Pleiadian Talk - Messages from the Great White Brotherhood

Sounds like you are confusing Pleiadians with the so called Greys.

Pleiadians, and many other so called aliens, look just like humans - basically because they ARE human, the ancestors of the human race on Earth.

The human race is one of the most wide spread species of life in the universe, existing and living in planets around the galaxies. Some are more advanced than others, and some are less advanced, some planets have been seeded more recently, such as Earth, while others do not even longer exist and those whom lived there have now ascened and exist in spirit form.

-Maggador

[edit on 2-11-2009 by IX-777]

I was going to reply to you line by line, but I have decided to simply be done with this by delivering the quote you asked for.

Originally posted by IX-777
And, am I really shifting from "love" to advocating "war" ? If so, feel free to quote me on that - I certainly have no interest in participating in any wars nor do I encourage such acts. Peace, harmony and balance is the key for me - and this is what I advocate and try to teach others to obtain as well.
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www.abovetopsecret.com...

To the followers of this thread.

Look, this guy can't even keep his story straight. I'm not about to post his private information, but from information that he has posted on this site, you can find other webpages and information that he has posted claiming to be a 'Righteous follower of Jesus the Christ' and a 'Soldier of God'. He also seems to have an affinity for violent and misogynistic music.

So much for enlightenment.

I'm done.

The only thing apparent is that you lack the ability to understand methaphors and symbolical speaking.

Does a person have to be Christian to be fond of Jesus? Do you think Jesus called himself Christian? Or that he would even consider modern day Christianity to be what he was trying to teach 2000 years ago?

As I have stated, I am not part of any religion, nor do I intend to become affiliated with any religion, as there are too many problems and falsness in all known religions, and they are perverted and far from the original truth they were based upon.

That does not mean I cant be part of practising, studying and being interested in what such religions originally were based upon - without actually being part of any such religion myself. Most religions are based upon spiritual experiences and mystical truths - and that is what I am following and practising.

Experience is the only way, belief will lead nowhere.

And yes, I listen to a lot of different music, trying to use my musical taste against me is just hilarious and ludicrous and the top of ignorance. I most certainly do not agree to the lyrics of all music I listen to, I am a musician myself so I listen to the music, the instruments, the melodies.

Regarding me being a Soldier of God - are we not all, in the end? After all, we do come from the same Source. That does not make me Christian or part of any religion, but it does make me spiritually aware.

Best wishes, and peace be with you.

-Maggador

reply to post by IX-777


..... there's only one confused person in this conversation ,

............. and it ain't me .


I know what greys look like , and Pleiadians , so you'd better update

YOUR information !!!!!

.... you are at the 5th level of DENSITY

[edit on 3-11-2009 by radarloveguy]

Apparently you are the one whom do not know what a Pleiadian look like. What is your sources ? Whomever they are, they have disinformed you.

And, 5th density, that is a new age term and has no relevance. People consistently ask how to move on to other densities and the answer is simple: Everyone move on to the so called other densities - at the time of death.

Death is the only gateway to other densities.

The easy way to say it is that you move from a physical existence to a non-physical existence. Indeed there are different levels of non-physical existence as well, such as different energetic host bodies such as the astral body, all whom are containers for your consciousness, and all keeping you at specific astral levels depending on your vibrational level - which corresponds to the astral body you find yourself in.

This is similar to how you now find yourself in a low level density world because of a physical dense body on a low vibrational level that can not under any circumstance move towards other densities as the only way to do so is to leave the shell of the physical body and venture on in spirit form - whether that is by your astral body or pure consciousness.

Blessings,
Maggador

Originally posted by IX-777

I experimented with various systems, techniques, exercises and methods for many years before I found what really worked and what didnt, and started to understand how the universe works and the laws and principles and divine forces that governs it all.

Could you share with us some of your experiments??

Originally posted by IX-777
I became member of several other secret orders and mystery schools and easily accessed many highly secret and little known about societies due to my own background and my fathers role in such an Order, and I got more and more books on these subjects and my knowledge and insights expanded in incredible ways.

And how you get involved in so many societies?
And how you could change these and become member of a different one each time?Is it so easy?Why haven't you been killed?

Originally posted by IX-777
So I traveled to Mexico and stayed there for a while doing my research and studies on the ancient monuments such as pyramids, temples and other structures that are found around there.

And what did you find?What is the result of your research?

Originally posted by IX-777
...as a member of the Great White Brotherhood...

Ok.Tells us the members of this brotherhood.

Who knew this thread would come back to life? And you've got your hands full with these in-the-dark skeptics, to boot.

Who are any of you to tell this guy what he is or isn't? And more importantly, who cares?

I believe we will all have quite a full plate very shortly, I'd say, why not just agree to disagree, unless your egos are really that large.


I, on the other hand, believe you are who you think you are... aren't we all?

Originally posted by blujay
Who are any of you to tell this guy what he is or isn't? And more importantly, who cares?

I think we don't tell this guy what to be.We want THE TRUTH.Is it so difficult to find it?

I suppose yes with all these threads in the HOAX section.

reply to post by kapodistrias

No. I believe you will find it within. No one can tell you anything is true or not true, you have to find that out for your self.

IX-777,

1. Did Grey Aliens really take some humans to a remote planet in the Pleiades?

2. Is there a Federation in space somewhere?

3. Is there an Old Empire working behind the scenes to keep humans trapped on prison planet Earth forever?

4. How many different alien species do you know of?

5. What do you think of this?:
diverse.freepage.de...

6. From which planetary systems did humans on Earth come from?

7. Were religions currently on Earth made just to control the mass population?

8. What do you think of John Titor and his story?

9. Do humans in a matter universe get reincarnated into an anti-matter universe after dying?

10. What do people on Pleiades generally do in their leisure time? Are there televisions, computers like on Earth, PS3-like or Xbox 360-like video game consoles on Pleiades, etc...?

Thank you.

[edit on 3-11-2009 by sphinx551]

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" 9. Do humans in a matter universe get reincarnated into an anti-matter universe after dying? "

Humans go antimatter after physical death. We are an illusion of our own 'creation'. At the transition time, we'll be back in anti matter. Reincarnation is then your next go around on Earth until you manage to ascend out of here and on to your next adventure in the higher dimensions.


[edit on 3-11-2009 by blujay]

kapodistrias:

My experience is extremely wide as I have been involved with a lot of different systems, teachings, philosophies, practices, orders, societies and so on.

So thus, my experiments are also of quite a significant amount. But, to tell you some experiments I have done and found out to be useful and working, I can mention the now rather famous Law of Attraction, which is probably the main and most important of all "powers" - What you think, believe, want, will, fear, desire, lust for, hate, and so on will manifest in one way or the other in your life. Thus, the rather cliche "positive thinking" is actually a rather good method. A good mind is a good life. Your Mind is the generator of All experiences in your Life, what is internally will reflect itself externally. This is a great truth to recognize as it will give you great powers over your own life. A lot can be said about this alone, but suffice to say that being positive, helpful, friendly, knowing your goals and believing and knowing you will reach them - and indeed even imagine that you already have what you want, will bring forth those things eventually. On the opposite, being worried, afraid of failure, negative, sad, angry, frustratred etc will only bring more negative influences to your life. When you recognize your emotions and where they come from, you will be in control of them, and no longer need to suffer from such negative emotions but instead be filled with bliss and great joy at all times, freedom and self confidence, knowing that everything is possible.

Other things I have experimented with successfully are things such as astral projection and out of body experiences, communication with spirits, evocations and invocations, channeling, dowsing, scrying, tarot, telekinesis, chi related powers, psi energy, telepathy, various forms of magick - both white, grey and black, different rituals and ceremonies for achieving various goals, spells, sigils, various forms of meditations, teleportation, invisiblity, posessing other bodies, and much more. In addition I have witnessed many interesting performations by other people in various situations I have been and still am involved with.

I got involved with many secret orders and societies because of being born into one, having friends and family members of some, and thus later on getting to know further people whom are members of various others and have helped me in. I do not change and become member of different ones at each time, I am member of several at the same time.

I have not been killed because I am of no threat per se, and I keep my work within acceptable limits to avoid the worst fate. But I have been tried shut down several times - but I have friends in high places protecting me as well, there are good orders and people out there just as there are bad ones so to speak.

The result of my research and findings it a whole topic on its own, and I am currently writing a book about it, it involved the location of Atlantis, the truth of ancient civilizations and mystical traditions, the origins of mankind and secret orders, and whom are controlling this world and why and how they got in power, and our true nature - among other things.

I can not name any specific members of the Great White Brotherhood as we are mostly anonymous. Some signifcant already known personalities includeds ascended masters like St Germain, Kuthumi and El Morya among others. There are earthly members as myself and members and leaders of some previously mentioned orders as well.

-Maggador

IX-777 I would like to say before I start, that although I am using your quotes, I am not aiming my replies toward you. I am merely offering the rest of the members an alternative explanation and will not carry on a debate about each subject I have chosen. I respect that you feel this way, though I also believe it's okay to offer up other information and let people trust their own intuition on wht is truth.


"You are NOT here for any "purpose" - you are here because you are TRAPPED, in the ILLUSIONS and PROGRAMMING."

-Life is a gift, not a curse. It's a wonderful experience that many have chosen to take for granted. Many sit and waste their day , many complain, vent, and concentrate on negativity and they forget to look at the beauty and the opportunities around them. We all experience pain but we all experience joy too. If we get here only to search for a way out we are losing an opportunity to learn and grow from our time here. When we are faced with an obstacle there is always something we can take from that/learn and progress with. I do not know if there is a purpose to every single molecule on Earth, but I do know it would be a shame to waste our opportunity here in the physical. We are not trapped here, but chose to come to the most difficult planet/dimension in order to learn. It is like taking the most difficult class in school-painful? yes! worth it? Yes! We all wanted to be here. Our souls are not forced by anyone but our own decision making-I saw spirit guides mentioned in this thread. This is how we obtain a guide. We 'chose' them before birth to help guide us on our 'chosen' path in a learning environment.
Would your child be better off in a classroom that only taught them to count and do ABC's when they have reached a high age of 10? Wouldn't your child, a much more advanced student than age 5 do better in an environment that also taught them something a little more difficult-more advanced? Try to understand that although this world may be full of many foolish people (souls on their first try) Earth has some pretty advanced students who are here to learn more than a spirit body can give them.
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"With recreational drugs, that could mean many things. But I can tell you this, Nature is supplied with certain Tools that are put in place by Higher Beings as a way to help the People realize their true Beings and what lies beyond the Physical "Reality""


Not all in nature is supplied for all creatures nor is all of nature used correctly. Many herbs and plants that are and have been used today as means to 'have a good time' or experience 'hallucinations' were used for medicinal purposes.
The snake is a beautiful creature, it is natural and set there by a creator but I'm not foolish enough to pick it up and let it bite me. Not all of nature is there for our purpose nor is it there to be abused.

For those of you who may not know , I work with healers who reside in the spiritual realm. They have guided me on a path to learning about keeping my body and energy at a high vibrational level-in order to keep my clairvoyance at its best. High vibrational foods are what you'd expect-fruits, vegetables, grains, water..etc..Low vibrational foods are those that alter our way of thinking, slow down our perception , kill neurons, or carry with it suffering (in the case of meat which has a lifetime of vibrations people consume) We are consuming energy when we enter something into our body. As a medium as well as a psych student I know that there is a huge difference between hallucinating and having a vision. I have never needed anything to have a vision.It's within us all naturally. There is nothing stopping us from reaching spiritual knowledge while keeping our body safe from harm, and yes hallucinogens cause neurons to be damage.
www.faqs.org...

I have more to share, though my posts word counts run out

[edit on 7-11-2009 by Zerra]

Listen man. It's easy to search you up on the net, your a regular joe guy who listens to violent music.

You are not an alien. You are doing this to make money.

Sphinx551:

1. - No, the grey aliens do not seem to be physical beings interfering with such matters and personally I have never seen any grey nor heard from any reliable source of such being coming to Earth in physical form.

2. - Yes, there are various World Federations, for lack of better terms, similar to treatises like the UN and such here on Earth. There are worlds working together, just as there are countries doing the same, and there are Worlds whom are enemies, just as with Countries. Some Worlds have both Friends and Foes between eachother on their respective planets, just as countries here on Earth have both such in regards of other countries here as well.

There is however no "Galactic Federation" waiting to help or assist Earth, no space crafts will come to save anyone.

3. - Yes there is an ancient group of entities enslaving humanity, I have written about this matter before, so I will quote a part from my website on this issue:

It is the programming of the Mind that keep you in the physical body, yet this also is true for the astral body, as the astral body is not the Soul or your True Self any more than your physical body. Though, nevertheless, you are still spiritual beings trapped currently in physical bodies because of this Programming of the Mind.

With what I say, there will always be someone who agrees and some who don't, it is impossible to speak in a way that all will accept and understand simply because of the difference between peoples level of self-realization and personal beliefs and so on. For me it doesn't matter if you dislike what I say, or the way I say it, you are entitled to feel or believe anything you want in regards of me and my claims.

Good and evil exists all over the physical realm, I do not mean that is is simply something that exist here on Earth or in the Human race. In fact it does exist on many levels, what I am referring to is higher spiritual planes of existence where it can not exist due to the specific vibrational levels, or frequencies if you want, that these planes exist within.

The most important thing you can ever study is Yourself, and the best person to ever listen to is You, and more people should spend more time on both those things.

You can listen to me and make what you want of what I say, but truly listen to yourself instead of anyone else to find the real answers.

Good and evil is an illusion of the lower astral realms, as the whole physical world and lower realms are illusions as well created around us to keep us here. Yet, you can say they are real, as they do exist even though in their illusional form. In a sense the same way as a fantasy, where you make up something in your mind that do not exist, yet at the same time it does exist since you just made it up and got it in your mind, in the form of said fantasy.

Here, we are part of someone elses fantasy however. We all also contribute to it ourselves and take part of creating it.

These "others" are those whom are controlling you through your programming and the illusions you live within, even though these themselves also are living in the illusions and do not know their own true being. Some of them are the ones you refer to as the "Elite" constantly here, and some of them are the ones working with the "Elite" from other planes of existence, yet within the same Illusion.

They are abusing the system that was created to control you by the "God" I previously mentioned, the original Creator left but the System was still in place and kept you here and made you easy to abuse, manipulate and control, and thus these entities took the chance when they discovered this.

You are responsible for accepting a belief. You did a mistake - we all did - from getting lured, but there is a way out of the net that was cast upon you willingly, and eventually everyone will be free.

The so called enlightened beings can explain what is happening simply because they can observe the Good and Evil from their own point of view, such as from visiting these lower realms. So that means they too can be exposed to it, when being down here, yet it is non existing in their own higher realm, though that do not mean they have no knowledge about it - as I explained, it exist yet still does not, as the metaphor I used in my example with Fantasy.

I'm talking about matters that took place in the very distant past before your first physical incarnation. It was at this moment you let yourself into the physical bodies being lured and blindly believing what you were told by the God of those times, who wanted his Human Bodies who inhabit a Human Soul essence, for them to work properly, and with a complex level of programming and systems implemented, so that these who fell for the trick got trapped, yet still some managed to escape as they could see what was coming and did not get tricked like the majority and thus they managed to escape and enter other realms, some of you know these original peoples, interdimensional ones at they were then and not physical as now, as the Atlanteans. And now you are learning from this mistake and slowly realizing it and on your way to let the clouds clear and let the light in from your True Origins and the Source of All

The first Maniupalator was the God I'm speaking of, but as he left after some time and he was satisfied with the work he had done and used the humans for, other entities eventually came upon you and discovered how you were programmed and blind and easy to manipulate and take advantage of, so they did. The rulers have changed from time to time, but the rulers of top level are those of a more negative, powerhungry and sinister type. Their agenda is to gain more power and control, by having people working for them mostly without even knowing it, or worshipping them as their Gods and so on which further empowers them, as the energy you give out you get back.

Here on earth they mostly use the religious and spiritual institution and banking and money for their models put in place for control and power. Their God in a sense is Money, which they have created, and made you worship as well. With the religions you are mostly worshipping them and thet Old God as well, as that's what these were intended for. They also run the larger industries, governments and such, to keep their control in place and feed the people with more suggestions and lies that they are open to believe.

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(continued from answer 3 above)

They are smart, and they are on "both sides", and they use all means they can do further program you and manipulate you from spiritual means, to education, news & media, foods and the mind altering substances they put in them, vaccinations and health institutions and medicine and the pharmaceutical industry, through technological means such as sound frequencies, radiations, water systems, anything they can alter and pollute with their methods and products to make your mind dull, filled with apathy, more open for suggestion, and trustworthy of your media, leaders and so on.

I applaude those of you whom not blindly believing anything, in fact I highly praise people who follow their own intuition and highly encourage people to not listen to what I say as being facts, but look some up yourself and listen to your inner guide, though perhaps take some of the things I say in consideration as it may be useful for certain new insights to come. But this world has its great share of way too gullible people who believe anything they are told, that is also one of the reasons I am here to tell them to not listen to what I say or what anyone else say - the greatest truth you can find you will find from within yourself.

Even the higher entities are also living within the illusions to great extents and even though they are of good and pure intentions, far from all have discovered their True Self, or the Connection with the All. However, once reestablishing your contact with the All, your true Oneness, it all will become clear.

Evil is a lower level reality, indeed, but because of the lower level God wanting to have the Powers and Control as a Real God would.

Thus, from originally kindness, pureness, and even neutrality, sprouted what we can now term as evil, which in turn made a difference between Good and Evil.

The lust grew, and thus, as his power grew, he made sure to take advantage of you in every way he could - and even though he left this programming is still here.

You are NOT here for any "purpose" - you are here because you are TRAPPED, in the ILLUSIONS and PROGRAMMING. The only time you will "ascend" or go "further" is when you realize this and manage to keep your awareness with you at the time of death.

The only thing you will learn here is what deception and lies and illusions are - not because you are "supposed to", but because you have been forces to, partitially by your own choice.

Your purpose is higher, your real selves are cleaner, more pure, here you are just a small grain of your own selves, if even that. You barely know even the slightest about yourself and your origins - and the small things you know are mostly lies and deceit, so it leaves you with even less.

Remember, you are on one of the lowest forms of existence, and there are MANY gods and creators above you responsible for the different realms and programming which you reside within.

The GOOD thing is that you can also create and be Gods, as you too have these powers within you because in the end you are all One and part of the Ultimate Source, thus you can control and dictate your own lives if you want to - as long you learn how to.

First part is to realize you are here in a world of lies and deceit put upon you, the next part is to move towadrs your truer self, even though it takes some time to get to the real core.

What you experience, is no matter how wonderful it seems, part of the lower realms illusions. Of course, you are free to stay there, and if you want to go further and get to know yourself at a deeper level you are free to do so as well

I will not tell "this is right" and "that is wrong" - in fact I will leave that up to you to figure out.

Nevertheless, what many of you have found is that there is "something" beyond your normal waking reality, and something beyond your "dreams" - look further, and you might just get your foot prints over the place and experience a completely new aspect of yourself.

There is no need for me to ask you to believe anything, nor is there any need for me to ask you to disbelief anything, it is your free choice after all - I am just here as someone whom have gone through those choices before you and thus may be able to help you towards a greater and somewhat easier progress to reach the level of attunement I have reached

Aftter all, I am NOT god, nor am I The All - You are! - Do NOT listen to MY words, listen to YOUR OWN WORDS, then see what comes.

4. - If you are talking about physical alien species I personally know only of a handful. Spiritual entities on the other hands are countless.

5. - Some of those illustrations represent real physical entities, some represent spiritual entities, and some are pure fantasy.

6. - The last one was Mars, jumping over Moon on the way. Before that, countless of Galaxies have been explored and still is being explored. The main seeders of Earth are those now known as the Pleiadians.

7. - Yes, religions were created to blind people from true spirituality and understanding, and create a race of slaves and ignorant people, by those evil entities in power and control whom still rule this world.

8. - His story is true, in the sense that what he speaks of is possible and real and being done here on Earth and elsewhere. If he himself actually was a time traveler, or just someone with enough inside information to make up the story, I do not know. But it is based on truth.

9. - When dying you either reincarnate, get stuck in lower astral realms, or ascend to higher planes of existence - among other things. This is a big topic to discuss.

10. - Meditate, explore, work with the arts and science, enjoy eachothers company, help and heal, and assist other entities and beings in achieving self-realization and deeper understanding of their true nature. We also constantly explore the higher concsiousness of our own true being, the Souce, God - all of Existence, and we help and assist beings in need of peace and harmony.

We do have technologies too used for mainly positive and useful purposes related to the above, and to maintain a peaceful way of life, and take care of our home worlds - and yes we do enjoy our share of fun and leisure too, from music to mind games and creative work.

-Maggador

Originally posted by IX-777
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5. - Some of those illustrations represent real physical entities, some represent spiritual entities, and some are pure fantasy.

Which ones are pure fantasy if you don't mind I ask?

Also, did you ever see or read this book? Is this book factual, somewhat factual or fiction?:
www.courtneybrown.com...


[edit on 7-11-2009 by sphinx551]

"However, I can say, the biblical term "there were giants in those days" relates to the Pleiadians. "

That may be so, whose to say. Though we would be considered giants had we visited the people (from the bible-in their location). With increased health care and nutrition we have grown taller. Knights in Europe for example , their armor could fit a person with the height of 5'2. So if you are of a culture where height is 5'2 let's say, you meet up with a trib eof people who average a height of 5'8 or 6 feet, you will think you are looking at giants or mystical beings.

sphinx551:

I am somewhat familiar with Courtney Brown, as I have tried out his free Scientific Remote Viewing course. That course was very successful and useful to me, and the results I achieved were the goals put forth in the exercises.

Thus, I know he certainly knows how to properly do remote viewing, and that he thus should be able to properly perceive things through such methods.

However, I have not read the book in question, and I am not familiar with his personal observations, so I can not comment on that until I read the book - something I will do as I have personal experience with most of the things I noticed the book is about and thus can see if it holds any truths or not.

So, with that said, I will comment on the book later on when I have read it, for now I recommend you to check out his free remote viewing course as it is quite interesting and useful and you can learn to observe for yourself the mysteries of the universe.

His website is www.farsight.org and the whole course can be downloaded for free at this direct url: www.farsight.org...

Blessings
-Maggador

I have a couple more question and I will stop asking for a while.

1. Are Grey Aliens intentions good to humans?

2. What do you think of Expanding Earth theory? Any truth to it?

3. What do you think of Hollow Earth theory? Any truth to it?

4. Did you encounter or had any experiences with Lion-like aliens from a planet that is orbiting Sirius A?

5. Does Nibiru and Anunnaki really exist?

Thanks.
I think that should be it for now.

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