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Originally posted by tgambill
The lies go back at least to Woodrow Wilson, FDR, and the rest except later in his administration JFK, who was killed when he was going to expose the conspiracy that we are dealing with now. Bush, Clinton, Bush Jr, and now Obama all work together for this conspiracy that they think will make up the one world government. Evidence is overwhelming. Long story short.

I have heard nothing about the JFK murder being connected with him planning on exposing a conspiracy, wow.... Off to do research

And as much as i hate to admit it, Clinton, in my beliefs, is to dumb to have anything to do with something this big..
And as for Bush jr., He has done anything but to help tie knot's that would help for a one world gov.

I can send privately a list of major references, books, links etc.....

The presidents, all except maybe FDR, Bush's, have been dupes or just place holders. They are told what to do. Reagan started off right, had the right ideas and soon learned that he was not in charge. The 1964 speech he gave for the Goldwater convention talked a lot about this....

Anyway, the presidents with the exception of Bush Sr. are not planners by no stretch of the imagination. Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar. ALL, Rhodes Scholars are trained to be globalist and to help foment the World Government. Cecil Rhodes was a real card and designed it just for this purpose. Some even pretend to be on our side for another specific strategy of bringing this conspiracy into the public view after 1990's.

Clinton and his affair was part and partial to take our minds off of us going into Kosovo which was a major operation. There were other reasons for this affair to be spread on the news day and night.

JFK, changed when he got into office. The Kennedy's were Illuminati and it appears that they have been not in the best graces of the Illuminati. JFK, reference his secret society speech, full version, was going to disclose this truth and actually go after them and the Mafia, their invention also in the 1890's by Mazzini. Anway, JFK avoided our second attempt at a military coup from 1960 to 1963. We still had one but it was silent. JFK was going to splinter the CIA, Eliminate the Federal Reserve, print Silver Certificates or hard currency, which he did but it was short lived. He was going to pull troops out of vietnam, and check the Israeli's from building the reactor in Dimona. He screwed them up from WWIII when he called off the Bay of Pigs, and his second opportunity was the set up and BS about the missiles in Cuba. We were supposed to go to WWIII then.

The next time a military coup would be planned the first in 1933, the second 1960 to 1963 and the third in September 1972, with Nixon. All failed to go through with. Amazing story......anyway, the fourth is coming soon and will lead to the North american Union and the AMERO...etc....

Originally posted by Gunsron

Originally posted by angel of lightangelo

What makes ya feel stupider? Getting lied to by Bill Clintion or by George Bush.

I for one would rather not be lied to by either one of them.... Conforming to the fact that your being lied to does not help make things better.
We have to call for trueth, and justice and call canidates from both side's out on their lies... Not just make our dicisions based on who is smarter with their word or who lied better...


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A sarcastic joke. Sorry people do not get that.

My point was that we have been lied to by every president. The last 8 years we were lied to by someone who could not string more than two syllables together or get his story to match the footage. No one stopped him from lying, like every president before him. So, I will assume Barack will also lie. Since I cannot settle for an honest politician anytime soon, since we cannot dig one up, I was kidding that at least this one can lie convincingly. So sorry that statement caused so much harm here.

Funny thing is, Bush Sr, Clinton and Bush JR are all on the same agenda and time table......same conspiracy and same bath tub.

Originally posted by Forest
The idea itself to get kids/young adult to do devote x amount of time to community service is a noble idea, hey, better than watching t.v. or playing video games all summer or on weekends. But, mandatory? There's no way this will fly. But, I've seen and heard many interpretations of what this program would actually do, and how it will actually work. So only time will tell how exactly this program will work.

50-100 hours isn't that bad. that's like 1-2 hours a weekend for 50 weekends. When it's broken down like that, it doesn't sound that bad.

The more and more I hear about it, the more and more it seems to move from community service to something else..

I liked John Kerry's idea actually. His plan was optional. If you did so many hours of community service at the end of your senior year those hours would be added up and depending on how many hours you did that's how many years of free community college you'd get. I think it's a good option for people who aren't really "made" for the military. It's a good second option for low income and middle class people.

Originally posted by tgambill
Sorry about that. I will say however that this is the same subject matter. The Conspiracy encompasses the reeducation camps, Global warming, CFR, New World Order......I've studied this for years and lived it in the middle, while in Kosovo the CFR, Bilderbergers and other thinktanks control all this for a purpose. People are not connecting the dots to the connections these people have made. The MK Ultra, Jesus Camps and Obamas Civiliam Security force are all connected.....

You're kidding right? I hardly think Obama is connected to the "Jesus Camp" people. They much less would have nothing to do with him as well. Good grief.

No, consider an octopus with its head and arms with the suction cups.

The main organizing body is the Illuminati family,
Astor
Bundy
Collins
DuPont
Freeman
Kennedy
Li
Onassis
Reynolds
Rockefeller
Rothschild
Russell
Van Duyn
Merovingian (European Royal Families)
Top 13 Families & Mormon Leadership (Moriah & Mormon Leadership)

Interconnected families:
Disney
Krupp
McDonald

The Conspiracy is the rule and not the exception. The evidence is irrefutable and if you want references, its not a problem You have one layer or inner group that is not aware of the existence or links each have. Wall Street funded Lenin, Trosky, Bolsheviks, and Wall Street even funded Hitler. [Prescott Bush, DuPonts, IBM, Rockefeller, and many more]

26 March 1922 - Quote from Mayor John F. Hylan "The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen....At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties." New York City Mayor John F. Hylan, 1922

JFK takes about it in a speech you can listen too
Congressman Larry McDonald talks about it

both are dead as many more before have been assassinated, blackmailed, bribed, threatened or duped.

On the octopus analogy, each arm is interconted. Jesus camps are experiments in mass control as this martial law will move to fruition soon.

1928 - What benefits did I.G. Farben have to give the Nazi Party? Just to name a few, besides a laundry list of other war supplies, Zyklon B, the gas used by Auschwitz, Bitterfeld, Agfa, lduwigshafen, Buchenwald, Hoechst and a few others. These boys also produced Chlorine gas used during WWI. Remember Henry Ford. I found out that he merged his German assets with those of Farben. Quote: “Without the capital supplied by Wall Street, there would have been no I.G. Farben in the first place, and almost certainly no Adolf Hitler and WWII.” (Historian Anthony Sutton; “Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler”, 76 Press, Seal Beach , Ca. 1976; page 33).

J. P. Morgan created artificial panic used as excuse to pass Federal Reserve Act Morgan was instrumental in pushing U. S. into WWI to protect his loans to British government. He financed Socialist groups to create an all-powerful centralized government which international bankers would control at the apex from behind the scenes. After his death, his partners helped finance the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia .
And, curiously enough, the Federal Reserve System has never been audited and has firmly resisted all attempts by House Banking Committee Chairman Wright Patman to have it audited. (N. Y. Times, Sept.14, 1967.)

When the Federal Reserve System was foisted on an unsuspecting American public, there were absolute guarantees that there would be no more boom and bust economic cycles. The men who, behind the scenes, were pushing the central bank concept for the international bankers faithfully promised that from then on there would be only steady growth and perpetual prosperity. However, Congressman Charies A. Lindberg Sr. accurately proclaimed:

"From now on depressions will be scientifically created."

Using a central bank to create alternate periods of inflation and deflation, and thus whipsawing the public for vast profits, had been worked out by the international bankers to an exact science.

21 November 1933 – A letter written by FDR to Colonel House, "The depression was the calculated 'shearing' of the public by the World Money powers, triggered by the planned sudden shortage of supply of call money in the New York money market....The One World Government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank." Curtis Dall, FDR's son-in-law as quoted in his book, My Exploited Father-in-Law.

Same letter by FDR 1933 - A letter written by FDR to Colonel House; "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson."

1933 – Quoted in his second Cabinet meeting that he (FDR), was not interested in staying out of the war, but rather wanted to devise a way for American to get into another war, “Mr. Farley wrote that at the second cabinet meeting in 1933, “The new President again turned to the possibility of war with Japan.” [Farley, James, The Roosevelt Years, NY, McGraw-Hill Books, 1948, P 39. Cabinet Member James Farley.]

these are all facts and documented...in many cases by unbiased historians. If you love this country, and truth as God has ordained for us beyond the desires of man, please......take note of this whether we would meet of not.

Below are a few of the books, and few, is any are cross referenced, but come with their own sources, and several are rare....I've got them. .....they all say the same thing and actually complement each other.......Paul, the info that I put out is not based on opinion Its all backed up by research and confirmed historical records, interviews, documentation, and no longer a trust of personal opinion......we have been lied to from the day the first history book was ever written. Its all centralized and under the control of 13 famlies, counsel of the 33, Committee of the 300, Bliderbergers, and the central organization, in the U.S. is the "invite only" groups in the CFR. This is only the US. I haven't even touched the organizations in Europe........


Let the congressmen tell you....

Congressman McDonald
video.google.com...

Stan Jones
www.youtube.com...

Oliver North put on the spot
www.youtube.com...

Congressman Norman Dodd
www.youtube.com...

Stop the NAU
www.youtube.com...

Roosevelt's Communist Manifesto - Emanuel M. Josephson, 1955

World Revolution – Nesta Webster, (Mrs. Authur Webster), Boston; Small, Maynard, Company Publishers, 1921.

World Revolution – The Plot Against Civilization; Nesta Webster; Edited and brought up to date by Anthony Gittens, 1994.

The Secret Destiny of America – by Manly Palmer Hall, Philosophical Research Society, 3341 Griffith Park Boulevard, LA, 27, Calif. 1944

The Red Fog Over America - Cmdr. William G. Carr, 1955

New World Order: The Ancient Plan of Secret Societies, by William T. Still, Huntington House Publishers, 1990.

Pawns in The Game - Cmdr William G. Carr, 1958, 2007
yamaguchy.netfirms.com...
www.gnosticliberationfront.com...

The Rockfeller File - Gary Allen, 1976
www.mega.nu:8080...

Proofs of a Conspiracy - John Robison, 1798
www.sacred-texts.com...

None Dare Call it Conspiracy, Gary Allen, 1976
reactor-core.org...

Enroute to Global Occupation - Gary H. Kah, 1991

Here’s The Proof: by Robert Concoby & David Nicol, 1994

Globalism: America's Demise - William M. Bowen, JR. 1984

Wall Street And the Bolshevik Revolution - Anthony Sutton, 1974
reformed-theology.org...

Wall Street and The Rise of Hitler, Anthony Sutton,
reformed-theology.org...

Interview of Sutton
video.google.com...

The New Dark Age
www.geocities.com...

Morals and Dogma - ALBERT PIKE, 1871
www.freemasons-freemasonry.com...

New Age Movement
www.spiritualrealist.com...

The Hidden Dangers of The Rainbow: The New Age Movement and Our Coming Age of Barbarism - Constance Cumbey, 1983

The Earth Charter, Initiative
www.earthcharter.org...
Iron Mountain Report
www.mega.nu:8080...

“Report From Iron Mountain, On the Possibility and Desirability of Peace”: by Leonard C. Lewin; The Free Press, 1996.

March 4, 1939 - Quote from a report of the secret committee by President Roosevelt,;

“I am making no concessions to business, or for relief. I have a military machine sufficient to stop any organized revolt. I am putting MY PEOPLE ahead of all instruments. I’ll have had a full understanding with Chamberlain, and we will destroy this unemployed condition with a WAR, and a WAR only. To Hell with the American people, as far as a Democracy is concerned. It does not exist. It never did, and we will never let it happen that way. I am going to crush business, infest America with all the aliens possible, and in the last analysis, declare Martial Law, and confiscate everything I need for a true and forceful Dictatorship. My New Deal is a failure, and I know it, but no one else will tell me that I must discontinue my present activities, and program.” From the Secret Audience with the Military Appropriation Committee; The Ways and Means Committee; The Special War Finance Committee; and this copy was presented to me by mail through Senator Lundeen.” “The Red Fog Over America” by William Guy Carr, 1955.

References for you to understand what we are dealing with, linked to the education camps, and every other significant program that would lead to the New World Order.........

In 1841 Clinton Roosevelt published in America “The Science of Government Founded on Natural Laws”, This was nothing more than a plagiarized version of the teachings of Professor Adam Weishaupt of Frankfort University, Germany, the renegade Jesuit priest who arranged for the agenteur of the Illuminati to infiltrate into French Freemasonary in 1776 so “The Secret Power” which directed the World Revolutionary Movement, and the Conspiracy of Satan, at that time could use Freemasonsary to further their secret plans and ambitious and at the same time cloak their diabolitical purpose.

The fact that FDR’s New Deal, his NRA, and other political policies and economic devices fitted perfectly into the “Long Range Plans”, of the Illuminati proved the continuity of the conspiracy from 1841 to 1945. It has been explained that Roosevelt made known his secret plans to establish a dictatorship in American in March 1939 when he gave a secret audience to some of his governments special committee. It has also been mentioned that Roosevelt was kept a virtual prisoner from after Yalta until his death presumably to prevent him telling the truth in the event his conscience troubled him when he realized that he was about to meet his maker.

Congressman McDonald
video.google.com...


Stan Jones
www.youtube.com...

Oliver North put on the spot
www.youtube.com...

Congressman Norman Dodd
www.youtube.com...

Stop the NAU
www.youtube.com...

Roosevelt's Communist Manifesto - Emanuel M. Josephson, 1955

World Revolution – Nesta Webster, (Mrs. Authur Webster), Boston; Small, Maynard, Company Publishers, 1921.

World Revolution – The Plot Against Civilization; Nesta Webster; Edited and brought up to date by Anthony Gittens, 1994.

The Secret Destiny of America – by Manly Palmer Hall, Philosophical Research Society, 3341 Griffith Park Boulevard, LA, 27, Calif. 1944

The Red Fog Over America - Cmdr. William G. Carr, 1955

New World Order: The Ancient Plan of Secret Societies, by William T. Still, Huntington House Publishers, 1990.

Pawns in The Game - Cmdr William G. Carr, 1958, 2007
yamaguchy.netfirms.com...
www.gnosticliberationfront.com...

The Rockfeller File - Gary Allen, 1976
www.mega.nu:8080...

Proofs of a Conspiracy - John Robison, 1798
www.sacred-texts.com...

None Dare Call it Conspiracy, Gary Allen, 1976
reactor-core.org...

Enroute to Global Occupation - Gary H. Kah, 1991

Here’s The Proof: by Robert Concoby & David Nicol, 1994

Globalism: America's Demise - William M. Bowen, JR. 1984

Wall Street And the Bolshevik Revolution - Anthony Sutton, 1974
reformed-theology.org...

Wall Street and The Rise of Hitler, Anthony Sutton,
reformed-theology.org...

Interview of Sutton
video.google.com...

The New Dark Age
www.geocities.com...

Morals and Dogma - ALBERT PIKE, 1871
www.freemasons-freemasonry.com...

New Age Movement
www.spiritualrealist.com...

The Hidden Dangers of The Rainbow: The New Age Movement and Our Coming Age of Barbarism - Constance Cumbey, 1983

The Earth Charter, Initiative
www.earthcharter.org...

Originally posted by tgambill
I can send privately a list of major references, books, links etc.....



plz do...

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I just have two questions.

If they are so smart and have so much power, what is taking so long?

Did they plan on taking thousands of years to take over?

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Excellent sourcing!!!!!

It has to do with a long term plan, according to prophesies that were made thousands of years ago. It is part of Gods plan to see the prophesy of the Bible to fulfilled. This is the short answer. Long answer on a secular level, its a matter of getting the generations prepared and ready to accept the WORLD ORDER. It has to do with the advance of technology, control, as in the 1800's it would of been impossible to control the world, in the early 1900's it would have been impossible.....however, the real answer lies in the lady that tells Oprah the truth of Jesus's return.

www.youtube.com...

Dumb Hillbilly no education thata me. Like i always say everyone is alittle bit crazy so ,believe me or not . Theys idiots are trying the same old crap over and over it has been done before throughout history ,and because the sheeple cant see that we are getting it agin in larger and larger doses.

What is money? Who controls money? is it worth anything?

sorry to say it is not backed by anything as off 1973 , so while they imported all jobs overseas and built there game plain into a war economy and in the mean time moved u off of farmland into large cities or 1/4 of acrea subdivisions with credit to anyone,and then told u a lie that u most u work harder and we are going to need more of that monoply money to bailout the super rich because they are in the poor house , because lieing and cheating isnt good business.

anyways they thought what better way would it be to create this crash about phony money (of which they control) as a Iou thanks for 60 years of 14 hour days in the salt mine,or our country since 1776 to fleece it out so they can ,buy up all the failing business land banks for nothing , because as we all no monoply money is there control.

so since we have no jobs because there all overseas and what jobs is left here in the usa they will own for nothing because it was phony money to begin with.

So when 65 percent of the US population has no home no job and kids to feed omg along comes some government program to give jobs , thank God for those that screwed us to begin with they truely love me.

now if we only had another war we could take control of another country plus make money by selling war machinery to both sides while we brainwash our slaves to into thanking there doing there country prode by alowing us to brainwash them and there kids to turn in there nieghbors family members into the government because they obtained food illegally

Thank God we have our government if it wasnt for them we wouldnt have food or water

Hello.....well, it has been planned just like they planned the Great Depression to aid in the military coup of 1933. It failed when General Butler, USMC blew the whistle. They have a central body, and a very specific agenda that is to form a world government stage by stage as it was planned starting on May 1, 1776, with Albert Pike, founder of the KKK, planned WWI, WWII and coming WWIII between 1850 to 1871. So far their planning has hit the highest batting average. WWIII coming as planned unless Jesus comes first if God decides to intervene.

Sorry i cant write nor spell please forgive me.

In the times ahead is it not best to love humanity above there own country

for god's sake we have been killing Iraq and afghan for over 20 years now whats left there now infants?

Thank God we are trying to get more wars started so we can have the amercian dream economy