Are the "vaccines" also driving people crazy?

It isn’t just a symptom of a vaccine, it’s a symptom of the system.



a reply to: SkyAngel

No, the vaccines are not driving people crazy, the big health agencies are doing that by pushing fear on people and denying truths of anyone attempting to challenge their policies.

a reply to: SkyAngel

Well that’s a chicken/egg question if ever there was one.

Does the “vaccine” make people crazy or did only crazy people take the “vaccine”?

originally posted by: Ksihkehe
There are some crazy people that have been telling us for years that COVID spike proteins are very bad and can cause long term effects

100% false. Spike protein is the part of a coronavirus that allows it to enter a cell and reproduce. They are benign when not attached to a virus.

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: Ksihkehe
There are some crazy people that have been telling us for years that COVID spike proteins are very bad and can cause long term effects

100% false. Spike protein is the part of a coronavirus that allows it to enter a cell and reproduce. They are benign when not attached to a virus.

This is completely false. The spike protein is toxic and exists in quantities that are many fold higher, free form, produced through the mrna shots. I'm not sure why at this point in the game you're making such a statement. We're way past that. This might be an argument for March 2020.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
This is completely false. The spike protein is toxic and exists in quantities that are many fold higher, free form, produced through the mrna shots. I'm not sure why at this point in the game you're making such a statement. We're way past that. This might be an argument for March 2020.

Absolute false, hot garbage as usual. A spike protein can't hurt you without an accompanying virus, and a coronavirus can't hurt you without spike protein attached. Hence why the vaccines teach your body to attack and do away with spike protein, it renders the virus harmless.

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: Ksihkehe
There are some crazy people that have been telling us for years that COVID spike proteins are very bad and can cause long term effects

100% false. Spike protein is the part of a coronavirus that allows it to enter a cell and reproduce. They are benign when not attached to a virus.

Do you have a link for what you are claiming?

a reply to: Itisnowagain

www.news-medical.net...#:~:text=Spike%20protein%20functions&text=S%20proteins%20of%20coronaviruses%20can,embe dded%20into%20the%20viral%20envelope.

a reply to: andy06shake

Do you also have a link that says that the spike alone cannot hurt you?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Do you also have a link that says that the spike alone cannot hurt you?

health-desk.org...

immunizebc.ca...

apnews.com...

I could post hundreds of them. But you and your ilk will dismiss anything that isn't bitchute, rumble, or twitter.

a reply to: LordAhriman

Researchers from the University of Bristol have found that, in cells in a dish in the lab, the spike protein binds to cells called pericytes which line the small vessels of the heart. This binding triggers a cascade of changes which disrupt normal cell function, and can lead to the release of chemicals that cause inflammation. This happened even when the protein was no longer attached to the virus.

British Heart Foundation.org

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: LordAhriman

Researchers from the University of Bristol have found that, in cells in a dish in the lab, the spike protein binds to cells called pericytes which line the small vessels of the heart. This binding triggers a cascade of changes which disrupt normal cell function, and can lead to the release of chemicals that cause inflammation. This happened even when the protein was no longer attached to the virus.

British Heart Foundation.org

And antibodies triggered by the vaccines negate that.

www.bristol.ac.uk...

a reply to: LordAhriman

You said that the spike protein is harmless when not attached to the virus.....I provided a quote that says that's not true.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
You said that the spike protein is harmless when not attached to the virus.....I provided a quote that says that's not true.

The spike proteins that you speak of are actually broken away from the virus after it attached to a cell. Without the virus they never would have attached.

a reply to: LordAhriman

Why do some people get myocarditis after the vaccine?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
Why do some people get myocarditis after the vaccine?

Because myocarditis is a natural immune response that can happen with any viral or bacterial infection, or any vaccine.

a reply to: LordAhriman

It could be that......but it requires more study....

The most compelling difference in adolescents who developed post-vaccine myocarditis compared with the asymptomatic cohort was the presence of a surprisingly high level of full-length unbound spike protein that remained detectable for up to 3 weeks after vaccination and somehow eluded antibody recognition despite the lack of significant differences between the two groups in antibody production and neutralization capacity. It remains unclear if spike protein has a direct role in the pathogenesis of myocarditis; furthermore, it was detected in the majority of but not all patients with myocarditis. As myocarditis has also been observed in response to other vaccines, such as vaccines against influenza and smallpox, and non-mRNA vaccines against COVID-19, the circulating spike protein could be a biomarker of immune dysregulation leading to myocarditis, rather than a causal agent of this. On the other hand, in vitro evidence suggests that spike protein could impair pericyte and endothelial cell function via ACE2 and thus contribute to myocarditis.

Taken from the article:
Circulating spike protein may contribute to myocarditis after COVID-19 vaccination. 08 February 2023 (Nature.com)

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
This is completely false. The spike protein is toxic and exists in quantities that are many fold higher, free form, produced through the mrna shots. I'm not sure why at this point in the game you're making such a statement. We're way past that. This might be an argument for March 2020.

Absolute false, hot garbage as usual. A spike protein can't hurt you without an accompanying virus, and a coronavirus can't hurt you without spike protein attached. Hence why the vaccines teach your body to attack and do away with spike protein, it renders the virus harmless.

That's wrong. Spike has a strong binding affinity for ace2 and foreign proteins activate the immune system which attacks and destroys any cell the spike proteins attach to. Activating the immune system causes inflammation by design. Inflammation is tissue destruction. The LNPs allow the mrna to travel anywhere in the body to deliver their payload including the brain or heart etc. When heart cells start producing spike the immune system attacks and destroys those healthy heart cells causing mycarditis. And because there's trillions of spike proteins being productions potentially and the human body has trillions or cells, that's enough for every cell to become a spike protein factory which could be targeted for destruction. The vaccine creates the potential for an autoimmune attack systemically and explains all the sudden deaths.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
It could be that

It is. It is not new information that the most common cause of myocarditis is a cold. While it CAN be deadly, it's usually so mild that it goes undiagnosed and clears itself up. It's impossible to know how many people get it, because they usually can't even feel a difference, and therefore never see a doctor to document it. It's just a boogeyman buzzword that quacks latched on to.

a reply to: LordAhriman
This is from the study:

Results:

Extensive antibody profiling and T-cell responses in the individuals who developed postvaccine myocarditis were essentially indistinguishable from those of vaccinated control subjects, despite a modest increase in cytokine production. A notable finding was that markedly elevated levels of full-length spike protein (33.9±22.4 pg/mL), unbound by antibodies, were detected in the plasma of individuals with postvaccine myocarditis, whereas no free spike was detected in asymptomatic vaccinated control subjects.

Conclusions:

Immunoprofiling of vaccinated adolescents and young adults revealed that the mRNA vaccine–induced immune responses did not differ between individuals who developed myocarditis and individuals who did not. However, free spike antigen was detected in the blood of adolescents and young adults who developed post-mRNA vaccine myocarditis, advancing insight into its potential underlying cause.