Do you think the recent heatwaves that are so long lasting may be warfare via other proxies?

a reply to: AaarghZombies

I have to differ on that. Temps actually went down due to the Industrial Revolution. The studies have been showing Pollution reduced our temperatures. It is the Sun being blocked that did that. Now, the Sun is not being blocked as much by Ozone or SO2 pollution, and the temps will jog up about nothing compared to when the Sun sends more energy that hits Earth. It truly is logic. It is very straight forward logic at that. Do you recall the Science said it was much, much warmer for several Earth millennium's? Do you recall the Europeans ran around naked in all the art and statues of their day?

Cycles of the climate come and cycles go. England could raise enough grapes to make wine in their history, but not now because it is too cold.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: nugget1
. Many scientific fields have uncovered historical data that shows much hotter temperatures in past decades, and the changes we're seeing now are nothing new.

Yes, but the kicker isn't that it's been this hot before, it's how often it's been this hot before.

We're having more blindingly hot summers more often.

True, in some places. Others areas are having far cooler seasonal temperatures, and far warmer winter months- especially in places where it matters far more than car exhaust and cow farts.
Quite a few researchers say it's following the same pattern as in former geological periods of warming then cooling, and we're supposedly past due for the climactic cooling off period. And the Big One. And the pole shift. And....

a reply to: tanstaafl

Science is getting pretty good at backing up political narrative.

a reply to: nugget1

The problem that I have with climate change denial, is that it's not a brave few people speaking out against an uncaring machine that's pushing an agenda, it's very few people with a history of quackery using cherry picked data to try to push an agenda.

You rarely see anybody who has a respectable history coming up with things like that, it's always people who think that vaccines cause autism, or that space lizards rule the world. Or who have one foot in the petroleum industry.

Standing here listening to them is like hearing Epstein arguing that migrant children should be allowed into the country, or Clinton saying that wealth taxes should only be applied to the middle classes.

a reply to: nugget1

Older member here.
I'm, pretty sure that I don't remember that being the opinion of mainstream science for anything that happened during my lifetime.

Other than peak oil (Which didn't happen due to improvements in drilling technology allowing us to locate and exploit new reserves), the rest of that stuff was mostly the domain of hippies and the far left. Serious science didn't actually believe it.

a reply to: Kenzo

Ya gotta love how all the elite fly in private planes to the annual climate conference to talk about how we're using too much fossil fuels... couldn't they at least carpool? (plane-pool?) Or better yet meet by video conference. Not very good at leading by example, the lot.

a reply to: Sooga

Long-lasting?

Please! It's been over 100 here for 1 day. I notice you start your clock at 2013. Go back to 2012, and we had a heat wave here that lasted for days with multiple days well over 100. The reason why it got that hot had to do with a deep drought that year. The heat wave and drought did not break until into late August or early September when we finally started to get substantial rains.

And that's really what you need to know about the heat.

There are several regions stuck in drought this year. It likely has something to do with a triple-dip La Nina pattern which affects climate patterns across the northern and southern Americas. When the ground is drier from drought, there is no insulating effect from the moisture in the soils and vegetation that prevents the daytime temps from getting as high. This year, you can see that stark difference at work in the city I live in. There is a profound divide in the amounts of rain the north side and south side have received. As a result, the south side is baking hot in drought conditions. They have actually reached measurable 100 temps a few times this year, but if you drive north of I-70, there has been more rain, the vegetation is greener and we have only reached 100 degrees once up here. It's about a 30 mile difference (it's my commute actually).

So what you need is rain. Rain to get rid of the dry conditions and prevent the heat from shooting up.

If you want more evidence of this, go look at the conditions during the Dust Bowl '30s. There is a reason why so many modern scaremongers leave those days off the current trends. The midwest US descended into a nearly decade-long deep drought, and with that lack of moisture came scorching hot, 100+ degree summers. A lot of records for daily high temps still stand from that time period. If those old records don't stand from then, they stand from another period of drought and heat that was briefly experienced in the '50s that was similar, but not as deep as the '30s.

a reply to: Sooga

Yep the weather channel pushing the climate change, their motto is disregarding the actual temperatures and trust us on how hot it is, boost the heat indexes to get them over 100, soo it seems hotter that really is and scare the people into burning if they go outside.

Actually, as per personal experience and no been a climate change whore, temperatures in GA has been just like any other summer, hot, humid and summer, yep is darn summer.

I enjoyed my day outside yesterday it was actually nice, yep I did no burn outside and I am still alive and well.

Go enjoy your summer, be cautious with your type of skin and exposure and stop drinking the climate change porn.

Is darn summer.

a reply to: new_here

Not only do they fly and drive their gas guzzlers while talking about how to make us stop. But they live in the tropics in comfy, climate controlled resorts while talking about how we use too much energy staying comfy ourselves. Then they eat lobster, filet mignon, and all the very best bits and pieces of every rare animal out there while talking about how awful it is that you and I want to have a simple bit of protein, not even a top cut, for our meal, so we should all learn how to like insects and cultured mystery meat.

Then they fly back to beach side properties they cry about being underwater.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Sooga

I think it may be down to global warming rather than weather warfare to be honest.

I put it down to Mother Nature trying to rid herself of a human virus.

a reply to: ketsuko

That is how the marxist, communist and dictatorship elites work, force the sheeple to do as we said but we do not apply to ourselves.

Any of this type of governments does anything but steal, lie and loot their own citizens for their benefits.

History does not lie.

a reply to: nerbot

If that's the case through she's also apt to rid herself of a lot more animal life than us before she manages to flush humanity down the proverbial evolutionary toilet.

That being said mass extinctions also follow cycles aka the Ordovician, Devonian, Permian, Triassic, and Cretaceous extinction periods.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

a reply to: andy06shake

Yeah yeah yeah.

It's going to be a dark and deadly winter for the unvaccinated.

Then a burning hot summer of fires and blood clots for the fossil fuel dependent.



Why am I not surprised you're answering a half-baked sock account like it's a real post.

a reply to: Ksihkehe

Ive not mentioned vaccines in this thread aside from to say the alleged "Project Blue Beam", to my knowledge, was not about viruses, so there is that.

As to what you are surprised about, i would not care to speculate.

a reply to: nerbot

I put it down to the fact that if we study the history of the planet, not human kind, the planet, then we know that the weather and its prevailing weather patterns are not static. They change over time and evidence suggests those changes can be abrupt, not gradual like we have all previously thought. They can be both.

No one wants to think these are perhaps natural changes, or a mix of natural and man-made in some places depending on management policy (the Dust Bowl, for example, was worsened by farming practices at the time and lessened by the widespread planting of shelter belts to help break up the wind).

The popular science pushes the idea that this time, these are exclusively man-made issues because for those in charge, they can use it push for more control over the people and the ways we live.

The Earth's axis is changing the North Pole and South Pole locations. Wouldn't THAT affect weather because the positions are different? 😀

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: nugget1
. Many scientific fields have uncovered historical data that shows much hotter temperatures in past decades, and the changes we're seeing now are nothing new.

Yes, but the kicker isn't that it's been this hot before, it's how often it's been this hot before.

We're having more blindingly hot summers more often.

Not where we are. I remember hot summers throughout the 70s qnd then they got too cold and short.
British Summers are a few days a year and everyone gets mental.
This year is the first year in 30 years I call almost proper.
But of course it won't be.
So where does your Theory cover that?

The earth hurls through space at 35K and the little flea people on it think it has to stay the same all the time. That's the ridiculous part.

I think the heatwaves are more the natural effects of solar activity as well as the path our solar system takes in its grand orbit through the Milkyway galaxy.

originally posted by: Ksihkehe
a reply to: AaarghZombies

a reply to: andy06shake

Yeah yeah yeah.

It's going to be a dark and deadly winter for the unvaccinated.

Then a burning hot summer of fires and blood clots for the fossil fuel dependent.

Why am I not surprised you're answering a half-baked sock account like it's a real post.

I don't know what kind of conspiracy websites you've been browsing, but nobody here is seriously suggesting that the vax an global warming are connected.

Global warming has been debated long before anyone heard of Covid.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Yep you are right, globalist started to get wet when they realized that if they scare the populations enough, they could make money out of the climate hoax.