Wait!!! Why don't we round up the VACCINATED?

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

the vaccinated are also the reason for variants. Science.

Just saying science at the end of a sentence doesn't make it true.

www.science.org...

Just posting a link that has the word “science” in the url doesn’t make it true.

Amazingly if you click on the link it tells you stuff.

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: ScepticScot

So you base the conversation off of the title, not the content? Wow, I need to rethink everything now. Who knew.

Possibly they are talking about the topic ( novel concept on ATS I know) and lifting individual sentences out and ignoring all context is a little disingenuous.

Considering this says VIRUSES, not bacteria as antibiotics are supposed to be effective at treating:

It’s a good idea to let milder illnesses (especially those thought to be caused by viruses) run their course

You may want to admit there was a clear & direct nod to viruses and how to approach them embedded within the main antibiotic & bacteria-related article.

That does not nullify that quote at all. Whether it is a cold rain, or a warm tropical rain, it is still rain. Put on a parka and just stop it.

It reiterating not to take antibiotics for viruses. Nothing about vaccines.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: ScepticScot
Vaccines aren't antibiotics which don't work on viruses anyway.

Ah, so the antibiotic theory is garbage.

Antibiotic resistance is real and completely irrelevant to this conversation because covid is a virus. Science.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

the vaccinated are also the reason for variants. Science.

Just saying science at the end of a sentence doesn't make it true.

www.science.org...

Just posting a link that has the word “science” in the url doesn’t make it true.

Amazingly if you click on the link it tells you stuff.

Yeah the author works for the major pharmaceutical companies, he has an agenda to keep up.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I think it is time we accept the fact that we have all been duped. We can't bend the spoon, because there is no spoon.

They played us. We got conned. Time to learn from our mistakes, instead of us continuing to keep pumping coins into a rigged machine, that only pays off often enough to keep us feeding the machine.

The game is over. Over 80% of the people have been injected with the vaccine. Over 60% have natural immunity. Nature lives on. Man will be chasing the the virus into eternity.

With the numbers of vaccinated, it is inevitable that they will be spreading the virus in greater numbers, because the vaccine does not stop the spread of the virus. We are playing a fools game. It is time that we stop being the fools.

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

the vaccinated are also the reason for variants. Science.

Just saying science at the end of a sentence doesn't make it true.

www.science.org...

Just posting a link that has the word “science” in the url doesn’t make it true.

Amazingly if you click on the link it tells you stuff.

Yeah the author works for the major pharmaceutical companies, he has an agenda to keep up.

Got any evidence what he is saying is incorrect?

originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

the vaccinated are also the reason for variants. Science.

Just saying science at the end of a sentence doesn't make it true.

www.science.org...

Just posting a link that has the word “science” in the url doesn’t make it true.

Of course. But try reading what is in it?

Then, if you disagree with its content, perhaps you could explain why?

originally posted by: Nyiah
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Seems a number of folks aren't getting the gist of your deliberate hyperbole.

Keep it up anyway, a filthy disease spreading pig is a filthy disease spreading pig -- you & I and everyone alive is one. Difference is, we aren't deluding ourselves & trying to come off as a superior organic walking Clean Room devoid of anything not human DNA.

BINGO!!

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

the vaccinated are also the reason for variants. Science.

Not at all. Viruses mutate on their own. Here is a good and easy to understand explanation why and how viruses mutate:


www.monkeygene.com...

Why this reaction???? What have the vaccinated done to anybody???? It's the PTB that are dictating either for vaccines or against anti-vaxers.
Let me give you this information (which you can look up yourselves) it has never, never been stated that the vaccine would stop anyone getting or transmitting the virus. In fact quite the opposite, it was stated that the vaccine would give some people a mild version of the virus and they would still be able to transmit the virus. BBUUUTTT, it would not be the killer bit.
Now before you jump on this let me give you figures to check. In the UK in near enough the same week, in 2020 27th November covid killed 3,405 people. In the week 2021 26th November covid killed 879 people. Now why do you think why was that? Do not think it was because people were vaccinated? Why. Why. And don't say natural immunity crap.
It's all about the DEATHS, NOT the infected. Would you come up with the same idea if there was a nationwide infection of the FLU? No you wouldn't.
So if you have had the vaccine or not that's your choice, only time will tell.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Apparently based on another post, its the complete opposite.. the numbers are inflated. So its definately a possibility!

no need to 'round them up' .... the vaccinated as already case studies... supposedly the serum maker and 'batch number' are identified for each patient

so a future research inquiry will reveal which serum , by which producer, was most effective in both the 'vaxxines' & the mandated 'boosters'

we, the test subjects will be buried under terabytes of data...which might very well become 'sealed by court order' till Y21 01

a reply to: crayzeed


What have the vaccinated done?


Avoided weighing the pros and cons of the vaccine, due to 'lack of evidence' which is still an issue. As more and more evidence has been brought forward by 'official' sources on the dangers of the vaccine.
Discredit anyone who didn't agree, even when it turned out they were correct. Forcing people to be afraid to speak out on what they saw.
Destroyed people's lives for not agreeing despite supportive evidence otherwise.

Demand unvaxed be put into camps, (US/UK)
Deny healthcare transplants to those unvaccinated, while harvesting organs of the unvaxed to put into the vaccinated. (US/UK)
Preach death for the unvaxed. (US)
Demand unvax be round up to the point of even signing false petitions to force the vaccine against the unvaxed will. (US- California specifically)
Tackle and force injections against unvaxed people while they scream 'no', even to the point of chasing people ontop of houses to do so..(Argentina & Mexico, China)
Assault with weapons, guns/knives/etc (China/Middle East)

Burn people alive who refused the vaccine. (China)
Poured chemicals on to 'sanitize' people (China)
Segregation of rights against those who do not have the vaccine. (everywhere)
Stolen jobs of the unvaxed by forced mandates. (everywhere)
Taken kids away from the unvaxed. (everywhere - Notably UK/US/AUSTRALIA)
Stolen parental rights from unvaxed parents. (Australia - US - UK)
Continuously deny the rights for a person to choose what gets put in their bodies. While ignoring the 'my body my choice' because they are unsatisfied with the false science being presented. (everywhere)
Name calling (everywhere)
Peer pressure (everywhere)
Financial RAPE- including freezing bank accounts (Canada, Africa, Israel)
Censorship (everywhere)
Treatment that is subpar and unfair, that makes prisoners of war treatment preferable in some countries. (everywhere)
Demand they choose the 'hill to die on' because they aren't satisfied with what 'uncle sam' and 'auntie pharma' claim. With proof to counter those claims. (US)

Treat them like they are idiots, stupid and uneducated. (everywhere)

Threaten their lives, (everywhere)
Threaten their families, (everywhere)
Threaten their offspring (everywhere)
Kidnap and force medical treatments against their children without consent. (Australia, China)
Threaten their housing, (everywhere)
Threaten their right for food. (everywhere)
Threaten their right to be treated like humans. (everywhere)

Threatened ALL forms of financial income, Stole Pensions/retirement and denied government services(some countries) SSI, SSD, FS included(versions for their countries, canada has a similar system.. and has actually threatened to deny services to unvaxed). - Canada - but considered everywhere

Deny the right to legally protect oneself against harm done to them under the vaccine mandates. (everywhere)

Invaded boundries and personal space, to even attacking unvaccinated at shopping centers. Even with small children present. (US/UK/Italy)

Continue to spread the virus thinking they are immune to transmission and catching said virus. Throwing out all reasons of common sense and hygene just because they are 'vaccinated'. (everywhere)
Demand medical records which are confidential and protected by law. (everywhere - although US has it as a law, not sure what other countries consider medical treatment protected)

Last but not least i'm willing to write.
Treat them like second class citizens, spitting on throwing food..etc.. all while denying equal rights with full "Official" support and hatred by the vaccinated.
(everywhere)

This list can go on and on against the crimes of the vaxed to the unvaxed.

(Fun poke to those who take this post personal)
Assume people are talking about them, taking things personal when your talking about generalized and proven treatment of one side towards the other. (Right here on ATS - everywhere) *Added just for fun - this one is more insecure human behavior then anything else* However, the need to 'justify' one's actions in the face of uncertainty seems to be more prevalent in the vaccinated then unvaxed. While this is not 100%, I see/hear more that vaccinated people tend to be a bit more bullheaded in their thought process - via lack of critical thinking and be more unwilling to listen to what others say. Even with evidence present, as long as its been told by 'a top official' who does zero ground work, or works in the field..
(End of poke)

(Now the counter)

What did the unvaxed do to the vaccinated?

Stay inside, (everywhere)
Take extra precautions, (everywhere)
Name calling, (everywhere)
Few jokes, (everywhere)
Asked to be left alone to their choice.(everywhere)
Live their life(Sweden)
Get discredited,(everywhere; Germany, US, and UK)
Warned of serious side effects, that was later proven to be correct. (everywhere)
Weighed pros and cons of the vaccine. (everywhere)

Try and defend their reason why they choose the 'hill they stand on' against waves of peer pressure, and inhumane treatments. (everywhere - except china)
Remove their names from the donor list - to fight back against healthcare's unfair and segregated treatment. (US)
Fight for their right to choose what goes into their body, aka protesting the mandates. (everywhere - except china)
Quit their jobs and complied out of force, while being replaced with FEMA UNVAXED EMPLOYEES. (US)
Agree'd to get the vaccine under duress, so they can feed their kids. (everywhere - Notably the US & Canada)
Kept their kids home (everywhere)

Acknowledge that they may lose their lives because they choose equal rights, and the ability to choose what is done to them. (everywhere - except china and israel - Notably Australia who fight and protest with no defense against ARMED guards/police)
Teach their kids that it is important to fight for what they believe in even when the odds are against them, when it appears there is no hope. Rather then peacefully board a train to a deathcamp. (everywhere - except china and israel)

Purposely avoided being near the vaccinated because they don't want you to feel uncomfortable. Aka honored your boundries. (everywhere)

Fake cough in your direction just to get you to give us back our space after dealing with you yelling, shoving and violating personal privacy/space for 10 minutes - despite not being ill.(everywhere)


Each country listed is only those I can confirm that has happened, this is why they are 'noted' as its a continue huge issue that gets worse with each passing day. So while more countries have probably done the following, I listed main ones I know of.

a reply to: YouSir

...
"Why not round up the politicians…and any corporate lapdog that pushes mandates”…

Then I could wholeheartedly get behind such an auspicious movement…

Well, don't forget; there's a whole lot of "other" people out there besides 'politicians and corporate lapdogs' who are advocating for the rounding up and/or restricting the rights of 'unvaccinated' peoples! In fact, they are the majority of people advocating these policies from what I can see.

Secondly, my OP was somewhat sarcastic, taking into account the hypocrisy of all the 'vaxxed' out there who now somehow believe they are bulletproof when it seems the exact opposite is true. They are the ones who seem more vulnerable than the 'unvaccinated'. Doesn't this give you pause? It sure does me!

originally posted by: BlackArrow
a reply to: crayzeed

What have the vaccinated done?

Demand unvaxed be put into camps,
Deny healthcare transplants to those unvaccinated, while harvesting organs of the unvaxed to put into the vaccinated.
Preach death for the unvaxed.
Demand unvax be round up to the point of even signing false petitions to force the vaccine against the unvaxed will.
Tackle and force injections against unvaxed people while they scream 'no', even to the point of chasing people ontop of houses to do so..

Burn people alive who refused the vaccine.
Segregation of rights against those who do not have the vaccine.
Stolen jobs of the unvaxed by forced mandates.

Continue to spread the virus thinking they are immune to transmission and catching said virus. Throwing out all reasons of common sense and hygene just because they are 'vaccinated'.

This list can go on and on against the crimes of the vaxed to the unvaxed. So I am just getting started.

My point precisely!!

originally posted by: Tulpa
a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I've got nothing against the vaxxed.

I'm for freedom of choice.

I completely agree. Too bad the vaxxed don't play by the same set of standards!!! So, until they do, all bets are off.

The ones who need rounding up are the makers, profiteers and enforcers of project covid.

Agreed again, but they needed rounded up long before covid.

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

I just felt like someone NEEDED to spell it out, just so those that decide to argue against it can actually see what they have inflicted on others.

Added quite a bit of the counter. Honestly its interesting to see the difference in a side by side. Its kinda sad really..

a reply to: Flyingclaydisk

Do you have empty corrals?

My biggest problem is the ignoring of my natural immunity, my Daughter had it bad for weeks and we are fine and healthy why should we be abused, we don't have it or spread it!

a reply to: BlackArrow
NO, you're coming out with the MSM narrative of what they think vaxed people say. It's total BS. I have yet to hear anyone (that's any one sane not a random nutjob) who's been vaxed and that includes me, I have not heard anyone saying anything about people who have not been vaccinated. The only thing I hear, which I agree with, is it's their choice. They have to live or die by it.
As I said before it's the PTB not the people.

originally posted by: surfer_soul
a reply to: ScepticScot

The first time I ever had the flu as a kid my mum called out the doctor who gave me a prescription of antibiotics to take. Why would that be? Were they just meant to be a placebo?

No, they just do that for people who go to t he doctor at the drop of a sniffle, because those kinds of people expect the doctor to 'do something'...