Russia now presenting evidence of American bio-labs in Ukraine.

a reply to: Madviking

we are in a new kind of war

a true info war, there is so much disinfo out there it will take people on the ground to determine what is what.

NATO needs to get involved even as observers as there is clearly war crimes going on, on both sides im sure


sometimes people are just waiting for more information

The problem with Russia is that no one believes them. They have a long history of lying and deception.

Only die-hard believers of Russian propaganda would believe this story.

a reply to: Madviking


Ah, the fresh air of reason.

originally posted by: paraphi
The problem with Russia is that no one believes them. They have a long history of lying and deception.

Only die-hard believers of Russian propaganda would believe this story.

Yes, but that's true for literally every government in the world. Name an honest government.....?

originally posted by: paraphi
The problem with Russia is that no one believes them. They have a long history of lying and deception.

Only die-hard believers of Russian propaganda would believe this story.

Kind of like the US? Heck just this past summer they ran with the narrative that they had killed terrorists with bombs on August 21/21 when they dronned the 8 children and 2 adults in Kabul. They ran with this narrative for an entire week even though there was evidence immediately on the ground that there was no bombs. Turned out it was just a guy bringing home water from work. US govt finally got called out by some media members before they would admit any wrong doing after a week of patting each other on the back.

Then let's not even mention telling the public about WMD and heck people destroying phones and servers and alot of other things

a reply to: JAY1980

Propaganda, the spreading of BullSh@@ to cover a governments ass by spreading falsehoods in order to draw attention away from ones miss deeds or to pretend that your doing a good thing by a government.

Until the day that Russia is a modern free country, not ruled by the old mentality of czars or old crazy ass communist oligarchs that just want to line their pockets, don't believe a thing that is said by them as far as what others are doing.

Granted all other governments spread bullsh@@ and their politicians want to line their pockets, but there are only one or two others that can compare to russia.

Remember this line, "Russians don't take a dump without a plan",
this is part of that plan

Don't believe a word of it, until it comes out during a time when there is no alternative reason to draw attention away from what their doing.

originally posted by: Flatcoat

originally posted by: paraphi
The problem with Russia is that no one believes them. They have a long history of lying and deception.

Only die-hard believers of Russian propaganda would believe this story.

Yes, but that's true for literally every government in the world. Name an honest government.....?

Add to that the US State department listed the funding of such labs, naturally enough they also claimed nothing bad could possibly be going on there, pinkie swear!

If true then they are probably researching or creating something that would be illegal to do in the US itself.

originally posted by: paraphi
The problem with Russia is that no one believes them. They have a long history of lying and deception.

Only die-hard believers of Russian propaganda would believe this story.

Ummm…hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…

Ha…Ha…

I can’t believe you actually just typed that…and used it for a response…

Talk about swallowing a narrative…

OMG…too effing funny…



YouSir

a reply to: YouSir

Putin has had journalists assasinated for criticism. I think the poster has every right to say Russia is to not be trusted based on past experience.

originally posted by: CptGreenTea
a reply to: YouSir

Putin has had journalists assasinated for criticism. I think the poster has every right to say Russia is to not be trusted based on past experience.

Ummm…Two Kennedy brothers…might dispute that…

So…you were saying…?


You peeps are too easy…



YouSir

I'll stop when russia stops.

*furiously thumbs through the Soviet Yellow Pages to find Putin’s phone number and beg him to stop the invasion*

Let's assume for a moment that Russia is correct, there are U.S. bio-labs in the Ukraine, BUT, that removing the bio labs is just a cover story for Putin. I'm not decided either way on that, but let's for a moment consider that he's using that as a pretext for the invasion.

Still....WTF is going on with these bio-labs??

Who is rampantly building biological research centers, where alleged study of dangerous pathogens is taking place, in places that are either adversarial (China) to us or have a very poor track record regarding security, stability, good governance (Ukraine). Is Ukraine looking to add another no-go zone next to Chernobyl? Problem being, biologics have a pesky proclivity to move around, so you can't just pour a few hundred tons of concrete on a hazard site and call it a day.

How does building these bio research facilities all over the map benefit the American people?

They seem to have a knack for causing problems.

I guess put it on the ever-growing list of hair brain actions that members of the "swamp" are doing with no clear upside to us, the taxpayers.

In non-clown world just having the Wuhan lab go haywire ought to initiate serious investigations on WTF is going on with US sanctioned rogue biological research.

In how many other places outside Ukraine and China is this going down?

Taiwan? Middle East? North Korea??

originally posted by: pheonix358

originally posted by: 1947boomer
a reply to: JAY1980
So what? There are bio labs in Russia. There are bio labs in most modern countries.

The Russians are talking about Bio Labs doing gain of function research, otherwise referred to as Biological Warfare Labs.

These are not the run of the mill Bio Labs in schools.

But then, you already know that.

Right on Russia's door step. How about putting half a dozen down in Mexico.

P

Given that America did in fact fund gain-of-function research on COVID -- and Fauci continues to lie about it because he himself had a stake in it -- I'm frankly inclined to believed the Russians on this. We probably do have other labs doing that sort of thing.

As other have said, imagine if Russia set up labs like this in Mexico. We'd be screaming to napalm those labs out of existence.

originally posted by: Nexttimemaybe
If true then they are probably researching or creating something that would be illegal to do in the US itself.

It the same reason the CIA sets up "black sites" in other countries: Because they can operate out of sight of US laws that prohibit the sort of thing they want to do.

a reply to: YouSir

And somehow kennedy assasinations make Russia trustworthy?

Whats your point besides defending russia at every turn?

originally posted by: CptGreenTea
a reply to: YouSir

And somehow kennedy assasinations make Russia trustworthy?

Whats your point besides defending russia at every turn?

Ummm…my point…?

Perhaps to illustrate how many of you in the greater unwashed…cling to a false narrative…fed to you by TPTB…

Your like little Abbot’s and Costello’s…all demanding…”whose on first”…running around bleating about those evil Russians that dare to do what the west has done for decades…

How dare they…

Why…invading sovereign countries…and decimating their infrastructure and populations…while replacing their governments…is the purview of the US…and it’s rag tag gaggle of European small and indentured states…

How dare Russia…


You do realize how ignominiously pedantic banging the drum of the western narrative is…right…?

Right…?


Grow the eff up…and begin the process of thinking for yourself…it’s embarrassing having to explain the obvious…



YouSir

a reply to: JAY1980

Thanks for posting this, but the knowledge of US bio labs in Georgia and Ukraine and elsewhere near Russian borders is fairly old news. That is, I've been aware of the one in Georgia for quite a few years, at least since the brief Georgian conflict some years back.

The US is no longer a force for good in this world, a sad situation.

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan

originally posted by: pheonix358

originally posted by: 1947boomer
a reply to: JAY1980
So what? There are bio labs in Russia. There are bio labs in most modern countries.

The Russians are talking about Bio Labs doing gain of function research, otherwise referred to as Biological Warfare Labs.

These are not the run of the mill Bio Labs in schools.

But then, you already know that.

Right on Russia's door step. How about putting half a dozen down in Mexico.

P

Given that America did in fact fund gain-of-function research on COVID -- and Fauci continues to lie about it because he himself had a stake in it -- I'm frankly inclined to believed the Russians on this. We probably do have other labs doing that sort of thing.

As other have said, imagine if Russia set up labs like this in Mexico. We'd be screaming to napalm those labs out of existence.

At the least, Wuhan, Fauci, and Ecohealth funding demonstrate these aren't impossible.

sounds like they exposed themselves, now i see why they manipulated American perception about vaccines through the pandemic, to set the stage for this, an ignorant population to sell lies to because they think they are experts because they looked up stuff about vaccines and viruses on the Internet.