South Korean navy ship sinks, North link played down

I do not understand the conflict over there, whats the big deal? what are they both trying to protect? I see the conflict of borders here in the usa, between mexico and the usa. Illegal aliens, and drugs and the cartels. keep our borders safe. What is the issues over there? Why is this such a hotspot? Why are we over there in south korea? Im confused.

So now they're saying they think it was a torpedo that hit the ship. The past week they downplayed that.

S. Korea: Torpedo May Have Sunk Warship

South Korea's defense minister says a torpedo might have been responsible for the sinking of a warship near the tense North Korean border last week.

Defense Minister Kim Tae-young told parliament Friday that he believes a torpedo and not a North Korean sea mine as he had claimed earlier in the week was the more likely cause of the ship's destruction.

www1.voanews.com...


Other sources:

South Korea says torpedo may have sunk navy ship
www.reuters.com...

South Korea ship torpedo 'likely' - defence minister
news.bbc.co.uk...

S. Korean Minister Believes Torpedo May Have Sunk Warship
www.foxnews.com...

Now a fishing boat is missing in the same area.

Fishing boat missing after searching for sailors from sunken ship

A fishing boat has vanished and is feared to have sunk after searching for sailors missing from last week's naval disaster, maritime police said Saturday.

Police said they lost contact with the 99-ton boat, carrying nine people aboard, after receiving a distress signal at around 8:30 p.m. Friday in the area off the western sea border with North Korea, where the patrol ship Cheonan ship sank on March 26.

english.yonhapnews.co.kr...

Related:

S.Korea Navy loses contact with fishing boat searching missing sailors
news.xinhuanet.com...

SKorean fishing boat apparently sinks; 9 missing
ph.news.yahoo.com...

Chinese fishing boat sinks off South Korean island; 6 sailors missing
www.msnbc.msn.com...

SKorean fishing boat apparently sinks; 9 missing
www.etaiwannews.com...

Hmmm....thanks for keeping updated here. Won't see this information unless you search for it huh.
Stupid MSM
Thanks ATS!

Originally posted by Xcouncil=wisdom
Hmmm....thanks for keeping updated here. Won't see this information unless you search for it huh.
Stupid MSM
Thanks ATS!

Hi X,
It is also news to me, but only because I had a backlog of unread e-mails including one from BBC with the info. Yes it seems to be downplayed alright, but it is being reported.

Updates for April 3, 2010

S.Korea recovers first body from missing navy crew: Yonhap
news.yahoo.com...

S Korea calls off rescue for missing sailors
news.bbc.co.uk...

Nine missing as S Korean boat sinks in warship search
news.bbc.co.uk...

N. Korea accuses South of armed provocation in DMZ

North Korea claimed Sunday that the South Korean military "committed grave armed provocation" in the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) dividing the two countries, but military officials here denied the accusation.

The North's official news agency, KCNA, reported that a group of South Korean soldiers intruded into the eastern section of the DMZ around 2:07 p.m. and fired 90mm recoilless guns toward a civil police post in the North, "thus seriously threatening the safety of civil policemen of the north side on routine duty."

"This was a premeditated provocation of the south Korean puppet forces designed to deliberately aggravate the situation in the DMZ of the Military Demarcation Line," it said.

english.yonhapnews.co.kr...

S.Korea seeks US help to probe warship sinking

South Korea said Monday it wants US experts to help investigate the mysterious blast which tore a warship in two near the tense North Korean border with the apparent loss of 46 sailors.

President Lee Myung-Bak said however that Seoul would not rush its probe into the March 26 sinking of the corvette because the world was watching the outcome.

"Given the examples of disasters in various advanced nations, accuracy is more important than speed in determining the cause of this kind of big incident," he said in a radio address.

The Joint Chiefs of Staff said a phone request had already been made for US help and that the issue would be officially discussed later Monday.

news.yahoo.com...

‘N.K. submarine activity detected around time Cheonan sank’

The South Korean military detected movements of 325-ton shark-class North Korean submarines around the time when the naval corvette Cheonan sank near the western inter-Korean maritime border, a lawmaker said yesterday.

The remarks by Rep. Kim Hak-song of the ruling Grand National Party added to speculation that the North may be implicated in the sinking of the 1,200-ton Cheonan, which was torn into two following an unverified explosion on March 26.

“Between March 23 and 27, there had been movements of shark-class submarines at the North’s naval base in Bipagot six times on March 23, three times on March 24 and once on March 26,” Kim, the chairman of the National Assembly’s defense committee, said in a meeting with reporters.

“Two (submarines) were maneuvering. One of them was found to be near Bipagot, but the whereabouts of the other was unverified.”

www.koreaherald.co.kr...

I really like how you keep staying right on top of this.
Thanks

This is so a political conspiracy...but to what ends?
Is it better for the world that this country divided keeps great war machines funded? Is this incident being used as leverage why someone makes a backroom deal?
Is Tiger Woods a disinfo agent? - had to thow that in there...remember the day this happened, he was all over the news..then yesterday with the wikileaks video...there he was again....alllllllll day it seemed.

Anyways...found this today...
www.msnbc.msn.com...
"Chief Petty Officer Kim Soo-gil said ......"There's a tearing noise if a ship hits a rock, and it would have shaken if it was caught in sand," he told a news conference. "It seemed to have been a shock from the outside rather than those two reasons.""

""Instead of saying this or that, we must be patient and wait," President Lee Myung-bak said Wednesday. "I specially asked U.S. President Obama to send the best U.S. military and civilian experts" to help find the cause, Lee said."


THIS OR THAT I say....

reply to post by Xcouncil=wisdom


No prob. More than likely North Korea was responsible for the sinking of the ship. It will be interesting to see what comes of the "investigation". They probably already know what the official cause was. Will they tell us the truth though or will it be swept under the rug?
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Another body found in sunken S. Korean warship
www.koreaherald.co.kr...

‘Survivors not put on alert before disaster’
www.koreaherald.co.kr...

Legislators lock horns over sunken ship
www.koreaherald.co.kr...

Survivors of sunken South Korean ship heard loud blast
www.deseretnews.com...

Survivors of Sunken SKorean Ship Describe Ordeal
abcnews.go.com...

Survivors of sunken South Korean ship describe ordeal
www.bostonherald.com...

South Korea Lets Navy Ship Survivors Speak to Dispel Criticism
www.bloomberg.com...

Seoul reviews steps in case navy ship was attacked

“If an attack by North Korea is confirmed, it would be a violation of Chapter Seven of the U.N. Charter, so the U.N. Security Council could take certain measures against the North,” a senior foreign ministry official said on condition of anonymity.

“We cannot say what kind of measures, as Korea is not a member of the Security Council, but U.N. action is likely if an attack can be verified."

Under Chapter Seven of the U.N. Charter, the Security Council determines the existence of any threat to peace, breach of peace or act of aggression and decides what measures to take. Options for the Security Council include military action and the interruption of economic relations or communication.

www.koreaherald.co.kr...

Signs Pointing to North Korean Role in Sinking

It could take weeks for the engineers to salvage the South Korean warship Cheonan, which sank in waters disputed by North Korea after a mysterious explosion, and provide a definitive explanation of what caused the disaster. But the signs are pointing more and more to the North Koreans, which is raising uncomfortable questions for the South Korean government of President Lee Myung-bak.

www.nytimes.com...

The more it looks like unprovoked North Korean aggression, the less interest there will be from ATS - except from the Falseflagobots of course.

reply to post by ZombieSlayer


What signs? The South already said they didn't think it was the North?

reply to post by Retseh


To an extent, you are right. But what we will likely never know is, if indeed the North did it, WAS it unprovoked? Both sides have been taking potshots at each other for decades.

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Wouldn't there be acoustic data available?

Those waters are heavily seeded with all sorts of listening devices as far as I know, so there should be some solid data available. If a torpedo hit that ship, the acoustic signature should stand out loud and clear.

Any navy folks here that could weigh in with firmer information?

Cheonan's stern moved near Baengnyeong Island

Salvage companies yesterday moved the stern of the splintered naval corvette Cheonan some 4.6 kilometers toward the coast of Baengnyeong Island as deteriorating weather conditions threatened to further hamper the salvage operations.

Earlier in the day, they finished tying two metal chains around the stern, where all of the 44 missing sailors are thought to be trapped. Using a crane, they moved it to shallower waters, with a depth of about 25 meters. It was previously 45 meters underwater.

www.koreaherald.co.kr...

Cheonan stern breaks surface after 17 days

Certain signs of damage suggest powerful blast from outside ship

The military managed to hoist a part of the sunken Cheonan’s stern above the waterline yesterday, and discovered several pieces missing, which suggests a strong blast from the outside sunk the ship.

joongangdaily.joins.com...


[edit on 12-4-2010 by ZombieSlayer]