Farmers up in arms at herb listing(UPDATED)

Farmers up in arms at herb listing

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Chilli, turmeric, ginger branded 'hazardous'

Farmers and traditional medicine experts have reacted angrily to the listing of 13 widely used herbal plants as hazardous substances, suggesting there is a hidden agenda that favours chemical companies.

The Industry Ministry listed the 13 plants as hazardous substances to control production and commercialisation.

The plants are widely used among farmers as alternatives for expensive and toxic farm chemicals, pesticides and herbicides.



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[edit on 11-2-2009 by ModernAcademia]

"Instead of tightening controls on these farmer-friendly herbal plants, the committee should crack down on multinational companies who exploit Thai farmers by luring them into buying their highly toxic and costly products," Mr Witoon said.

This is pretty bad in my opinion.

I had a sore throat, whatever the doctor prescribed made me feel worse, or it lessened the symptons but replaced it with worse symptoms. I also had a congested nose, so they gave me a nasal pump and now whenever i blow my nose it bleeds.

So I took ginger, my throat was better in 2 days.

I just hope that it doesn't get this bad in North America man, because that would make me want to move.

I use so many of the below image from source link.
I love ginger tea and many other ingredients below.

Also my mom has a swollen wrist, nothing helps other than way too much acupuncture. But whenever someone visits us from India we tell them to bring us NEEM, the first on the list and it works wonders.

Neem has sooooo manyyyyy medical benefits that it deserves it's own thread, google it you'll be pleaeantly surprised.

And of course we use tumeric alot too.




This video is interesting about behind the curtain things going on.

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[edit on 11-2-2009 by ModernAcademia]

I know nothing about neem but my buddy told me about it and said we need to get some for our survival packs.
It supposedly is easy to grow too.
Maybe you can make a thread about that as well.
I would but i know nothing about it yet.

it's easy to grow in the right climate
I planted a Neem tree once in Punjab

But what is going on is that these items that have medicinal values are being flagged because it takes money away from these pharma companies.

This is hedious to say the least.

Can anyone tell me, which of these items are exported to North America alot from Thailand? Are they trying to cut the source?

Every single day it’s another brick in the wall.
What we can do, and not do.
What we’re forced to do - or else.
What we can grow and eat, what we’re not allowed to grow, nourish and heal ourselves with.
If we’re allowed to care for ourselves and our families as we see fit - or commanded to do as the government rules.

Every single day another boundary is crossed, another right taken, another law imposed.

It’s headed in only one direction - total rule - without any personal rights what so ever.

I really wonder what the final straw will be before the collective camels back breaks.
And then if the camel will fight, or crawl along on four blooded stumps broken back and all.


peace

This is BIG and despicable!

This is the next huge move to insure that we do not use what is not profitable for the big guys - Monsanto (and the GMO) - Big Pharm and the like.
These are natural safe health products that WORK - that they cannot control.
This is scary.

This is the sort of action codex alimentarius are after..anything with any properties would be deemed a drug and regulated...even garlic.

[edit on 11-2-2009 by Solomons]

they did it to cannabis, why not other healing herbs as well.. and you all act surprised.

Originally posted by Solomons
This is the sort of action codex codex alimentarius are after..anything with any properties would be deemed a drug and regulated...even garlic.

Exactly!
I have a relatively moderate temper. But this sort of thing really makes me furious.
I and many others - depend on these herbs (not doctors) to stay well. They know it.

It is total control over health and food source.
These folks were using this as a natural healthy pesticide - but the GMO foods require Monsanto's "Roundup" pesticide - and Monsanto are desperate to get all food source Monsanto seed food source.

Please everyone watch the film - This is a bit of it.

THE WORLD ACCORDING TO MONSANTO
www.youtube.com...
www.greenpeace.org...




[edit on 11-2-2009 by spinkyboo]

sheeze I have been growing and using herbs all of my life and I still have trouble identifying them if they are not clearly marked... I would like to see them just try and bust people for their herb gardens...

Originally posted by antar
I would like to see them just try and bust people for their herb gardens...

Well they have already being doing that for a very long time

Wow , is all I can say.

I can see it now, what are you in for? I got busted fro growing garlic in my garage.

This is just getting crazier everyday.

I saw where they are saying that the tainted peanut butter was supposedly sent to school lunches. This is how they really get the attention of the people by exposing children.

I can see this paving the way for the terminator seeds where no one will be able to grow jack ####, for fear of salmonella or other health compromises.

As far as the herbs go, rewind in time back to the witch hunts, big pharma surely had a hand in that.

Same with Wilhelm Reich, made him destroy records of his work in the realm of healing in a cheap and effective way.

reply to post by ModernAcademia


I don't want to get off-topic here but I'm wondering HOW you use these for pesticides. Are they used ground up (i.e. grind up garlic and put it in the soil) or in plant form (i.e. plant garlic in areas you want to control)? Again, I'm sorry for off-topic but I figured I had better start growing some of these before you can't even get the seeds legally.


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Boy, this REALLY makes a person wonder. Not only might it "favor" chemical companies, these herbs might also just be the cures or antidotes to certain um things. Amazing what we try to regulate in the face of what we don't.

This sounds like moves made by the Codex Alimentarius. By listing nutrients as "toxins," they can control our intake of nutrients and even in GMO abundance can nutritionally starve us.

Yes, defining unpatentable items as "bad" makes money for those with patented stuff to sell.

Originally posted by Amaterasu
This sounds like moves made by the Codex Alimentarius. By listing nutrients as "toxins," they can control our intake of nutrients and even in GMO abundance can nutritionally starve us.

Yes, defining unpatentable items as "bad" makes money for those with patented stuff to sell.

This is exactly right.
They have been threatening this in this country as well for quite sometime.
The unfortunate part is that the new prez has hired the ex-agriculture man -
This would be a pro-Monsanto move.
This is very disturbing.

Looks like the big companies are trying to nationalize every farm in the world. Either you join them by growing their GMO crap or they will take your farm by hook or crook.
The local farmer is on the endangered species list worldwide.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Boy, this REALLY makes a person wonder. Not only might it "favor" chemical companies, these herbs might also just be the cures or antidotes to certain um things. Amazing what we try to regulate in the face of what we don't.

This should indeed make a person wonder.
These are indeed being controlled - BECAUSE of their natural healing capabilities.
They are not dangerous.
Our big Pharm medications - ARE dangerous.
Garlic is a natural antibiotic.
It will be next on their list.

Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman


I don't want to get off-topic here but I'm wondering HOW you use these for pesticides. Are they used ground up (i.e. grind up garlic and put it in the soil)

With garlic specifically, you boil a clove of garlic, in a pint of water, for an hour or two. You can then use this as a concentrate to add to your watering can, along with your regular water, and it helps keep pests away.