Lavrov "We are at war with NATO"

a reply to: anonentity

Perhaps they are there to protect these countries from themselves. Or is it something else?

The question is are those bases protect these countries from Russia, China? or to protect US interest's?

Lavrov "We are at war with NATO"


NATO is not a country, which country is madman vlad planning to invade next?

There's really nothing new about it, they've thought that for a while. And they've been trying to destroy the weapons shipments too.

a reply to: anonentity

So more Bitchute nonsense, a site well known for accommodating far-right individuals and conspiracy theorists never mind for hosting hate speech and from the one and only king of bullcrap Alex Jones no less.

Of course Jones claims its is escalating all the way to Armageddon how else do you expect him to shift his spurious health products and boner pills?

a reply to: anonentity

Russia carried out an act of war with NATO when it sent Russian Agents to carry out a terrorist attack in Salisbury UK in 2018.

The failed attempted poisoning of Sergei Skripal, which lead to the death of Dawn Sturgess an innocent bystander.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: vonclod

Russia wanted Ukraine as part of her sphere of hegemony? that is what the US wants all of Eastern Europe to be part of and block Russia/China.

That's what Eastern Europe wants too. Even Hungary is in NATO and they've got great relations with Putin. Of course Belarus and Serbia are the exceptions. And no-one is forcing them to join NATO.

a reply to: Cutepants

Far as i can establish the very creation and reason for the existence of NATO was to deter expansion of Russia and the USSR regarding the better part of the rest of the European continent.

Russia is a bully, however they cannot stand against the combined unity and "one for all, all for one" mentality displayed by NATO nations, which is why they don't wish anybody else to join and attempt to bully them in to submission.

All Putin's war in Ukraine and piss poor invasion has served to achieve thus far is to drive the likes of Sweden and Finland into the arms of NATO thus increase there border two fold if that happens.

a reply to: andy06shake

I think Russia will calm down when those lines have been drawn. We're still seeing the afterquakes of USSR falling.

a reply to: Cutepants

Just end up with another cold war scenario reminiscent of the 1950s to the arse end of the 1980s.

Weans growing up living with and being told of the threat of imminent destruction everyday.

Not that its not always been a M.A.D world Cutepants, but somehow that kind of future scenario simply seems like two steps backwards to me.

Its a pointless exercise in xenophobia and one that Putin's apt to eventually lose.

Probably long after he's dead and buried in the ground, its not him that pays the cost price for his antics but the future generations to come.

a reply to: PassiveSeeker

thats a misconception. a relatively small area is uninhabitable. That said a larger area, say around a mile or two will be uninhabitable for a month or so, as the radiation decreases, life will return to normal. The issue is though that the radiation disolves, but also goes into the food supply. Since humans are apex predators, we get ever increasing doses of radiation as a result, which can destroy the thyroid or cause cancer. there was a moving that came out in the 1980's about the day after, it was a good watch.

Camain

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: andy06shake

I think Russia will calm down when those lines have been drawn. We're still seeing the afterquakes of USSR falling.

I had precisely the same thought the other day.

What is going on today is still the collapse of the Soviet Union. It is just taking a long time with some extended pauses.

Cheers

originally posted by: inert
a reply to: anonentity

The thing is that NATO is a defensive pact, not offensive.

Ummm…so…ever hear of Yugoslavia…?

Bosnia…Herzegovina…Kosovo…Serbia…?


How about Libya…?

How about Iraq…?


If you can’t even get these basic facts straight…what make you think we should pay any attention to the rest of your screed…


NATO…is not a defensive organization…it’s been an offensive organization for decades now…


Wake the eff up…



YouSir

a reply to: andy06shake

But some people seem to think we can prevent that just by drawing the line west of Ukraine instead of east. And all I'm saying is it will turn into a cold war from hot. What we do from there is open.

a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

Yeah, basically the geopolitical balance in that region is still readjusting.

originally posted by: Grimpachi

But it's not like NATO is marketing protection schemes like the mafia.

Can't tell if that is sarcasm but it definitely reads like sarcasm.

Once upon a time, Google's mantra read, "Don't be evil." Looks like they couldn't navigate that edge.

Same thing with NATO.

If Russia nukes ... expect 80,000 Americans in Europe to die. Yep ... then, it'll be "on like Donkey-Kong".

About 13 seconds after that, the NORKs will invade South Korea (another 120,000+ Americans there) and launch nukes at Japan (another 75,000 Americans). The chinee will bypass (re-prioritize) Taiwan and establish a beachhead in Venezuela. Once they've got a foothold in The Americas, they can take anything and everything they want in the Pacific at their leisure, Africa and the Middle East even as well ... and continue pouring troops into South America for an eventual invasion of the USA.

And a doddering old imbecile will still be at the helm of our girly-man armed forces ... and his man-diaper will be full of steaming scheißen ... because he won't know what to do (and neither will his politically-minded general staff).

The USA doesn't have enough high-tech to thwart much of this. Our high-tech won't operate indefinitely. And, spread across multiple fronts it's far less effective. The chinee and Russians would like win a war of attrition ... as long as we don't nuke china off the map early on.

1st question is: would Biden push the button early enough?
2d question is: would his successor ... after Biden is 25th'd?

Only question after is: how much of the population will be left to deal with the chinee landing force? Gonna let 'em keep Venezuela's strategic oil reserves for themselves?

a reply to: Cutepants

It's simply history repeating through Cutepants.

We are supposed to learn from such as opposed to repeating the transgressions of generations past.

Churchill wrote, "Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it".

Well that's what any sorts of new cold war scenario will equate to far as i can establish.

There has to be a better way of existing along side one another that does not involve threats of invasion, occupation and imminent destruction via nuclear Armageddon.

Probably just wishful thinking on my part all the same.

a reply to: Snarl

Nice storyline. 👍
Unfortunately I think its been done before.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Peeple

NATO, EU, US can't and won't suddenly stop supporting Ukraine, because they fear if they do Russia will expand her occupation to more and more countries

Eventually NATO, EU has to stop they already lost in central Asia in Afghanistan. Russia has no interests in other countries they arent there to expand an empire as an vid on YT claims.

Russia is already laying the groundwork for an invasion of Moldova and have pretty much admitted as much.

a reply to: anonentity

The scenario that will really happen is that the US and NATO will drop a nuke on Ukraine, blame it on Russia and then US will drop one on our own country (likely a large US city) and say it was retaliation from Russia and then.......

Because "Only when Babylon cries will the whole world cry" (quote from Tore Maras)
This is what the cabal wants because it will usher in the one world government.
Obama will be at the head of this because he is the one actually giving Biden orders.

The white hats know this is the plan. Why do you think the Space Force was created? President Trump also knows and is prepared to stop it. They will plan on dropping the nukes from space, not surface or submarine. Space Force can easily stop this.

a reply to: JinMI

So either Biden has a sit down and sorts this all out with Putin...