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Originally posted by teklordz
reply to post by Shakesbeer
Thoughts are not our own. It's an illusion. We humans are receivers, we're just like radios capting a certain frequency. Thoughts are used on the human psyche to test our emotivity. It originates from the "source" (higher mental plane) but is manipulated by the astral entities. There are 3 reasons the astral entities manipulate thoughts we receive:
1- They have no choice, it's part of the laws of the astral world
2- It's their only way for a sense of vitality (feeling alive)
3- The astral world goal is to bring back the incarnated souls to their sphere or reality.
This illusion of thoughts is what i would call the great cosmic lie. It's purpose is to keep mankind under domination. I have said it before, freedom of the mind is the ultimate goal of humans on this planet.
Originally posted by teklordz
That is correct. Beliefs in anything is domination. You have to know, and to know, you have to experience.
Originally posted by teklordz
Yes, communication with the source can only be done during the incarnation, if the experience of the soul is sufficient.(many lifetimes)
And yes, that is why entities try to stop us into achieving consciousness.
Originally posted by teklordz
3- The astral world goal is to bring back the incarnated souls to their sphere or reality.
Originally posted by Shakesbeer
Originally posted by teklordz
That is correct. Beliefs in anything is domination. You have to know, and to know, you have to experience.
Okay here's where I'm going to have to disagree with you. Beliefs are the energetic "things" that perpetuate life itself within this "physical" reality. Your cells are literally guided by your beliefs,physiologically one manifestation of beliefs are peptides synthesized everyday whenever cognitive activity happens in the brain which gives instructions to your cells, just like when you decided to write out the belief you just got done stating above. So to say you have no beliefs is to say you are not currently incarnated on this Earth at the present percieved time of "now" & are currently being manipulated by "something else" while responding....so once again, who is dominating you? Because we can change beliefs easy enough; of that I am sure.
Btw so far you are not talking factually, you are speaking highly metaphorically. There is a huge difference my friend.
Originally posted by Mr Green
Originally posted by teklordz
3- The astral world goal is to bring back the incarnated souls to their sphere or reality.
Have they decided not to incarnate again then? Are they lost? Or do they just want us all back within their reality to stop total awarness?
Interesting.
Originally posted by Shakesbeer
reply to post by teklordz
-kicks the damn door open-
EEYUP! Been there before many times & back...!
so are you going to answer a question or what? You're assuming you're on some kind of higher "level" or something here but offering no substance to very crucial points of your philosophy.
Originally posted by teklordz
Originally posted by Shakesbeer
Originally posted by teklordz
That is correct. Beliefs in anything is domination. You have to know, and to know, you have to experience.
Okay here's where I'm going to have to disagree with you. Beliefs are the energetic "things" that perpetuate life itself within this "physical" reality. Your cells are literally guided by your beliefs,physiologically one manifestation of beliefs are peptides synthesized everyday whenever cognitive activity happens in the brain which gives instructions to your cells, just like when you decided to write out the belief you just got done stating above. So to say you have no beliefs is to say you are not currently incarnated on this Earth at the present percieved time of "now" & are currently being manipulated by "something else" while responding....so once again, who is dominating you? Because we can change beliefs easy enough; of that I am sure.
Btw so far you are not talking factually, you are speaking highly metaphorically. There is a huge difference my friend.
Morpeus to Neo, in the movie The Matrix.
"i can show you the door, but you have to open it"
Originally posted by Shakesbeer
reply to post by teklordz
So are you claiming to be a "dead" person of sorts right now then manipulating this message board from a hyper dimensional state not interacting with any "matter" directly? That seems to be what you are implying with your statements...especially considering I can keep going on about the physical reality of our beliefs being the driving force behind our bodies beyond chemicals....
So if you are incarnated right now, then you are totally kidding yourself & and submersed in your own illusion. Even if one has achieved bi-locality or teleportation, if you have a physical body synced to this "reality" you're susceptible to the same constants, you'd just be oscillating from one state to another.
So do you have a physical body or what?
Originally posted by Shakesbeer
reply to post by teklordz
So are you claiming to be a "dead" person of sorts right now then manipulating this message board from a hyper dimensional state not interacting with any "matter" directly? That seems to be what you are implying with your statements...especially considering I can keep going on about the physical reality of our beliefs being the driving force behind our bodies beyond chemicals....
So if you are incarnated right now, then you are totally kidding yourself & and submersed in your own illusion. Even if one has achieved bi-locality or teleportation, if you have a physical body synced to this "reality" you're susceptible to the same constants, you'd just be oscillating from one state to another.
So do you have a physical body or what?
Originally posted by Shakesbeer
reply to post by teklordz
Thank you for finally admitting your hypocrisies & you should really get over yourself. Thank you for your concern but I'm doing just fine with my astral travels and identify fear just fine
Originally posted by teklordz
I hope you find your own answers one day. Do not let the astral world dominate you or guide you in any way.
Originally posted by Mr Green
I think the whole thing is put there to confuse us.
Originally posted by Mr Green
Originally posted by teklordz
I hope you find your own answers one day. Do not let the astral world dominate you or guide you in any way.
I am starting to agree with you on this. I think the whole thing is put there to confuse us. The answers to astral travel depend on who you talk to, some say all our answers are found there and we should learn how to travel, others say dont even attempt it. There is also the belief that if we need to astral travel to some realm to be shown awarness we will be shown by higher guides anyway, so is there any point in this "learning to astral travel". Ive tryed many times and find it is a totally random thing, I go when someone wants to show me something , not just becasue I fancy a trip there.