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Originally posted by TrustMeIKnow
As a teaser...whether it is Mason specific or not...I think I may be able to implicate the "coding" of the English language, with regards to industry specific terminology and the necessary creation of new words associated as such, to a multi-lateral meaning.
Originally posted by Doodle456
People will always want to believe the history is far more glamorous with Knights Templar, treasure or some rubbish to do with the Holy Grail. But the links above both from reputable sources state the origins.
While it's not necessarily the ONLY answer, I'm content to take the step, due guard and penal sign as having direct correlation to the tools as well as the penalties. It is possible that the grip and word of each degree, (and pass grip and pass word) could have been used by operative Masons to recognize each other. (And there, I've just listed 7 things that real Masons know as ways of identifying each other, and none of them had anything to do with flashing goat horns or "3 fingers representing an M" or anything silly like Eric Dubay and others would have you believe are Masonic handsigns...)
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Its a partial explanation but does not explain where a whole system of mysticism and philosophy along with peculiar gestures and movements came from.
An example: Supposedly the steps over the grave come from the way stonemasons stepped over planks. Stuff like this sounds awfully contrived.
Originally posted by TrustMeIKnow
The symbolgy of the triangle and it's physical equivalent implies that back then the construction of buildings was not common sense (indeed we could even trace further back to the Rosicrucians but I am interested in the European application).
Originally posted by Doodle456
There is a side order in the UK called "The Royal Order of Scotland" which proclaims that it still has the original Christian parts in. To back this up it is open to only Christian masons.
Originally posted by ForkandSpoon
The rosicrucions are not dated further back then Freemasonry historicaly
It's hard for anyone to prove one way or another, but it is my own opinion that it is VERY VERY likely a Freemason who penned the Fama Fraternitatis RC, and the Confessio Fraternitatis. Christian Rosenkreuz is most likely a pseudonym for Francais Bacon who was likely a Freemason first.......
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
That Masons don’t know makes absolutely no logical sense. It would suggest that no record keeping, and no organizational structure existed, which is a bit comical when the movement seems to be all about structure and a prescribed approach to things.
Originally posted by MemoryShock
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
That Masons don’t know makes absolutely no logical sense. It would suggest that no record keeping, and no organizational structure existed, which is a bit comical when the movement seems to be all about structure and a prescribed approach to things.
What a brilliant observation...
Could it be that that the first rule of Fight Club is to not talk about Fight Club?
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Could it be in fact that it is? One does have to wonder Memory Shock when such intelligent, learned and methodical people haven't a clue about one of the most basic and fundamental, rudementary ellements that binds them all together.