Future Disclaimer For All Covid Threads That Challenge The Narrative

***DISCLAIMER***

First of all, before we go any further, let's make it clear that EVER SINGLE whistle blower is going to be demonized and discredited by social media, big tech and the mainstream media. So no matter who it is, or how many published studies or degrees they have, or what university they teach at, it doesn't matter. Big pharma pays good money to make sure anyone who questions the narrative is completely silenced and ridiculed. In fact they spend billions of dollars every year to accomplish this, along with protecting their narrative in every way possible. The trusted news initiative, funded by big pharma is completely designed to silence all dissent as eloquently discussed here by Dr. Robert Malone. This also includes the corporate capture of the CDC, FDA, NHS, politicians, etc.

So if you can't think outside the box, then don't even comment that you googled someone and it said that this person or any person is some discredited doctor or scientist.

WE KNOW.

That's the game they are playing. The did it to the most published cardiologist in the world and every single doctor or scientist who has spoken out, and they can do it to anyone. They did it to Joe Rogan for explaining the Covid protocol he used that got him back to doing intense exercise within a few days, and it was prescribed by his doctor, it worked. They did it to one of the co-creators of the mRNA platform, Dr. Malone. They did it to front line doctors who literally came up with the protocols with repurposed drugs that saved people in the beginning of the pandemic and not the remdesivir/vent garbage that killed 90% of the people that got put on it.

Do you really think whistle blowers are protected by the government? What happened to Julian Assange again? Does everyone remember what he did and the lasting impact it had? No? Wait, what? He's in prison probably for life, and the people who committed the crimes are living on an island somewhere.

Now, if you wish to leave your little box, and you don't believe this or any of the doctors or scientists who have spoken out, then the first question you can answer for yourself is: WHY? Why do they all throw their careers away to speak out? What do they have to gain VERSUS what does big pharma have to gain?

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

There is enough information in the public domain from the official records and statements that there's no excuse for professionals to remain silent anymore.

This is just the start. It will pick up pace. Children dying isn't getting explained away forever by climate change and whatever total nonsense they push. Even people that have no bias against the vaccine or real medical knowledge are starting to see there's fairly blatant causation.

They could have potentially kept a lid on this, but the greed got the best of them and their desire for childhood schedule immunity has created a situation that will not go away. They can't even justify giving the vaccine based on mortality, adverse events being unacceptably high takes it into the realm of criminal negligence.

COVID UPDATE: What is the truth?
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

The media (TV, newspapers, magazines, etc), medical societies, state medical boards and the owners of social media have appointed themselves to be the sole source of information concerning this so-called “pandemic”. Websites have been removed, highly credentialed and experienced clinical doctors and scientific experts in the field of infectious diseases have been demonized, careers have been destroyed and all dissenting information has been labeled “misinformation” and “dangerous lies”, even when sourced from top experts in the fields of virology, infectious diseases, pulmonary critical care, and epidemiology.

These blackouts of truth occur even when this information is backed by extensive scientific citations from some of the most qualified medical specialists in the world.[23] Incredibly, even individuals, such as Dr. Michael Yeadon, a retired ex-Chief Scientist, and vice-president for the science division of Pfizer Pharmaceutical company in the UK, who charged the company with making an extremely dangerous vaccine, is ignored and demonized. Further, he, along with other highly qualified scientists have stated that no one should take this vaccine.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
***DISCLAIMER***

First of all, before we go any further, let's make it clear that EVER SINGLE whistle blower is going to be demonized and discredited by social media, big tech and the mainstream media. So no matter who it is, or how many published studies or degrees they have, or what university they teach at, it doesn't matter. Big pharma pays good money to make sure anyone who questions the narrative is completely silenced and ridiculed. In fact they spend billions of dollars every year to accomplish this, along with protecting their narrative in every way possible. The trusted news initiative, funded by big pharma is completely designed to silence all dissent as eloquently discussed here by Dr. Robert Malone. This also includes the corporate capture of the CDC, FDA, NHS, politicians, etc.

So if you can't think outside the box, then don't even comment that you googled someone and it said that this person or any person is some discredited doctor or scientist.

WE KNOW.

That's the game they are playing. The did it to the most published cardiologist in the world and every single doctor or scientist who has spoken out, and they can do it to anyone. They did it to Joe Rogan for explaining the Covid protocol he used that got him back to doing intense exercise within a few days, and it was prescribed by his doctor, it worked. They did it to one of the co-creators of the mRNA platform, Dr. Malone. They did it to front line doctors who literally came up with the protocols with repurposed drugs that saved people in the beginning of the pandemic and not the remdesivir/vent garbage that killed 90% of the people that got put on it.

Do you really think whistle blowers are protected by the government? What happened to Julian Assange again? Does everyone remember what he did and the lasting impact it had? No? Wait, what? He's in prison probably for life, and the people who committed the crimes are living on an island somewhere.

Now, if you wish to leave your little box, and you don't believe this or any of the doctors or scientists who have spoken out, then the first question you can answer for yourself is: WHY? Why do they all throw their careers away to speak out? What do they have to gain VERSUS what does big pharma have to gain?

What he says ya’ll - be prepared to be laughed at,humiliated, treated like a social leper and that’s why it’s important to stick together and make sure that whenever we predict mass vaccination deaths we try not to be too exact with the time frame. Allow for at least the next fifty years.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

They've effectively run out of reasons to compel anyone to get jabbed.

It won't prevent infection.
It won't prevent transmission.
All they can hang on to is potentially "milder symptoms", which is impossible to prove on a case by case basis.

So what if I want to take my chances with possibly more severe symptoms? How would my choice effect anyone else?
It wouldn't.

Yet they still want to require the vax as condition of employment in many fields. So tell me again why I should be denied a job based on declining to participate.

When it comes to internet information in regards to the covid 19 and the covid 19 “vaccines” it sounds an awful lot like this:



The amount of conflicting information from the “experts” and the “whistleblowers” is so tremendous it is beyond a joke and is in full fledged parody range.

It’s so bad I don’t know how the people in charge of things can so brazenly make decisions to force anything on anyone as I don’t see a general consensus one way or another. Today is duck season tomorrow is… apparently you decide.


Nice OP SnF! Thanks for sharing

originally posted by: BarbaraTheEnlightened1

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
***DISCLAIMER***

First of all, before we go any further, let's make it clear that EVER SINGLE whistle blower is going to be demonized and discredited by social media, big tech and the mainstream media. So no matter who it is, or how many published studies or degrees they have, or what university they teach at, it doesn't matter. Big pharma pays good money to make sure anyone who questions the narrative is completely silenced and ridiculed. In fact they spend billions of dollars every year to accomplish this, along with protecting their narrative in every way possible. The trusted news initiative, funded by big pharma is completely designed to silence all dissent as eloquently discussed here by Dr. Robert Malone. This also includes the corporate capture of the CDC, FDA, NHS, politicians, etc.

So if you can't think outside the box, then don't even comment that you googled someone and it said that this person or any person is some discredited doctor or scientist.

WE KNOW.

That's the game they are playing. The did it to the most published cardiologist in the world and every single doctor or scientist who has spoken out, and they can do it to anyone. They did it to Joe Rogan for explaining the Covid protocol he used that got him back to doing intense exercise within a few days, and it was prescribed by his doctor, it worked. They did it to one of the co-creators of the mRNA platform, Dr. Malone. They did it to front line doctors who literally came up with the protocols with repurposed drugs that saved people in the beginning of the pandemic and not the remdesivir/vent garbage that killed 90% of the people that got put on it.

Do you really think whistle blowers are protected by the government? What happened to Julian Assange again? Does everyone remember what he did and the lasting impact it had? No? Wait, what? He's in prison probably for life, and the people who committed the crimes are living on an island somewhere.

Now, if you wish to leave your little box, and you don't believe this or any of the doctors or scientists who have spoken out, then the first question you can answer for yourself is: WHY? Why do they all throw their careers away to speak out? What do they have to gain VERSUS what does big pharma have to gain?

What he says ya’ll - be prepared to be laughed at,humiliated, treated like a social leper and that’s why it’s important to stick together and make sure that whenever we predict mass vaccination deaths we try not to be too exact with the time frame. Allow for at least the next fifty years.

At the current rate of boosters in fifty years you'll have somewhere between 65-75 boosters so I see no reason the deaths won't continue.

Maybe you should log into your main account and discuss it. Science is on your side, right?

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

I live in South Florida. I’ve never masked. I’ve never been vaccinated and I’ve never had covid (that I know of). I know of very few people here that have had it and none of them were any more sick than a bout with the flu. It makes no sense.

a reply to: BarbaraTheEnlightened1
I accidentally gave you a star. I didn't mean it.

People should dig much more deeper in general, it`s not just covid....or vaccines....it`s the core of the big lie.

Germ theory vs terrain theory

a reply to: Kenzo

I have said it before, I collect the info from the world around me not the world wide web spot on my friend.

originally posted by: igloo
a reply to: BarbaraTheEnlightened1
I accidentally gave you a star. I didn't mean it.

Disgusting!

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

originally posted by: BarbaraTheEnlightened1

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
***DISCLAIMER***

First of all, before we go any further, let's make it clear that EVER SINGLE whistle blower is going to be demonized and discredited by social media, big tech and the mainstream media. So no matter who it is, or how many published studies or degrees they have, or what university they teach at, it doesn't matter. Big pharma pays good money to make sure anyone who questions the narrative is completely silenced and ridiculed. In fact they spend billions of dollars every year to accomplish this, along with protecting their narrative in every way possible. The trusted news initiative, funded by big pharma is completely designed to silence all dissent as eloquently discussed here by Dr. Robert Malone. This also includes the corporate capture of the CDC, FDA, NHS, politicians, etc.

So if you can't think outside the box, then don't even comment that you googled someone and it said that this person or any person is some discredited doctor or scientist.

WE KNOW.

That's the game they are playing. The did it to the most published cardiologist in the world and every single doctor or scientist who has spoken out, and they can do it to anyone. They did it to Joe Rogan for explaining the Covid protocol he used that got him back to doing intense exercise within a few days, and it was prescribed by his doctor, it worked. They did it to one of the co-creators of the mRNA platform, Dr. Malone. They did it to front line doctors who literally came up with the protocols with repurposed drugs that saved people in the beginning of the pandemic and not the remdesivir/vent garbage that killed 90% of the people that got put on it.

Do you really think whistle blowers are protected by the government? What happened to Julian Assange again? Does everyone remember what he did and the lasting impact it had? No? Wait, what? He's in prison probably for life, and the people who committed the crimes are living on an island somewhere.

Now, if you wish to leave your little box, and you don't believe this or any of the doctors or scientists who have spoken out, then the first question you can answer for yourself is: WHY? Why do they all throw their careers away to speak out? What do they have to gain VERSUS what does big pharma have to gain?

What he says ya’ll - be prepared to be laughed at,humiliated, treated like a social leper and that’s why it’s important to stick together and make sure that whenever we predict mass vaccination deaths we try not to be too exact with the time frame. Allow for at least the next fifty years.

At the current rate of boosters in fifty years you'll have somewhere between 65-75 boosters so I see no reason the deaths won't continue.

Maybe you should log into your main account and discuss it. Science is on your side, right?

Science isn’t on my side, but the spirits are and they are telling me that there will be mass deaths in the next hundred years. Don’t say I didn’t warn you.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

This is the problem with conspiracies, the more that you debunk them the more that the people who follow them that there is a coverup or that things are being supressed.

Somebody sees a weather balloon and calls it a flying saucer, and the local weather station comes forwards to say that they did indeed release a balloon at that exact place and at that exact time, and suddenly the weather station is being denounced as part of the conspiracy.

Everything logical and rational argument, every piece of data, that doesn't support the conspiracy is being seen as fake and as part of the cover up.

If this really was a conspiracy it would require millions of people to be in on it in a hundred countries, and hundreds of millions of more people to be complicit through silence. And hundreds of millions of more people who aren't being threatened or paid off and who have no reasons whatsoever to cover things up to do so.

Why would my local pharmacist fake data, or remain silent upon seeing fake data? Surely the NWO isn't going round to every small town in the backwaters holding a gun to everyone's heads in person?

And what about the pharmacist in the next town over, and the town over from that?

What about the local health officials. Surely if they were seeing an uptick in child mortality they'd report it, or are you suggesting that they're all being paid off or threatened?

The funeral homes aren't seeing an increase in deaths of young people, only the elderly. Or are they also being paid off?

What about the crematoriums, paid off, too?

Grave diggers, did the MiB come round and tell them not to talk about the extra graves that they're having to dig?

Actuaries, statisticians, everyone?

There's a reason why only a handful or people are coming out and making claims that there is a conspiracy, and that's because the vast majority of people are looking at the evidence, and are looking at the things that they can see with their own eyes, and aren't seeing anything that's not pretty standard for a bad flu season, but stretched out.

originally posted by: Ksihkehe
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

There is enough information in the public domain from the official records and statements that there's no excuse for professionals to remain silent anymore.

The reason that people aren't coming forward is that the actual data doesn't support there being a conspiracy.

If we look at this from a wide perspective, the data from pretty much everywhere is saying pretty much the same thing. The death rates for covid are the same in America and Russia, and Iran, and North Korea, and the EU. Covid is no more nor less deadly regardless of where it is or what the politics of that country are.

The data on comorbidity is the same as well. It's killing the same types of people regardless of whether you live in a free first world democracy or a third world dictatorship.

The same is true of the vax. Data on protection levels, identical. Data on reduction in transmission, identical. Data on the adverse reactions, identical.

To fake this you would need to corrupt so many agencies in so many countries that there would be a money trail a mile wide. You'd need trillions of dollars just to bride the government officials alone.

It's not enough just to bribe the people at the top who release the data to the public, you'd need to bribe or threaten people in every local body or agency in every country, because many of these groups release their own independent data, it would be extremely obvious if the data at the top and the data locally didn't match. Academics and statisticians would notice immediately. Yet none have?

"If you tell a big lie and repeat it often enough, people will eventually believe it. You can maintain the lie as long as the state succeeds in shielding people from the political, economic and military consequences of the lie. Therefore, it is of vital importance for the state to use all its power to suppress dissent. Truth is the mortal enemy of lies, and therefore truth is the greatest enemy of the state."

- Joseph Goebbels German politician (NSDAP), MdR, Reich Minister for Popular Enlightenment and Propaganda 1897 - 1945.

a reply to: AaarghZombies
I never said it was fake. That's a straw man that little well-poisoners, like the troll in this thread, insert so it can later be used as a blanket accusation against those that disagree with the approved "science".

Show me the clinical data that supports vaccinating children. That should be easy, we have two years of clinical data. Show me the clinical need and how the vaccine reduces that risk enough to justify it.

Be warned the risk of myocarditis has been publicly cited at 1 in 5,000 by a public official just recently. So, after you find those clinical numbers showing mortality for kids you then need to justify the statistically insignificant risk reduction from the vaccine with an incredibly high risk of adverse events. Saint Fauci has acknowledged the vaccines don't really work that well to prevent transmission, which for some reason he still says is a reason to vaccinate children, and is unable to offer any evidence that supports the clinical need.

You can't show me because the Lord God of COVID himself can't. It's a very low bar, but one I'm confident you aren't reaching. This isn't asking for overwhelming evidence, merely one clinical justification for a healthy child to be vaccinated that exceeds the risks it poses to them.

It is a statistical certainty that more people under 18 will suffer adverse effects than will be spared from COVID deaths with the current data, then there are those that are vaccinated and still die of COVID. Dying of COVID seems to be another adverse event associated with vaccination. Once you figure in the risk of annual boosters it becomes a truly gruesome number.

We have crossed the Rubicon. Up until the past few weeks I considered it highly probable, but data in the public domain now shows it is inevitable. They still haven't even made a serious effort to get to the real numbers on adverse events and they are already citing 1 in 5,000 for myocarditis. This is insanity. There can only be another reason, no clinical one exists.

You are cheering for children to die for some alleged public health benefit, not a single benefit to a healthy child. Zero. You want healthy children to die to offer imaginary public health benefits which don't include preventing transmission or illness or death. That is either insanity, stupidity, or some undisclosed motive. There simply isn't a clinical answer.

The fact you're unable to distinguish between being anti-vax and taking account of real statistical risk is not my problem. That you continue parroting the lies being pushed by officials is everybody's problem.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

You completely missed the point.

Why would my local pharmacist fake data, or remain silent upon seeing fake data? Surely the NWO isn't going round to every small town in the backwaters holding a gun to everyone's heads in person?

And what about the pharmacist in the next town over, and the town over from that?

What about the local health officials. Surely if they were seeing an uptick in child mortality they'd report it, or are you suggesting that they're all being paid off or threatened?

The funeral homes aren't seeing an increase in deaths of young people, only the elderly. Or are they also being paid off?

What about the crematoriums, paid off, too?

Grave diggers, did the MiB come round and tell them not to talk about the extra graves that they're having to dig?

Actuaries, statisticians, everyone?

The reason that people aren't coming forward is that the actual data doesn't support there being a conspiracy.

And who is all this data being reported to? And who is supposed to release all this data to the public in a fair, equal, unbiased manner?

The corrupt media owned by the democrat agenda? The governments that are perpetrating this attack?

Big pharma doesn't have to pay off every single pharmacist, doctor, grave digger, etc. They paid off the media and the government agencies meant to watch over them. They control the narrative, not at the bottom - at the top.

You say with absolute certainty that the data does not support the conclusion of a conspiracy. And where exactly did you get that data? I highly doubt you collected it yourself direct from the sources. Did you get it from the media? The government? No. You got it from big pharma, you just don't know it.

a reply to: Ksihkehe

Show me the clinical data that supports vaccinating children. That should be easy, we have two years of clinical data. Show me the clinical need and how the vaccine reduces that risk enough to justify it.

As you well know there isn't any. At least none that you would accept. Which is why you're asking for it.

Most countries aren't vaxxing children except in cases where they or close family members have existing comorbidity, which skews the data. Making it no longer representitive of the wider population.

Also, as you well know, children tend not to get covid badly, so there is no real case for vaxxing them to protect them. The whole reason for vaxxing children is to reduce community transmission.

Be warned the risk of myocarditis has been publicly cited at 1 in 5,000 by a public official just recently.

That's strange, because the Israeli study (See source in my signature) says that it's closed to 1 in 50,000, with 1 in 500,000 having any actual risk. And even then that's not 1 in 50,000 people, that's 1 in 50,000 young males.

It is a statistical certainty that more people under 18 will suffer adverse effects than will be spared from COVID deaths with the current data,

I'm a huge great nerd. Hit me with those stats. Don't spare the source, don't spare the complicated modelling data. Just throw it all my way.

You are cheering for children to die for some alleged public health benefit,

That's funny, because I didn't mention vaxxing children, that was you. In fact I didn't say anything in support of vaxxing anyone. That was also you.

I said that the fact that every country in the world is reporting similar data for pretty much every aspect of the pandemic, means that it's more likely to be accurate than not because there would just be too many people to bribe or threaten to be able to fake the data.

You want healthy children to die to offer imaginary public health benefits which don't include preventing transmission or illness or death.

Source, please.

The fact you're unable to distinguish between being anti-vax and taking account of real statistical risk is not my problem.

I didn't mention anti-vaxxers. That was you. I said that nobody could bribe or threaten enough people to pull of a global conspiracy like this, so there probably wasn't one. You're either projecting or misquoting. Both of which would be your problem.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

And who is all this data being reported to? And who is supposed to release all this data to the public in a fair, equal, unbiased manner?

In my country, the data is published directly by each region, as well as being supplied to several regional and national agencies, for further publication.

So you'd need to corrupt the people releasing the data in each region, plus the people who gather the information for them, plus anybody who would have access to the raw data prior to release. You'd need to do this for every region, as well as to the various agencies who received the data at a local and national level. which would include multiple academic institutions.

That's not a small number of people. Any one of whom would be able to tell if the data was manipulated. So you'd need to threaten or bribe them not to go public.

The corrupt media owned by the democrat agenda

The corrupt media owned by the Democrat agenda ... in Iran, and Russia, and Israel, and the EU?

Why would the media in every country in the world all be corrupt in the exact same way, and support the exact same agenda?

Big pharma doesn't have to pay off every single pharmacist, doctor, grave digger, etc.

It would need to pay of all of the ones who found out that the truth and the narrative didn't match up and who would go public with it. If we were knee deep in dead you don't think that the grave diggers or the crematorium owners would know about it?

They paid off the media and the government agencies meant to watch over them.

That would still entail bribing or threatening millions of people all over the world. You'd need to infiltrate the TV news media, the print media, the social networks, even small town papers.

You say with absolute certainty that the data does not support the conclusion of a conspiracy.

What I actually said was that the consistency of the data demonstrates that there isn't a conspiracy because in order for data to be that consistent you'd need to bribe or threaten such a ridiculous amount of people that it's simply not believable.

You got it from big pharma, you just don't know it.

Big Pharma isn't a single global entity, it's thousands of competing companies each trying to get an edge over the other. Why would Chinese Big Pharma go along with American Big Pharma? Why would Big Pharma in Israel agree to something like this if it meant cooperating with Big Pharma in Iran?

Britain and the EU can't agree on how move sausages across the Irish border, yet you believe that they'd cooperate on this rather than use it against the other?

The existence of a conspiracy is laughable because so many different people would need to be involved.