Recruiting & Grooming 6th Graders Exposed In Colorado

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: infolurker

How about we please use the correct language.

This isn't "grooming", I don't agree with it, but it's not grooming.

Yes it IS grooming. Grooming= coercion, manipulation.

Don't be an ostrich.

originally posted by: Listen2GuthrieGovan
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Honest question: after promoting the clot shot for so long and everything you said about it proven a lie, how do you feel that you have any credibility left? Or are you just here to convert the dumbest of the dumb?

Because I'm telling you that you're using the wrong nounverb?

originally posted by: JSpader
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Do you even have children? If you were a parent, there is no way you would be okay with information being held from you and your kid contacting a teacher behind the parents’ back on whatsapp.

You do understand that this is an argument about grammar, not conduct, right?

a reply to: AaarghZombies

It is grooming. If you can’t see it you are telling on yourself. You were wrong about the clot shot and you are wrong now.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

what would grooming be in your vocabulary?

In this case, a teacher, is taking young children, telling them not to tell their parents, and having sexual discussions with them, telling them if they ever had any doubts about licking a little carpet, they are Trans. That's grooming 101.

I don't know why you seem to have such a hard on about the terminology. Perhaps you could explain that.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: Listen2GuthrieGovan
a reply to: AaarghZombies

Honest question: after promoting the clot shot for so long and everything you said about it proven a lie, how do you feel that you have any credibility left? Or are you just here to convert the dumbest of the dumb?

Because I'm telling you that you're using the wrong nounverb?

Here is the education you apparently missed:

One tool common to those who sexually abuse kids is grooming: manipulative behaviors that the abuser uses to gain access to a potential victim, coerce them to agree to the abuse, and reduce the risk of being caught.

Grooming can take place online or in-person. It’s usually employed by a family member or someone else in the victim’s circle of trust, such as a coach, teacher, youth group leader or others who naturally have some interaction with the victim.

Though grooming can take many different forms, it often follows a similar pattern.

Victim selection: Abusers often observe possible victims and select them based on ease of access to them or their perceived vulnerability. (Asking children how they feel about their body or who they are attracted to)
Gaining access and isolating the victim: Abusers will attempt to physically or emotionally separate a victim from those protecting them and often seek out positions in which they have contact with minors. (Don't trust your parents)
Trust development and keeping secrets: Abusers attempt to gain trust of a potential victim through gifts, attention, sharing “secrets” and other means to make them feel that they have a caring relationship and to train them to keep the relationship secret.
Desensitization to touch and discussion of sexual topics: Abusers will often start to touch a victim in ways that appear harmless, such as hugging, wrestling and tickling, and later escalate to increasingly more sexual contact, such as massages or showering together. Abusers may also show the victim pornography or discuss sexual topics with them, to introduce the idea of sexual contact.
Attempt by abusers to make their behavior seem natural, to avoid raising suspicions. For teens, who may be closer in age to the abuser, it can be particularly hard to recognize tactics used in grooming. Be alert for signs that your teen has a relationship with an adult that includes secrecy, undue influence or control, or pushes personal boundaries.

It takes a special kind of sickness to refuse to acknowledge what this is and how damaging it can be. There is absolutely NO REASON for ANYONE to initiate and discuss issues such as this with a child as young as 5. And to do so with the instructions, "Don't tell your parents" makes this as heinous and perverted as it can possibly be. These are predators plain and simple.

originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: infolurker


Break out the wood chipper.

The only remedy for how far things have gone wrong is to start the voucher program. As far as I am concerned the government has completely broken the social contract to provide a healthy safe place for kids to learn.

Enrollment in private schools is soaring in the area I just visited. I was talking to 2 private school teachers and their enrollment doubled last year and is set to keep growing. Their previous colleagues who teach in public school said a few of their other friends moved to teach at other private schools because they were hiring teachers to meet the demand in higher enrollment.

People who can afford it are fleeing public schools.

One person hired their formerly public school mother to teach all of her grandchildren in a homeschool enviornment with all the parents chipping in to pay her a salary for quitting public school and homeschooling their children.

Vouchers are the only answer for middle/lower class and poor parents who don't want to send their children to public schools who Biden clearly said the children belong to the school when they are there. The OP is a clear example of the schools deciding the children belong to them and excluding parents in even giving puberty blockers which can cause sterility or problems with future fertility. www.mayoclinic.org...

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Except that's the OP is talking about felony grooming. Which isn't the right term to use here.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

manipulative behaviors that the abuser uses to gain access to a potential victim, coerce them to agree to the abuse, and reduce the risk of being caught.

And this is why I'm right. Molestation isn't their end game.

There is absolutely NO REASON for ANYONE to initiate and discuss issues such as this with a child as young as 5

Has anyone here suggested otherwise?

I'm arguing about noun and verb usage. The OP is morally right, but grammatically wrong.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Except that's the OP is talking about felony grooming. Which isn't the right term to use here.

what's the difference between grooming and felony grooming? Penetration?

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: AaarghZombies

what would grooming be in your vocabulary?

In this case, a teacher, is taking young children, telling them not to tell their parents, and having sexual discussions with them, telling them if they ever had any doubts about licking a little carpet, they are Trans. That's grooming 101.

I don't know why you seem to have such a hard on about the terminology. Perhaps you could explain that.

If their end is to get into the kid's panties then it's grooming, if it's to convince them that they should be wearing panties, then it's not. Simply as that. That's called something different.

Not a moral argument for or against, but a grammatical one.

Read my comment history, I call people out on incorrect word usage all the time, like certain people on this forum who use "communist" or "Socialist" incorrectly, or people who call anything authoritarian "fascist" without understanding that fascism is an actual ideology, not a catch all phrase.

If you started using the word "Yeti" to refer to the Skunk Ape, I would call you out on that one as well.

I'm taking about grammar. The correct usage of nouns and verbs, so please don't insult my intelligence by trying to make out that this is something else.

Of all the things zombie (how apt) takes from this article to be up in arms about....its word choice.

FFS.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Except that's the OP is talking about felony grooming. Which isn't the right term to use here.

what's the difference between grooming and felony grooming? Penetration?

It's kinda important but ... convincing someone to wear panties, and trying to get into their panties, two very different things.

It's like, you trying to convince a child to join the school softball team against the wishes of their mother, who wants them to concentrate n their studies, and you luring them into a supply room so that you can beat them with a baseball bat.

It's all about the end game.

originally posted by: SideEyeEverything
Of all the things zombie (how apt) takes from this article to be up in arms about....its word choice.

FFS.

You're just upset because we agree on everything else.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Except that's the OP is talking about felony grooming. Which isn't the right term to use here.

what's the difference between grooming and felony grooming? Penetration?

It's kinda important but ... convincing someone to wear panties, and trying to get into their panties, two very different things.

It's like, you trying to convince a child to join the school softball team against the wishes of their mother, who wants them to concentrate n their studies, and you luring them into a supply room so that you can beat them with a baseball bat.

It's all about the end game.

and you know exactly what this teacher was wanting, how exactly?

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: AaarghZombies

what would grooming be in your vocabulary?

In this case, a teacher, is taking young children, telling them not to tell their parents, and having sexual discussions with them, telling them if they ever had any doubts about licking a little carpet, they are Trans. That's grooming 101.

I don't know why you seem to have such a hard on about the terminology. Perhaps you could explain that.

If their end is to get into the kid's panties then it's grooming, if it's to convince them that they should be wearing panties, then it's not. Simply as that. That's called something different.

Not a moral argument for or against, but a grammatical one.

Read my comment history, I call people out on incorrect word usage all the time, like certain people on this forum who use "communist" or "Socialist" incorrectly, or people who call anything authoritarian "fascist" without understanding that fascism is an actual ideology, not a catch all phrase.

If you started using the word "Yeti" to refer to the Skunk Ape, I would call you out on that one as well.

I'm taking about grammar. The correct usage of nouns and verbs, so please don't insult my intelligence by trying to make out that this is something else.

this reads like you enjoy being wrong. You would argue about the noun used to call a fictional character? Some folks call him Knobby, will you tell them they are wrong?

You really need to get a hobby if this is how you want to spend your spare time. Arguing about terminology of kiddie fiddlers makes you look like a guy who approves of this. Not saying you do, but you sure look like you do.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

First, how do you know what their end game is? Answer: you don't.

Second, you are wrong about the word. What is happening is definitely grooming. In fact, it is text book perfect as I showed you. Your refusal to acknowledge that is troubling to say the least. You cant snip one part of one sentence, say it doesn't apply and use that to base your entire argument. Especially when the truth is, you don't know if it applies to them or not. You cant possibly think anyone believes you know what is going on in their minds. I doubt you can convince anyone you know what is going on in your own mind. Maybe people would do well to speculate what your end game is...

Lastly, on a subject as serious as this, why would you even bother to distract from the seriousness of the issue with some pathetic niggling whining about your incorrect perception of the syntax? In its purest form, even IF the word was used incorrectly (it wasn't), it still properly conveyed the message as it was intended to convey.

a reply to: The2Billies

It may come down to making a bunch of little house on the prairie-style schools. Like the one you talked about where people chip in for a good teacher.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

Here. It cant be made any more simple than this. If you still don't get it its because you choose not to. And that has tons of issues all to itself.

Grooming is when someone builds a relationship, trust and emotional connection with a child or young person so they can manipulate, exploit and abuse them.

Children and young people who are groomed can be sexually abused, exploited or trafficked.

Sexual abuse is just one result of grooming. You don't know ANY of their intents so it really doesn't matter anyway.

Quote from the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children

I am going to say what many think but won't express. These agenda driven ' educators' need to just disappear to never be seen or heard from again.