Georgia, U.S. to sign strategic partnership treaty

Georgia, U.S. to sign strategic partnership treaty

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TBILISI (AFP) — Georgia and the United States will on January 4 sign a strategic partnership treaty, the Georgian foreign ministry said on Thursday, in a move that risks again provoking Russian wrath against Tbilisi.

Post-war tensions between Russia and Georgia are already running high, a fact underlined Wednesday when Russian President Dmitry Medvedev launched an extraordinary personal attack on his Georgian counterpart Mikheil Saakashvili.

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[edit on 12/27/2008 by semperfortis]

TBILISI, Georgia: European Union observers say they disapprove of Georgia's decision to deploy armored vehicles to areas near the breakaway provinces of South Ossetia and Abkhazia.

The EU mission says Georgia's vehicle deployment does not violate the French-brokered peace plan that ended the country's August war with Russia.

But mission chief Hansjoerg Haber says in a statement issued Friday that the deployment "will not contribute to enhancing security situation."

Georgian authorities defend the decision to send Cobra light armored vehicles to protect personnel near the disputed provinces. They said 10 police officers have been killed in those areas since the war.

More than 200 EU observers are in Georgia monitoring the truce.

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How could the US possibly sign a strategic partnership treaty with such a dangerous party. Initially, I was of opinion that Russia was the aggressor in the South Ossetia war, but it has turned out it was Saakashvili who ordered first to shell towns in South Ossetia.

Russia had been waiting and provoking the Saakashvili government for quite some and Saakashvili turned out to be stupid enough to get caught in trap that was set up by Russia.

Currently, they are sending armored patrols to the SO border, which is a needless provocation and shows us that he will not hesitate to get others such as the US in a war with Russia. Although we don't know the contents as of yet, I see no reason why Russia should be provoked.



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Georgia is a loose canon and should not be allowed in NATO. One is getting deeply frustrated with former Soviet States using NATO membership, as an insurance policy, to poke Russia in the eye.

In fact, NATO is a toothless tiger. The European Union has effectively naturalised NATO with its own defence pact.

Originally posted by infinite
Georgia is a loose canon and should not be allowed in NATO. One is getting deeply frustrated with former Soviet States using NATO membership, as an insurance policy, to poke Russia in the eye.

In fact, NATO is a toothless tiger. The European Union has effectively naturalised NATO with its own defence pact.

Effectively is a big word. It's pitiful to see that Sarkozy, who was shown to be a perfect leader, has not been able to fully focus on the EU defence pact (due to the financial crisis), but a start has been made.

NATO has no relevance anymore since the Soviet Union is collapsed. It is merely a political weapon for the US and former Soviet satellite states. The US is against a EU military because it would undermine NATO, they say. The sooner it is dismantled, the better.

US has really let its standards down. Now US is allying with anyone and everyone who has common enemies with it. Screw democracy, screw fight against terror, screw sanity, screw long-term goals - no all US cares about is short-term approach to foreign relations. Georgia is a third-world tyranny (no it is not a democracy) run by a psychopath who is more fit to be a street thug than a President of a country.

This alliance between US and Georgia is meant to do only one thing - let Saakashvili cement himself and his regime in power. Will this allow Georgia to face-off against Russia succesfully or to regain South Ossetia or Abkhazia? No. Will it enhance US's security? No. It will however worsen relations between US and Russia, and Russia and Georgia.

This doesn't enhance Georgia's security either. Russia has already demonstrated that it does not want to invade Georgia. If it wanted to, it could have done so with ease in August. Instead Russia turned around and went back. Why would Russia want to invade Georgia in the future if it declined a chance to do so in the recent past?



Saakashvili on the other hand needs something like this to stay in power. He has made many enemies in Georgia, and he endangered Georgia's sovereignty with his idiotic behavior. Now he scared that his own people will depose him - unless US can step in and protect the poor son of a bitch.

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about i could find on what this Strategic Partnership Treaty' might encompass... i only found this article from Georgia:

civil.ge...


Saakashvili: Talks on Strategic Partnership Deal with U.S. Underway

Civil Georgia, Tbilisi / 22 Dec.'08 / 19:35


President Saakashvili said on December 22, that talks were underway on signing a strategic partnership treaty with the United States.

“It does not mean only systematization and putting in order of what was happening until now. If we sign this agreement – negotiations are still underway – it will mean that our relations with the greatest and strongest state of the world – our relations with this state will move qualitatively to a higher level,” Saakashvili said.

He said that the potential treaty would not be simply reflection of the current bilateral relations on the paper, but it will lay ground for even closer cooperation between the United States and Georgia, directed towards “Georgia’s future, security in this region, Georgia’s economic and political success.”

“The United States has never mentioned before that Georgia is its strategic ally – not in any statement, not in any agreement,” Saakashvili said. “If we achieve that this word – strategic – appears in these relations, this will be the clearest response to the aggression against Georgia, this will be the clearest response to the constant attempt to ruin and split Georgia.

Grigol Vashadze, the Georgian foreign minister, said on December 21, that he expected the treaty to be signed before the New Year.

In a separate remarks made on December 22, Vashadze said that the treaty would cover broad range of issues, including “unconditional and clear reaffirmation [by the United States] of Georgia’s sovereignty and territorial integrity and what is the most important – cooperation in defense and security, as well as unconditional return of displaced person and de-occupation of our territories.”

now, it seems to me that the Georgia-USA partnership arrangement fits
very well with the new administrations strategic-planner Z. Brezezinski, advisor for Obama...
who sees the central asia land mass which includes Georgia...
as a theater for American domination through treaties or by power struggles.


Maybe VP elect Biden referenced the behind-the-scenes manouvers like Georgia territory problems, as the forecasted 6 month debacle that Obama will face early on.


thanks... i corrected to link address






[edit on 27-12-2008 by St Udio]

Originally posted by St Udio
now, it seems to me that the Georgia-USA partnership arrangement fits
very well with the new administrations strategic-planner Z. Brezezinski, advisor for Obama...
who sees the central asia land mass which includes Georgia...
as a theater for American domination through treaties or by power struggles.

If Brzezinski sticks to this strategy he really is a political dinosaur who does not belong on the current international relations arena. He still has a mid-Cold-War mentality, that virtually everyone else has abandoned already.

The United States signed a treaty with Georgia to protect Israel. Look at a map. The shortest route to bring an army to Israel is through Georgia. Take the long view people. They come through Georgia, cross the northern portion of Irag, (against US forces at this point in time), then cross Iran and Syria with a free pass, and Bingo!. Israel faces a massive army on it's eastern border.
Hence the country is essentially surrounded.

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prove IT ??

It is nothing , but part of PNAC strategy , to surround Russia

Originally posted by kettlebellysmith
The United States signed a treaty with Georgia to protect Israel.

Where do people come up with this nonesense? Seriously? Russia attacking Israel?

Originally posted by kettlebellysmith
Look at a map. The shortest route to bring an army to Israel is through Georgia. Take the long view people.

OMG look at the map - Mexico is right between US and Guatemala. If US is to invade Guatemala, it must pass through Mexico, which is the shortest land route. That means US is about to invade Mexico. EVERYBODY PANIC.

Originally posted by kettlebellysmith
They come through Georgia, cross the northern portion of Irag, (against US forces at this point in time), then cross Iran and Syria with a free pass, and Bingo!.

Bingo! Russia has now plowed through Middle East, started WWIII, killed and lost millions of people, and is now ready to invade a tiny country called Israel. WHY?

Originally posted by kettlebellysmith
Israel faces a massive army on it's eastern border.
Hence the country is essentially surrounded.

Is this a joke? It better be.

Basically, you've hit the nail on the head. WWIII. Sorry if it offends you, but just look at a map. Don't take my word for it.

, December 29 (RIA Novosti) - Georgia is moving tanks and armored vehicles closer to the border with South Ossetia, the Georgian breakaway republic said Monday.

"According to intelligence reports, Georgia has moved 28 tanks to Gori, where a tank battalion is stationed. In addition, Cobra armored vehicles have been spotted in the village of Nikozi near the South Ossetian border," the state committee on information and press said in a statement.

en.rian.ru...

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Thanks from linking story, I will do other way around...

Thanks. It's pitiful threads cannot be merged since you have some interesting information over there.

Anyhow, I hope their troop movements are not a result from the partnership treaty Georgia and the US recently signed.

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The only troop movement you are going to see, is more Georgian troops deployed in Iraq.

I think that this allience between US and Georgia is a temporary substitute for having Georgia in NATO. Looks like Georgia's entrance into NATO has stalled because of discontent of some European members. Now US needs an alternative to cement relations with Georgia before any more political developments.

[edit on 29-12-2008 by maloy]

TBILISI, January 5 (RIA Novosti) - Georgia will sign a strategic partnership treaty with the United States on January 9, the Georgian Foreign Ministry said on Monday.

The agreement will be signed in Washington by Georgian Foreign Minister Grigol Vashadze and U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, the Foreign Ministry spokesman said. The signing was originally scheduled for Sunday but was delayed by recent events in the Middle East.

The United States signed a similar deal with Ukraine earlier this month, which along with Georgia is hoping to join NATO. The alliance pledged to boost ties with the two ex-Soviet countries at a ministerial meeting earlier in December, although it did not offer them Membership Action Plans, which provides assistance to countries wishing to join NATO.

The details of the pact have not been announced, but according to preliminary information it will include support for reform in Georgia and strengthening of the country's armed forces.

Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili has said that by establishing a strategic partnership "with the biggest and strongest state in the world ... relations will reach a new level of security not only in Georgia, but in the whole region."

"With the agreement signed Georgia will become stronger and will be able to travel the path to restoring its territorial integrity," he said.

Georgia lost control of Abkhazia and South Ossetia in bloody post-Soviet conflicts in the early 1990s. The two republics, bolstered by Russian peacekeepers, have had de facto independence since then, and have been a bone of contention between Georgia and Russia.

Russia recognized Abkhazia and South Ossetia as independent states on August 26, two weeks after a five-day war with Georgia, triggered by Tbilisi's attack on South Ossetia.

Source: Ria Novosti

Basically. NATO in itself is pretty much powerless, countries do what they wanna do, look at the US.

This is pretty much a poke at Russia. This combined with that strategic missile defense Russia is gonna pull something to show they got that clout too...