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Trump Knew the Proper Protocol for Declassifying Records

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posted on May, 17 2023 @ 04:07 PM
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The National Archives has informed former president Donald Trump that it is set to hand over to special counsel Jack Smith 16 records which show Trump and his top advisers had knowledge of the correct declassification process while he was president, according to multiple sources.

In a May 16 letter obtained by CNN, acting Archivist Debra Steidel Wall writes to Trump, “The 16 records in question all reflect communications involving close presidential advisers, some of them directed to you personally, concerning whether, why, and how you should declassify certain classified records.”

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It's been revealed earlier this year Jack Smith subpoenaed NARA to turn over 16 documents that illustrate that Trump was aware of the proper protocol on declassifying documents.

Acting Archivist Debra Steidel Wall has now sent a letter to Trump that she is about to hand over the subpoenaed documents. Wall states in her letter that, "The 16 records in question all reflect communications involving close presidential advisers, some of them directed to you personally, concerning whether, why, and how you should declassify certain classified records."

These documents could undercut Trump's argument that he could declassify documents with his mind. It also establishes that Trump intentionally retained possession of these documents even though they had not gone through the proper declassification process.

Experts are speculating that Smith may be wrapping up his investigations. All of his major witnesses have testified before the grand juries. So this latest development certainly seems more like he's now prepping for a court room battle and is no longer focused on the indictment stage.


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posted on May, 17 2023 @ 04:17 PM
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Plenary power



Complete power over a particular area with no limitations. This term is often used to describe the Commerce Power of Congress. Under the Commerce Clause (Article I, Section 8, Clause 3) Congress is granted full power over interstate commerce. The Court has found that states are not able to pass laws affecting interstate commerce without the permission of Congress.



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Plenary authority



Power that is wide-ranging, broadly construed, and often limitless for all practical purposes.  When used with respect to public officials, the more popular term is plenary power.



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posted on May, 17 2023 @ 04:30 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

It's an aspect of the case that will almost definitely require a SCOTUS ruling. However, it certainly opens up an interesting line of questioning about why Trump never "mentally declassified" anything until it just so happened to be documents that he would get in trouble for possessing.

It could also be used to set a perjury trap if someone like Kash Patel flipped and is willing to testify that Trump did not believe these documents to be declassified.


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posted on May, 17 2023 @ 04:31 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

whatabout Biden? Did he have the same training for the documents he kept next to the vette?

(isn't it #ing irritating to have some asshole whatabout your thread? yea, it pisses me off too)



posted on May, 17 2023 @ 04:33 PM
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posted on May, 17 2023 @ 04:35 PM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254



It's an aspect of the case that will almost definitely require a SCOTUS ruling. However, it certainly opens up an interesting line of questioning about why Trump never "mentally declassified" anything until it just so happened to be documents that he would get in trouble for possessing.


Source for having documents he wasnt supposed to have? Statute broken?

Hint: on the heels of the Durham report I suggest finding one not from the FBI....



It could also be used to set a perjury trap if someone like Kash Patel flipped and is willing to testify that Trump did not believe these documents to be declassified.


Perjury. Isnt that lying while under oath?

Again, following the Durham report, id suggest finding an equal application of this law.



posted on May, 17 2023 @ 04:37 PM
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originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Xcalibur254

whatabout Biden? Did he have the same training for the documents he kept next to the vette?

(isn't it #ing irritating to have some asshole whatabout your thread? yea, it pisses me off too)


No matter what the VP can’t declassify jack squat… so PedoPete is up the river no matter what… unless the fix is in… which everyone with an IQ over 5 knows it is… 😜👍



posted on May, 17 2023 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Xcalibur254



It's an aspect of the case that will almost definitely require a SCOTUS ruling. However, it certainly opens up an interesting line of questioning about why Trump never "mentally declassified" anything until it just so happened to be documents that he would get in trouble for possessing.


Source for having documents he wasnt supposed to have? Statute broken?

Hint: on the heels of the Durham report I suggest finding one not from the FBI....



It could also be used to set a perjury trap if someone like Kash Patel flipped and is willing to testify that Trump did not believe these documents to be declassified.


Perjury. Isnt that lying while under oath?

Again, following the Durham report, id suggest finding an equal application of this law.


Seems like there’s some sort of legal term for someone testifying to something they believe someone else may have or may have not know… gee… if only there were some sort of legal experts that could figure that out… 🤣🤣🤣



posted on May, 17 2023 @ 04:44 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

but if you don't read it and pretend it says things it doesn't, then you might could slip one by the few who didn't read it.



posted on May, 17 2023 @ 04:46 PM
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a reply to: network dude

Isn't it convenient that they keep hammering at Trump, but are completely deaf and blind when it comes to the Biden family ?
I mean seriously folks, this has been going on for 6 years and they get more desperate every time.



posted on May, 17 2023 @ 04:47 PM
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a reply to: network dude

Im behind the times.

Its still nuke secrets, right?

Help a moron out?



posted on May, 17 2023 @ 04:49 PM
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a reply to: network dude

As I've explained to you numerous times, it comes down to intent. There's no evidence that Biden packed those documents, unpacked those documents, or even knew they were there.

With Trump more and more evidence keeps coming out that not only was he intentionally holding onto classified documents but that he was also intentionally trying to hide them from investigators.



posted on May, 17 2023 @ 04:53 PM
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originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: network dude

Isn't it convenient that they keep hammering at Trump, but are completely deaf and blind when it comes to the Biden family ?
I mean seriously folks, this has been going on for 6 years and they get more desperate every time.



with both Biden and Pence having document issues, it really diminishes the effect anything might have going after Trump for paperwork crimes. But LARPer's will LARP.



posted on May, 17 2023 @ 04:55 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: network dude

Im behind the times.

Its still nuke secrets, right?

Help a moron out?


I think it's still NUKULAR secrets, but things got kind of quite on that front for some strange reason. I'm sure he's guilty and will be putting on that orange jumpsuit any day now.



posted on May, 17 2023 @ 04:55 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

The Presidential Records Act.



posted on May, 17 2023 @ 04:57 PM
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a reply to: network dude

You can say that all you want but Biden and Pence didn't try to hide documents from investigators and then have their lawyers lie about them.

That's where the major differences start.



posted on May, 17 2023 @ 04:57 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: network dude

As I've explained to you numerous times, it comes down to intent. There's no evidence that Biden packed those documents, unpacked those documents, or even knew they were there.

With Trump more and more evidence keeps coming out that not only was he intentionally holding onto classified documents but that he was also intentionally trying to hide them from investigators.


you get all saucy when you speak law, do it some more.



posted on May, 17 2023 @ 04:58 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: network dude

You can say that all you want but Biden and Pence didn't try to hide documents from investigators and then have their lawyers lie about them.

That's where the major differences start.


So because it's Trump it's (D)ifferent.....OK, gotcha



posted on May, 17 2023 @ 05:00 PM
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speaking of intent.....




posted on May, 17 2023 @ 05:02 PM
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originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: network dude

As I've explained to you numerous times, it comes down to intent. There's no evidence that Biden packed those documents, unpacked those documents, or even knew they were there.

With Trump more and more evidence keeps coming out that not only was he intentionally holding onto classified documents but that he was also intentionally trying to hide them from investigators.


If he didn’t/doesn’t know what’s next to his corvette in Rehobeth Beach he has no business leading this country don’cha think… and again… he has zero defense when it comes to the declassification because those documents along with the ones at UPenn predate his presidency… keep flossing though… that turd still ain’t shiny… 🤣🤣🤣




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