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"Your Jesus Christ was murdered on the symbol of both his science and his spirituality"
Originally posted by bugs_n_recovery
Let me start by saying i do believe in god and consider mydelf a Christian.
That doesnt meen that I dont think or wonder or research all the time.
One of the things that has always worried me is that in the old testament it says do not worship false gods or idols. Now to play it safe(Im a pesimist) Ive often thought that the jews were the hight percentage of going to heaven lol (Your saying :::Christian huh)!!! but of all believers in God Islam, catholics/Christians , the Jews follow the "original" text the most seriously and correctly
so what if "Jesus" was not who he says he was, then Christians and believers of the cross(around my neck right now) have violated one of the biggest no no"s of gods laws..
Originally posted by justamomma
I have always wondered why a religion that claims to be about life is so obsessed with a symbol of death. could you have imagined if Jesus had been murdered on a guillotine? Would ppl wear guillotines around their necks? how ironic
The New Testament in my view, is a book of pure Idol worship.
Originally posted by NOTurTypicalWhere some see a 'symbol of death' others see a symbol of VICTORY
So, the cross, what brought death to him is a sign of victory?
Originally posted by jakyll
I've never understood why some Christians focus on the crucifying of Jesus.
Obviously it was a momentous event,but the story didn't end there did it!
His resurrection,ascending into heaven and returning again to continue ministering are just as important as his death;especially his resurrection.
Imagine Issac Newton was a god and people payed more attention to the apple than they did to the theory of gravity!
We have a similar situation here.
And with the image of Jesus on the cross many are keeping him in a perpetual state of death.
Originally posted by justamomma
Originally posted by NOTurTypicalWhere some see a 'symbol of death' others see a symbol of VICTORY
So, the cross, what brought death to him is a sign of victory? or was it that he showed something through death? If it is the latter, then it would seem ironic that christians wear the symbol of death rather than the symbol of life.. not sure what you could adopt as the symbol of life, but lets face it, the cross means one thing and that is death.
His Holy, blameless shed blood. That shed blood covers our sins. His sacrificial death covers our sins. The other things you mention that Christ did do are amazing, but those things we too shall do after we die.
12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain....17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
Originally posted by justamomma
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Yes, I remember how I was taught to think... I just disagreed. The cross is not only a symbol of jesus' death, but many men have died that horrible death.. how is that not sick to wear it around your neck or use it as a symbol of life? It doesn't represent victory over death when that is where he died, not where he conquered death? i could understand wearing the tomb as a symbol better than the cross. Just being honest in my non christian view.
Originally posted by justamomma
reply to post by NOTurTypical
I didn't quote you.. I replied to you .
As far as your second question, I personally could not answer that as I was never taught and never have worshipped the cross an idol. I see that in certain sects of christianity, but certainly not all. I just see it as a symbol and disagree with the how it is being used as a symbol. My opinion. Not based on you particularly, but a general conclusion.