I always wonder why, since there are hi res images available one has to share them using youtube + low res version of the picture heavily retouched,
adding lossy compression to some mess.
If one takes a look to the hi res version , untouched, uncropped, uncrapped, uncompressed,
un-[put here what you want] of the image in the first video, then there will be NOTHING out of the ordinary to see.
IF there's actually something anomalous, then the only retouch that can be justified is some outlining (and that would already be some way to FORCE
the observer to see what he wants him to see). Pareidolia works even spontaneously.
Comparison between YouTube version, original AS10-34-5172 low res and original AS10-34-5172 hi res:
The source can be found here:
if not available, can be requested here:
Where's the "blue machinery"? It can't be found even in the crappy version
of Lunar and Planetary Institute.
As far as i know, it does exists only on youtube.
Either the blue was added by deliberately colorizing the area with a photo editor, or the copy of the image in question was incredibly crappy: each
one of the two cases occurring, would automatically make fall the guy who has made this work into the "unreliable" basket, either for hoaxing or for
severe lack of knowledge in what he wants to research (it has been posted in Science & Technology, fortunately our actual Science & Technology have
nothing to do with such stuff) but let's give to him a second chance with the second video.
In the second video, he didn't share the image number, but i've tracked it down anyway: it's AS14-66-9232, Alan Shephard & the U.S. flag (image
caption: CDR SHEPARD ON LUNAR SURFACE WITH FLAG LOOKING WEST; ASTRONAUT
. Also AS14-66-9231 and AS14-66-9233 show an almost identical scene, but
the one in question is AS14-66-9232.
First, a link to the source image would allow the observer to look at the image taking his time, rather than wasting 2:53 minutes for NO REASONS.
In my humble opinion, they are glitches, the blue-white is the most common color gradient in this type of glitches in Apollo images:
here's a compilation of glitches from the same roll, the first one even comes from the same picture of the video: notice that their color spectrum
variates from the same white-grey to blue: that's NOT some coincidence, IMO.
one might ask: "but could they be actual objects?"
They are all in the sky after all.
Well, i don't think so. A good answer can be found in AS14-66-9220, for example:
Since the object is for sure between the camera and the spacecraft's surface, we can guess after some rough calculation that it's a an object some
inch wide, if not smaller
Or some alien spacecraft from planet Lilliput
Even more obvious, perhaps the best example of the whole roll 66, is in AS14-66-9221 (notice that the dark background is the spacecraft, not the
What would be interesting to know is WHAT exactly caused the glitches: was it some scan failure, some problem with the film emulsion, something
In this version of AS14-66-9232
there are no glitches
, this might suggest that they come from two different scans, one of which had the issue: but it's just some
uncorroborated speculation by me.
Basically, i can tell you the issue, but not its cause
Finally, let me point out that it is just my opinion
, and that i would say that my possible explanation
, while likely, is
. Actually, i would be happy if my possible explanation will be proven to be wrong
I have to say that the second one was a nice find, the shape is very unusual: from one to ten i'd give a zero to the first video and a six to the
second one (for encouragement purposes), regardless what it will turn out to be: it is some anomaly based on some untouched image, hence worthy to be
discussed. I'd humbly suggest to the man who made this work, to follow the second way and to leave alone the first one, beacuse by colorizing stuff
and messing up with both jpeg artifacts and lossy compression marks he's going to nowhere, IMO.
, thank you very much for sharing this
[edit on 21/10/2009 by internos]