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Originally posted by soul of integrity
Originally posted by esecallum
I dare say if you were stripped of your mod cons like your burgher, tv, clothes, dvd player and ipod you would revert to savagery very quickly too
....
you can dare say it ....
but i know from personal experience that you would be wrong.
but then again, your only basis for reference has always been yourself, and what you know of yourself. perhaps therein lies the foundation of your flawed logic.
but i know from personal experience that you would be wrong.
Originally posted by masqua
Originally posted by soul of integrity
i admit to being a racist in the general definition because i believe certain races have certain characteristics that may help them in a certain environment more than that of another from a different environment. *
*bolding mine
This is the crux of the problem, right here.
There are those who believe in seperate races of humankind and there are those who, like myself, do not.
In my opinion, the mere belief is racist even though no hatred is involved.
It's that basic belief, in my honest opinion, that is what racism is all about. It doesn't need to involve bigotry and hate at all. They're just various manifestations of that kind of thinking.
It's ideology, not biology or genetics.
Originally posted by reasonable
It's a real shame there are so many tea party members on ATS. I know MANY in this so called movement and all they do half the day is drop n-bombs. It's like taking the KKK and putting a nice facade on it and allowing it to go full bore public. It's as if they are all secretly winking at each other as they project their hate under the guise of a legitimate cause. I am not fooled. It is clever in that sense but nothing more. Keeping an eye on them would be the first step to squashing racism on ATS.
I know from personal experience that he is right and a CIA study done on a society like ours where they begin to lose creature comforts, icons of power or authority, etc, brings babarism and fast.
Originally posted by soul of integrity
maybe we should all shut up concerning this subject matter until one of the two following happens:
an observer can disregard all biology, dna, genetics, and hundreds of millions of years of evolution ...
aka: me verses all that proceeded me
an observer can disregard god ...
aka: me verses god
either battle seems futile almost....
"Race" first appeared in the English language around the 17th century. North Americans began to use the term in their scientific writings by the late 18th century. Racism was developed and popularized by scientists in the 19th century, as they were regarded as purveyors of truth. At the time this ideology also explained political and economic conflicts in various parts of the world and legitimized the dominant role of British capitalism in the world economic system.
www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com...
The Bible does not even use the word race in reference to people
creation.com...
Originally posted by Nirgal
As a marginally off-topic retort to this statement:
I retain the right to freely voice hate speech. If I hate racism I shall voice that hate freely and without fear of recrimination. Your so-called civilised European countries have gone down a road that merely removes all opposition to whatever mantra happens to be in vogue.
It is essential to highlight this or we are doomed to fall into the trap.
Originally posted by Nirgal
Back on topic: I keep forgetting people really are that ignorant. An OP that is er, how do you Americans say?
"Self-evident"?
Originally posted by masqua
To say that "races prefer to be around their own kind" is a fallacy simply because, imho, there are no 'races', only nations.
Originally posted by zazzafrazz
reply to post by Stylez
I know from personal experience that he is right and a CIA study done on a society like ours where they begin to lose creature comforts, icons of power or authority, etc, brings babarism and fast.
And there we have it, so in order to perpetuate racism, one must subjigate one group to get them to comform to your notion of cultural behaviours.
So you are saying here that YOU are making a human behave a certain way by denial of human rights or creature comforts, so you are creating the 'inferior' in order to perpetuate your notion of superior.
I can't imagine putting so much effort into my day to maintain a deluded level of superiority. Maybe go buy a sports car or something, thats a healthier way to deal with inferiority complexes.
Originally posted by masqua
reply to post by Stylez
Nations are made up of people. Empty land masses are just land masses.
If people prefer to live among their own ethnic groups, what's the harm in that. The Greek area in Toronto, for instance, is a great place to visit. They're not grouped there because they're avoiding others, it's because they're proud of their culture. They enjoy eating their native dishes in restaurants and the shops of the district carry products from home.
Nothing racist about that, imo. I don't blame them for wanting to live in it.
edit to add:
IMO... there is no such thing as seperate races. There is only one human race and it extends across all nationalities everywhere.
[edit on 18/9/09 by masqua]
Over the course of the past year, the intensely hateful political environment of the U.S. has been a breeding ground for a rise in subtly phrased racism as well as fiercely overt bigotry. We all know why and we all know the cause, there's no reason to spend time reviewing such.
Originally posted by Stylez
what is your take on what racism has become known as where it seems a distinction in terms and definition is so varied