Mars Surface Pictures / Anomolies

reply to post by Havick007

Hello,
That first pic-link; Are those tire tracks on the ground?
Other than that, I don't see what you're pointing at.

reply to post by loveguy


Yep they are... from the rover but i think you knew that yes??

reply to post by Havick007


Some nice stuff to look at here - thanks for your effort - and don't stop!

Another group of rocks with some odd shapes.

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One of closups of that large crater wall has some cone shapes perpendicular to the ground that appear like conifer type trees..

Very strange to look at.

many of the rocks throughout these images do show features unlike any I have seen on earth before. Geometric lines in a lot of the rocks that remind me of the new photos of phoebos.

funny how we all see things differently. i see a face carved in the end of the rock section you had circled and said had a grey in it

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reply to post by undo


Yeah i saw that as well but i thought was more likely natural. Hey nice work with the image edit though

reply to post by Havick007


you had another one that looked like an elephant carved in stone. it was a full body statue, not connected to an edifice. i don't see it now. did you remove images?

edit: oops, nevermind. i found it. it looks like something odd, not sure on the elephant thing now . it is odd though.

[edit on 18-4-2010 by undo]

You should see some of the things I see in the clouds... Especially after a cold front blows through.

They are very similar to those rock formations!

Ok im gonna change the pace now and move to orbital views. Now we have all seen Cydonia and yes it is quite interesting.
With the MRO ( Mars Recon Orbiter ) there are increasing Hi res pics becoming available. I was looking over the Cydonia Region and noticed that an area approx 100 Kms to the west and also 100 Kms to the South or the Cydonia '' face region kinda stood out to me as well.

There is nothing as interesting as the face but it looks like the area has very strange rock formations which are local to certain areas as you will see.

I will begin with some overview shots and then shots that have been zoomed. I'm not sure if these areas have already been covered on ATS and if they have i apologise.

FYI: Long post alert lots of pics to show

First is the main Cydonia area we all know so well:

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Ok so you can see by the shapes i am trying point out. Below is a close up of the previous image with what looks like a disc shaped object buried in the wall:

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this is the front of the object up close.


The next series is approx 100 Kms to the west of the main Cydonia formations.

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As you can see by the above overviews there are some interesting and possibly unnatural formations.


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Lastly below is a similar area 100Kms directly South of the main Cydonia Region:

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As you can see by these overviews the area's are quite similar and have odd shapes and an odd layout over the landscape.

Below are some close up's of the above area:

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Ok all any thoughts?

Sorry there is so much but i thought it would be easier to put it all in one post rather than spread it out.

Enjoy !!!!

reply to post by undo


Which pic??

reply to post by Havick007


this one. it's in the long rectangular box. but i don't know....i also see something long that looks like an old spinal cord, like a fossil. especially starting from the far left and moving horizontally from left to right. it's a row of white looking stuff. do you see it?
lh3.ggpht.com...

reply to post by Teabags


Here's some funky clouds

here we go

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I really don't think the object that appears on the horizon is a sensor fault. It appears to me to be present in images from both cameras. Here is the first unaltered image in which it is clearly visible:

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Here the object is clearly idenified:

Same image, enhanced with object circled

Those are versions of the same image, taken from the left cam. Here is the image from the right cam, taken at the same time:

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Same image - right cam - enhanced:

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To me, it looks like there is an object in the same spot on the horizon in both the left and right cam images taken at the same time. For some reason, the object is very obviously visible in the left cam(first) image, and almost impossible to see in the right cam image, even the enhanced version. In fact, it's so insubstantial in the right cam image that it's almost impossible to detect, but I assure you that if you zoom in on either the enhanced version or the original you will see that something is there. It doesn't look the same from both cameras, but the fact that there is an object in the same place on the horizon in two images taken by different cameras at the same time rules out sensor fault in my opinion. In fact, it rules out any sort of artifact and virtually guarantees that the object in question is a real structure on Mars, visible on the horizon in these images. Plus, as ArMap noted, the number of pixels that the object occupies in the left cam image undermines the sensor fault theory.

It's not just that I'm crazy, right? There really is something in the exact same spot in each image taken from the two cams at the same time, right?

*None of these images are my doing, thanks to those who added them before me.

reply to post by undo


Yeah kinda but it's hard to say. although i got something that looks like a spinal cord or fossil of. Its from an area nearby Victoria Crater:


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Kinda resembles and fossilised spinal cord... maybe

I'll post a couple more from that area as well:

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In the photo above notice the black tubing in the center of the picture just to the right of the big rock.

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I found a tiny triangle

reply to post by OnceReturned


Yeah i thought black dots were prob errors but the white dots are interesting. Notice in the second pic above where the dot was there are heaps scattering in all directions.

reply to post by undo


Oh yeah i see what you mean. mmm i dunno maybe but it would have to be a big spine lol. Could just be the rock's forming that pattern. Hard to say.

I think I've figured out that the object on the horizon in the first pancam images is ~14.5ft tall and ~8.5ft wide.

I counted the pixes of the object(3x5), and found what fraction the width of the object is of the entire visible horizon(.0029). Based on the height of the pancam(1.5m), and the radius of Mars(3396.2km), I figured that the rover observes the horizon at ~3193m in a flat region such as the one in the image. Based on the distance of the horizon, and the angular width of the pancam image(16 degrees), I figured that the total width of the visible horizon is ~897m. Since the width of the object is .0029% of that width, and the height of the object is .0049%, I think that the object must be about 14.5ft tall and 8.5ft wide.

Does the distance away of the object matter; I mean it could be further or closer couldn't it? My own initial impression is of a plume; but that s just an initial guess. For the life of me I cannot see it in the second picture, just those odd light coloured things (I think there are 7) in the sky.
Ill probably take another image enhancement attempt on this tomorrow. Another line of inquiry could be to see if there are any aerial views of the area. I m not that familiar with Mars really; I wouldnt know where to begin.

I should add that my subjective impression is that its very far, but of course that s based on earth type horizons. kudos for doing the math.

[edit on 18-4-2010 by liquidself]