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Originally posted by Muaddib
(but; 1,400 y.a. [536-538 A.D.] wet cold event of reduced tree growth and famine across western Europe and possibly elsewhere).
Originally posted by loam
Muaddib, your response is so bizarre, I'm not really sure where to start... But what the hell, it's the weekend...
*sigh*
Originally posted by loam
Then I missed those links. Show me where *I* or anyone else says "that 'mankind can change the Earth's core, or the Sun's core?'
Originally posted by loam
Rebutting the specific nonsense found in this thread *is* on topic. Sorry, but I wont roll over merely because you ask me to.
Originally posted by loam
If you don't like what I have to say, then prove me wrong. I feel comfortable with the readership deciding which positions have the most merit.
Originally posted by loam
I find it amusing that you find the scientific assessments of climate change on other planets far more compelling and explanatory than than the scientific assessments made of our own planet- particularly when you assert the vast majority of scientists in this matter are simply wrong. Can you help me understand what special brand of unimpeachable skill your cited scientists have? Are astrophysicists and astronomers simply smarter than all the rest?
Originally posted by loam
I have stated it repeatedly.
The existence of natural causes does NOTHING to disprove the possibility of anthropogenic causes. Get it?
Originally posted by rizla
Why is this thread given its own picture link on the ATS Homepage? It's unresearched nonsense and would have died after a page without the publicity.
Science my arse: environment.guardian.co.uk...
Originally posted by loam
Nice article, rizla.
I think it important to understand who the spin masters might be.
Originally posted by Muaddib
Originally posted by loam
Nice article, rizla.
I think it important to understand who the spin masters might be.
Of course when people can't deny facts they have to resort to the "spin master, government agent" bs....
Originally posted by soficrow
That's way out of line Mauddib. The article lists the corporations who fund anti-climate change "research" - and deconstructs their information marketing strategies. ...So the article itself is about 'who the spin masters' are, and how the 'research' is funded.
Originally posted by rizla
Can someone tell me how this thread became linked to the front-page? Also, who can I contact in order to have the link removed? Poorly researched threads like this give ATS a bad name.
Colorado State professor disputes global warming is human-caused
Views ‘out of step’ with others are good for science, academic says
By Kate Martin
The Daily Reporter-Herald
Global warming is happening, but humans are not the cause, one of the nation’s top experts on hurricanes said Monday morning.
Bill Gray, who has studied tropical meteorology for more than 40 years, spoke at the Larimer County Republican Club Breakfast about global warming and whether humans are to blame. About 50 people were at the talk.
Gray, who is a professor at Colorado State University, said human-induced global warming is a fear perpetuated by the media and scientists who are trying to get federal grants.
“I think we’re coming out of the little ice age, and warming is due to changes to ocean circulation patterns due to salinity variations,” Gray said. “I’m sure that’s it.”
The Tropical Meteorology Project is headed by Colorado State University's Dr. William Gray. Professor Gray has worked in the observational and theoretical aspects of tropical meteorological research for more than 40 years. Most of this effort has gone to the investigation of meso-scale tropical weather phenomena. He has specialized in the global aspects of tropical cyclones for his entire professional career. Dr Gray received his Ph.D. from the University of Chicago, Dept. of Geophysical Sciences in 1964. He has been with Colorado State University's Dept. of Atmospheric Science since 1961, and has been a professor since 1974.
Dr. Gray's hurricane forecast has gained international attention, and won him the Neil Frank Award of the National Hurricane Conference in 1995. His Atlantic basin hurricane forecasts are published here. (Archived forecasts are available.)