The Seven deadly Sins Revised: More Catholic Hypocracy......

reply to post by FlyersFan


Ahhh.....If only you were a moderator, then you may have half a chance of censoring what people want to say.
I do concur , now that you've pointed it out- that the thread you sited is indeed similar- yet not the same.
Unfortunately the link to the story no longer works on his OP.
AT any rate there are plenty of posted comments exactly with the predictable biblic quotes that really go nowhere, as your own.
Do you have an opinion on anything, that you dont try and justify with bible quotations?

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by spellbound
It is time someone ended the Roman Catholic Church. They are hypocites, they are sinners, and they have no right to brainwash poeple and proclaim what is right and wrong.

Matthew 16:18 ... Jesus gives them that right. It is the job of the Catholic Church to tell it's flock what it believes to be right and wrong. They are doing their job.

You don't like it??? Then ... Don't be Catholic.

I can see that this OLD NEWS is being portrayed as something that it's not ... and it's just being used as an excuse for another 'bash the Catholic faith' thread. A waste of bandwidth IMHO.

This is a lie. The church Jesus is talking about is not physical at all. He uses the rock to describe things which are built on wisdom, and sand for those that are not.

Try putting the verses in context please.

17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

18And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Tell me, how did Peter die?

The church is built out of understanding and wisdom and it is within. The kingdom of heaven is within, and so the keys to heaven are also within. As this church is built upon understanding and wisdom, it is both present on earth and in heaven, and what is gained and lost happens in both.

As it is within rather than the physical, no man can take it from you.

All that is being done is the catholic church is a replacement for it. No different than the pharisees sitting in the seat of moses. And of course this has happened because they killed anyone who didn't go along, which is prophecy fulfilled. True followers of Jesus have been killed over and over by the church. Jesus says those who believe will be hated and persecuted until the end, and your religion is one of the, if not the most powerful religion and belief systems on the planet.

You say he gave the church that power in that verse, but conveniently ignore the fact he said there is only 1 true teacher.

The only thing the catholic church and those churches based on it can expect to hear is Matthew 7. I know you not.

15Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

24Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

25And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

26And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:

27And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

28And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:

29For he taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.

And yet, according to you the Catholic Church has the power to do whatever it wants to do.

It's a Satanic Cult that got it's power through death and destruction while killing and torturing everyone who didn't go along.

Your post only goes to show just who they follow and serve, doctrines of men.


[edit on 25-6-2009 by badmedia]

Name one religious denomination that hasn't committed atrocities? Anything man-made has imperfections and there is no denying it. We are not perfect, although, some may disagree; but that is reality. Remember folks, ever since man walked out of the slime; there has been dark forces at work. These dark forces have influenced religion, government, academia, science, and other facets of the the human experiment. In terms of the church, it has skeletons in it's closet: the crusades, the inquisition, conquest of the new world, and others.

However, I find it disheartening all the Catholic bashers out there. These holier- than-thou types fail to look at all religions or any man-made institution in general. To me, any religion is like having a middle-man in terms of your relationship with the Almighty. If one needs spiritual guidance they can choose a church, but if one feels they can get salvation on their own accord by studying scripture; even better. No one forces any one to follow a certain religion and to just single out one denomination is ridiculous.

[edit on 25-6-2009 by Jakes51]

reply to post by KRISKALI777


Is there a Direct webpage, or information on this topic? i would like to research into it further.

Ah another religion telling me how my beliefs and life are flawed and that I am unworthy according to them. However, they cannot accept criticism from me. Religion, what a bunch of nonsensical fantasy driven crap. No surprise here.

I think I'll go harass some Mormons this weekend. They have tried to force their beliefs down my throat and condemned me for my beliefs. A little justice feels appropriate. A little dose of their own damn medicine.

reply to post by chris3340

Hi chris,
simply try the links in the OP, or alternatively Google: New Seven Deadly Sins.

reply to post by Jakes51


I don't disagree with you exactly. But I am just looking at their fruits/actions to decide what is real and what is not. When you label a belief system such as Catholic or whatever, then you are subscribing to that belief system. And so it is the belief system itself which is under scrutiny, as it is what teaches people such things. Again, based on it's fruits/actions and what it teaches.

I'm relatively sure individual people are individual people, so I know I am certainly not trying to attack individuals in this. Flyers Fan for example didn't go around killing people for their beliefs as far as I can tell, so it wouldn't be fair to hold them to such things etc. However, as they describe themselves as Catholic and so forth, then they are identifying their beliefs and so forth as that, and then that becomes under fire.

And that is hardly a Catholic only thing. That history is true of all religions in 1 form or another, and many of the things Catholics did/believe are a part of other denominations and so forth.

I usually give Catholics the benefit of the doubt on many things that get brought up. If there is any doubt at all, I would rather let it slide than falsely accuse. But some things we know for a fact are true; crusades, inquisitions, doctrines that go against the words of Jesus etc.

I don't know if you were talking to me or not, but just in case I want to clear that up. I deeply dislike religions as a whole, as they teach acceptance over understanding. But it is most certainly separate than the individual people, and it wouldn't be fair to put them on trial for the actions of the past. But we can't deny the past either.

reply to post by badmedia


Hi Bad,

I don't disagree with you exactly. But I am just looking at their fruits/actions to decide what is real and what is not. When you label a belief system such as Catholic or whatever, then you are subscribing to that belief system. And so it is the belief system itself which is under scrutiny, as it is what teaches people such things. Again, based on it's fruits/actions and what it teaches.

For me its of the utmost hypocracy to stand in an Ivory Tower, and then tell the minions that it is wrong (Sin) to have excessive wealth; and then within the same breathe pass around the collection plate or demand that individual members of a congregation pay 10% of their wage earnings as Tithe.
These pigs are stinking drunk, intoxicated with power and wealth; and use morals and empathy to consume and extort their own congregations.
Not only that; distort the followers views so much they become a willing zombie, frothing at the mouth to downplay anything said, that opposes there twisted cause or point of view. Burn them (as they've done to many innocents in the past)