India's Pain (images may shock you) *warning*

Did you know that there is no such thing as a "country"?

I am sure fine well he does but you are missing the point maybe if you think of a local goeprphical postion then you will see what he means.


It is actually a mental construct created within our imaginations, so that we may divide and conquer more easily. It's just an idea, which has no bearing on reality at all.


I agree in part I would love to see a world without any borders but it does play a part in our current perception of reality so it does have a bearing.


What do you think theres actually natural lines at the border? I mean cmon man. Your talking mumbo jumbo to me.

You know fine well what he is talking about and he never made any such statement that there where actual natural lines at the border.

In my opinion this statement of yours is an infintial attetmpt to discredit the OP because his way of thinking does not concour with your own.



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reply to post by Maddogkull


we have to help all of man kind, and not just concentrate on one section of the world. we should be able to educate the people out there, teach them how to grow food, build filters for their water, and basically help their society grow out of the mud hole their in.

back at home however, there are ordinances out there that do help the poor. the poor will have more access to medicine, and food here, then they do over in India where they are dying due to the lack of basic needs of survival (clean water, food, etc)

the poor here are getting help, but people from the 3rd world receive little or no help.

we should help back at home, which i do agree to, but i also think that we should help out as many as possible, work on the basics, then proceed from there.

yep keep blaming the worlds woes on capitalism, these things never happen in a socialist country

[edit on 14-10-2009 by I_am_Spartacus]

Sorry,my english may not be up to the mark....but please let me respond to the story.
I an Indian,Bengali...right now sitting in Kolkata.So, I think I know a bit about the situation here.
First, I admit poverty exists....but do some random pictures tell the whole story?
I am 24 yrs old,male,not affiliated to any political party....either communist or anti communist.
Right now I am completing my Masters.....guess what from Calcutta University which is state funded and my tuition fees are so ridiculously low that its a matter of joke here.
But why I am doing Masters? why did not I try to get a job to alleviate my "poverty"??
Ohh...wait,actually I rejected two, three job offers.....my friends didn't.They are doing ok....all are employed in companies which pays them well.
I am not too much worried because right now I dont know any person who is jobless and in the current economic condition I will get a job....yep,quiet confident.
Do I have clean water?...yes,I do.
Power situation?....not bad but should improve.
Actually, I am getting quiet clueless trying to reply to this thread.I am not arguing that poverty does not exist here but few random pictures hardly tell a story.So next time instead of posting pictures from a particular area,it would be better to post pictures of Kolkata from other areas as well.It may not *shock* as much as it is doing right now.
We don't need dollars here.Our governments...whether in central or state, are not as worthless as it may seem.Though we love to criticize every policy but India from 1950 has come a long way.
Ohh....another thing most of the guys here,my friends and others...is pretty ok to stay here...in this so called *gutter* ,instead of going to any other nice looking places.
Maybe I will try to post some pictures from other parts of Kolkata....let's see what I can do.
Btw,it is my first post on ATS.Hello to all...

reply to post by futureisnow


hello future,

thanks for your response.

as stated in the thread, i was sharing my friends expedition to India and i know a few images don't tell the whole story, but its something that needs to be exposed, just like anywhere else.

please share your pictures, so i can share it with my friend. i could even possibly talk him into taking more images around the country, which im sure he will do.

by the way WELCOME TO ATS!

Do you guys really want to eradicate poverty?

Then get rid of BIG GOVERNMENT=out of control and corrupt and BIG BUSINESS=too big to fail and you know what that means , bailout money. In a true capitalist system this could never happen , it would be allowed to fail and a more efficient company would take it's place but no , BIG GOV and BIG BIZ are BIG BUDDIES=SOCIALISM.

Bring back REAL CAPITALISM and FREE MARKET , not the SOCIALIST MONOPOLIES we have today that run to BIG GOV for taxpayers money.

No GLOBALIZATION , which is just code word for
GLOBAL CORPORATION.

Take up an entrepreneuring attitude , learn some trades. Form UNIONS.

We need to empower the working class.

In India's case though Hinduism is caste based and most of the poor are
UNTOUCHABLES. Religion strikes yet again.

wait ... so where are the images that are supposed to shock us?

India's been like this for as long as anybody can remember, not saying its right at all and at times it can downright piss you off but..... wheres the shock and awe? I have a good amount of punjabi and gurdju friends (my bad on the spelling). Many have recently came back from staying in India for a couple months and theres so many people there that ya cant help everybody. Where theres billions of people, theres millions if not a billion poor people. Sh!t happens. ya cant make everybody's living situation better.

reply to post by stereovoyaged


They did not do this to themselves. You did it to them. The British came and destroyed India. Before the British arrived, India was the richest nation on the planet(And if you think otherwise, then you are an IDIOT).

Also, India's population in the 1950's was around 300 million(which is the current population of the U.S.)


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