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Originally posted by rogue1
Who invented paper, gunpowder, rockets ?
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
Originally posted by rogue1
Who invented paper, gunpowder, rockets ?
Not to be too picky but the paper was actually invented by the Egyptians who made it from papyrus reeds. The name paper itself comes from the word Papyrus. The Egyptians were already using papyrus sheets to write 1,500 years before the Chinese invented the more modern form of paper.
Originally posted by msnevil
China Vrs the US, Um what happened to the other countries?
You know, like the ones that fought China recently like Vietnam, Russia, India, Taiwan, S Korea?
China has a vast amount of troops on the borders with India, Taiwan, Russia, and Vietnam. And those countries also have a military presence on their borders as well. Btw- Taiwan and Vietnam still have small border clashes with China to this day. Taiwan has the US supporting it, and Russia supports Vietnam.
Why would China need to fight the US? When it owns the US economically. Thanks to the US politicians and apathetic US citizens!
Originally posted by pcgeek
I think since they have loaned us all of this money in the US is a big set up and we took it hook line and sinker.
Lets hope we are wrong
Originally posted by xoxo stacie
Let them show up! we can just snort like pigs, sneeze their way and watch them run !!!!
But seriously they have been building up for sometime it isn't just something that happens overnight people. We have known about it for over 12 years now.
Originally posted by msnevil
Originally posted by mattifikation
Whatever happened to "Speak softly but carry a big stick?"
That doesn't feed the children, support the jobless, nor provide social security. It doesn't pay for the National Endowment of the Arts, doesn't provide national health care nor provide climate control. It doesn't provide abortions on demand, gay marriages nor affirmative action.
Why worry about National security, when there are other "Bigger" problems to deal with. Like those mentioned above.
Originally posted by Bombeni
The turmoil in Pakistan is looking serious. We have had our attention on the swine flu while insurgents have inched closer to nuclear weapons.
Originally posted by Bombeni
reply to post by wonderworld
Hi WW, yes I agree it is going to go something close to that. Majority of middle east would like to see the demise of Israel and someday someone is going to try to achieve it. It would make whoever tried it only a notch below mohammud in the muslim world, maybe even equal.
The turmoil in Pakistan is looking serious. We have had our attention on the swine flu while insurgents have inched closer to nuclear weapons.
BEIJING -- China blamed the United States on Wednesday for the latest naval confrontation between the countries, after rejecting criticism by Washington that Beijing's rising military strength is focused on countering U.S power.
A U.S. Navy ship "violated" international and Chinese laws by entering what China considers its "exclusive economic zone" without authorization, Foreign Ministry spokesman Ma Zhaoxu said.
"It entered China's Exclusive Economic Zone in the Yellow Sea without permission from the Chinese side. China is concerned about it, and asked U.S to take effective measures to prevent a similar case from happening again," he said in a statement.
The Pentagon said the latest encounter occurred Friday in international waters when two Chinese fishing vessels came dangerously close _ to within 30 yards (27 meters) _ of the USNS Victorious as it was operating in the Yellow Sea.
The Victorious crew sounded its alarm and shot water from its fire hoses to try to deter the vessels in an hour-long incident, one official said. The vessels didn't leave until the Victorious radioed a nearby Chinese military vessel for help, said Defense Department spokesman Bryan Whitman.
The past month has seen a number of confrontations between Chinese vessels and U.S. Navy surveillance ships in the Pacific that have become almost a routine cat-and-mouse game on the seas.
There have been four incidents _ including last Friday's _ where Chinese-flagged fishing vessels maneuvered close to unarmed U.S. ships crewed by civilians and used by the Pentagon to do underwater surveillance and submarine hunting missions, two Pentagon officials said.
U.S. Defense officials have called the Chinese maneuvers dangerous and say they could lead to escalating problems.
Military tensions have increased as U.S. officials have increasingly spoken out about China's military spending and the country's lack of transparency.
Earlier this week, Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, said China's increasing military strength seemed to be focused on counterbalancing America's presence in Asia.
"They are developing capabilities that are very maritime focused, maritime and air focused, and in many ways, very much focused on us," Mullen said in Washington. "They seem very focused on the United States Navy and our bases that are in that part of the world."
An unidentified Chinese Defense Ministry official was quoted in Wednesday's Global Times newspaper saying that Mullen's remarks were "irresponsible and worked to the disadvantage of the development of Sino-US military relations."
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BEIJING -- China blamed the United States on Wednesday for the latest naval confrontation between the countries, after rejecting criticism by Washington that Beijing's rising military strength is focused on countering U.S power.
Originally posted by rogue1
Yes there are other countries, but they are not considered the biggest threat.
BTW. When was the last time Taiwan had a border clash ? or for that matter Vietnam after 1978. Those borders are peaceful. I certainly know Taiwan has had no problems with China in the last 20 years. In fact realtions are better than ever.
I have been across teh border from China into Vietnams Red River Valley area and didn't see any heavy military presence. In fact alot of trade comes across that border between the two countries.
Originally posted by rogue1
It doesn't. they need a buildup to better counter teh US interests in Asia. China has a long history of invasion, they want to be strong enough that it doesn't happen again - whihc means being the biggest kid on the block.
Beijing needs to stop freaking out over surveillance ships operating in international waters.
Originally posted by A Conscience
reply to post by Drexl
BEIJING -- China blamed the United States on Wednesday for the latest naval confrontation between the countries, after rejecting criticism by Washington that Beijing's rising military strength is focused on countering U.S power.
The US should practice the golden rule more than it preaches. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
I hope the US is not cranking up it false propaganda machine again. Not another Gulf of Tonkin incident.
Originally posted by A Conscience
What do you think the US would do, if unarmed Chinese ships crewed by civilians and used by China's Intelligence Agency to do underwater surveillance and submarine hunting missions off the coast of, let say, Florida, in international waters?
Chinese Vessels Approach Sealift Command Ship in Yellow Sea
By Jim Garamone
American Forces Press Service
WASHINGTON, May 5, 2009 – Chinese fishing vessels closed in on and maneuvered near the USNS Victorious in international waters in the Yellow Sea on May 1, Pentagon officials said today.
The Victorious is one of the five ocean surveillance ships that are part of the 25 ships in Military Sealift Command's Special Mission Ships Program.
The vessel was conducting routine operations 170 miles off the coast of China when two Chinese fishing vessels approached, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said.
“This was an incident where a couple of Chinese fishing vessels maneuvered close to the Victorious in what was an unsafe manner,” Whitman said.
The Victorious took defensive measures as the vessels got close. The Victorious crew sounded the ship’s danger alarms and manned fire hoses. They sprayed water at the Chinese vessels, but did not hit them, officials said.
The Victorious requested the assistance of a nearby Chinese government vessel, at which time the fishing vessels departed, Whitman said.
He did not comment on the motive of the Chinese vessels. “That requires you to get inside the heads of the mariners out there,” he said. “What is clear is that it is unsafe and dangerous behavior, and it needs to be addressed. We do not want the mariners of any of the vessels out there in jeopardy.”
One Chinese vessel approached within 30 yards of the Victorious, officials said. “They are clearly demonstrating unsafe seamanship,” Whitman said. “As we have in previous incidents, we’ll be developing a way forward to deal with this diplomatically.”
On March 8, five Chinese vessels surrounded the USNS Impeccable as it was conducting operations 80 nautical miles off Hainan Island. There have been other incidents where Chinese vessels operated in an unsafe manner around U.S. ocean surveillance ships.
“It’s in everybody’s interest to ensure that safe procedures on the seas are followed,” Whitman said. “This was clearly well into international waters.”
Military vessels are not subject to coastal state jurisdiction and do not require the prior consent of the coastal state for activity in the exclusive economic zone.
Originally posted by A Conscience
reply to post by Drexl
BEIJING -- China blamed the United States on Wednesday for the latest naval confrontation between the countries, after rejecting criticism by Washington that Beijing's rising military strength is focused on countering U.S power.
The US should practice the golden rule more than it preaches. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
I hope the US is not cranking up it false propaganda machine again. Not another Gulf of Tonkin incident.