dont need to go to Mars

Here fill your boots

www.needlesports.com...

Yawn.... Yea yeah i have heard this argument, what do you call it, Pareidolia??

Hmmm ok, well it all depends on your perception of the rock and how random it can be.

Let's see, Mt rushmore is that a rockface or manmade.....? i do know the answer but in 1000 yrs how do you think it will look after weathering?

reply to post by wmd_2008


Nah i live in Australia friend and to be honest im over all the american crime drama crap on TV So no CSI aint for me.

When did i say i was trying to blow it up to show more. I was asked whether i could enhance the picture to show a certain area. I tried to crop and enlarge to point something out that's all.

Who are you, who who, who who!!! lol ( CSI for all that missed that link )


Anf FYI you can blow a pic up after cropping, it will be more pixelated and of poor quality but it can be blown up

[edit on 18-4-2010 by Havick007]

Originally posted by Havick007

Originally posted by wmd_2008

Originally posted by expat2368
The one you labeled about the "Gray" is the only one that piqued my interest. Two circles like that and the nose feature in such symmetry would be unusual in nature.

First time I have seen that one. I am convinced that Mars was inhabited by an advanced society, probably millions of years ago and virtually all traces of it have been erased.

Here we go the old faces in rocks plenty on Earth you dont need to go to Mars

Here fill your boots

www.needlesports.com...

Yawn.... Yea yeah i have heard this argument, what do you call it, Pareidolia??

Hmmm ok, well it all depends on your perception of the rock and how random it can be.

Let's see, Mt rushmore is that a rockface or manmade.....? i do know the answer but in 1000 yrs how do you think it will look after weathering?

Yes and the rocks on the rock face page have weathered over thousands maybe even hundreds of thousands of years and they LOOK like faces same thing could have happened on Mars now do you get the point

reply to post by wmd_2008


Have you looked at the pic we are talking about here? Does it look weathered to you. It looks quite smooth to me. One solid object.

Originally posted by Havick007
reply to post by wmd_2008

 

Nah i live in Australia friend and to be honest im over all the american crime drama crap on TV

So no CSI aint for me.

When did i say i was trying to blow it up to show more. I was asked whether i could enhance the picture to show a certain area. I tried to crop and enlarge to point something out that's all.

Who are you, who who, who who!!! lol ( CSI for all that missed that link )


Anf FYI you can blow a pic up after cropping, it will be more pixelated and of poor quality but it can be blown up

[edit on 18-4-2010 by Havick007]

Quite literally thousands of pictures on here on many threads re Mars/Moon anomolies many use pic from google earth which are not the best quality we will get the usual suspects on your thread soon who will enlarge example pics until you see the pixels the picture is made up from, then we will get all the posts claiming geometric shapes due the extreme enlargement claiming to see wall structures etc lets see how long it takes.

Any thoughts on this photo below from the Viking 1 Lander. Just take some time to look at the formations in the photo.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/1b854447fd92.jpg[/atsimg]

reply to post by wmd_2008


Are you saying the photos from google arent of good enough quality to make objects out? They seem pretty good to me. What does everyone else think?

The raw images maybe greyscale but are still pretty good. I can certainly see odd things. Hey here's something to ponder, you know those pictures we have that have to different objects in one. I'm not sure of the name of them, they are similar to inkblot pics. You might have picture that has a rabbit and duck in it but some people only see the rabbit, it takes time to see the duck. You know you see them in IQ test's and stuff. You might need to take the same approach to these photo's.
There's many things i didnt see when i first skimmed over the pics. But after careful study certain things begin to stand out. Just a thought


Also as you said about pixelated images etc i know what you mean. I have seen thread where people try to pin point objects on lo res cam's in orbit. It is a waste of time i know. These arent lo res. I will post an example below.

This picture is of odd tracks near the Lcross impact zone on the moon. They are Hi res pics from Kaguya sat. With Lo res pics you couldnt make this out at all.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/ea91ce2c14ff.jpg[/atsimg]

The tracks are approx 10 kms in length

[edit on 18-4-2010 by Havick007]