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Originally posted by Rockpuck
First off, this thread was intended to say that people who support Israel are in fact moral inferior. Subz would agree to that, though he cries about being mocked.
You expect me to condemn Israel just because civilians die, that in my opinion is not good enough reason, and being a westerner I will tend to pick the side of a western nation. Israel creates it's own problems, just like the Arabs, but why who I support should determine my moral character?
Subz attacked anyone who disagreed with him. That is why there is such an outrage over his comments, he didn't say that supporting an anti-war stance is a good cause, he didn't say that more people should support peace, he did not even give reasons (until later with the quotes) on WHY we should opt for his view on things. He said through his little speach on who sits with who, which he apparently sits with JFK, King and Ghandi and apparently because people like me and many other on this board support Israel, we are then on a lower level of morality. Deny it all you want Subz, it is what you said.
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Originally posted by ceci2006
However, obviously jsobecky does not want to be a part of "people like us". He continues to protest any situation that warrants a sense of compassion, caring or empathy. He continues to attack those who care for others. He criticizes any attempt to bring about a recognization of the complexities afforded to the suffering of the least of us. In fact, his posts mock them.
Originally posted by ceci2006
Relax. Keep your repressed demeanor in tact.
Of course I said "cracker-crat". So did Greg Palast. So did other people on the board. And I apologized for it. What's your problem? Did the tar baby bite you too hard?
Originally posted by ceci2006
Nevertheless, it's not a popularity contest. You'll still have your coterie of clucking biddies against social justice in the morning.
Originally posted by subz
Oh no, what ever shall you find to obfuscate over now Jsobecky? I just criticised Hezbollah by itself! What ever will become of your tenuous contention?
Originally posted by junglejake
Is that really the best you've got? You can go back and find any of your old posts where you did this, you have to write a one liner saying Hezbullah's bad as your proof?
Sounds like Jsobecky' got a pretty solid point...
Originally posted by subz
I see nothing heroic in blowing up children, which is what both Hezbollah and Israel have done.
Originally posted by ceci2006
I apologize to subz for taking up the time trying to address your attacks against me, my posting and my character. This conversation will be serious and intellectual for now on.
Originally posted by subz
Originally posted by junglejake
I make no claims to see Israel and Hamas in the same light. I think Israel is justified in its actions against Hamas and Hezbullah, and I put the blame for the civilian deaths on those two terror groups' cowardly tactics.
Then you're nothing but an Israeli apologist and not worth serious debate. Thanks for clearing that up, you'll not get any more replies from me as you're closed minded.
Originally posted by subz
No it does not continue as I clearly said i'm through replying to a close minded Israeli apologist such as Junglejake. No need to drag this out.
Originally posted by subz
Oh no, what ever shall you find to obfuscate over now Jsobecky? I just criticised Hezbollah by itself! What ever will become of your tenuous contention?
Now where is your criticism of Israel? Or are you held to a different standard than myself? Do as I say, not as I do?
Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Wow, I didn't realize that every forum on PTS was allowed to be such a slugfest with incessant personal attacks gone unpunished... No wonder it didn't get much traffic, relatively speaking to ATS. What I want to know is what all has changed? Majic?